Random reading

fabibh Posted messages 17 Status Member -  
jeanbern Posted messages 13740 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   -
Hello,

I am transferring MP3 files (audiobook) onto a USB stick for a visually impaired person. The chapters are renamed 1, 2, 3 to make it easier for them to switch files. However, when I plug the USB stick into the radio/CD/MP3/USB player (DCYBEL BOOM POWER), track 1 plays chapter 33 and does not start at chapter 1.

I’m not sure if I was clear. Thank you for helping me as this is the only way they can still "read".

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STARGATE43 Posted messages 13754 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   2 648
 
Good evening,

You write:
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The chapters are renamed 1, 2, 3...
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I assume you are talking about music files?

If that's the case, since there are more than 10 files, you should number them starting from 01 if there are less than 100 or 001 if there are less than 1000.

Unfortunately, players do not differentiate between units, tens, and hundreds.

If you start the numbering from 1, the player will go from 1 to 10, continue up to 19, then jump to 2, 20, 21, etc...

You also need to check if the player is not set to "Shuffle play".

Best regards ;-)

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fabibh Posted messages 17 Status Member
 
Thank you for your response. I had thought of that and I redid it in 01,02, the result is the same. The files are chapters of a book read and recorded in MP3.
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jeanbern Posted messages 13740 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   5 136
 
Hello,
it also happens to me on my car radio.
Even when numbering them, they are distributed randomly and in a way that we don't want.
It's a subject I ultimately didn't try to resolve but just learned to live with.
I don't know the cause.
Sorry!!

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STARGATE43 Posted messages 13754 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   2 648
 
Re,

There may still be another alternative, which would be to place a letter of the alphabet in front of the numbers, for example: A01, A02, etc. Without numbering, the files are sorted in alphabetical order, so why not try adding a letter in front of the numbers, you never know ;-)

And also, as mentioned in my previous response, check if a random playback mode may be activated on this car radio; this should be indicated in the user manual.

Best regards ;-)

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jeanbern Posted messages 13740 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   5 136
 
Hi Stagarte,
I believe that like me, I have a retractable screen, so quite big enough to see all the tracks waiting in the list while scrolling down.
Let me explain: I load my tracks onto my USB stick:
track 01 or a1
track 02 or a2 etc. etc..

And I plug my stick into the car radio and I find myself with first:
track 089 or A89 (no matter the name)
track 072.....
track 06
track 041

which means that the order respected and therefore desired on the stick is not respected in this order on the car radio (random playback disabled of course).
I also noticed this on certain burning software like Nero that disorganizes the order we want (this is also true with films not organized in a logical alphabetical chronology)
and also on some home theater players, sometimes you have to search for the movie you had put first which, ultimately, ends up in the middle of the list)
This from the starting menu of your list.
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STARGATE43 Posted messages 13754 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   2 648 > jeanbern Posted messages 13740 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
 
Well, that's the last straw! So, if you extract songs from an audio CD onto a USB stick with the CD's numbering, nothing guarantees that those songs will be played in the same order as on the CD?

I think it would be a minimum for manufacturers to integrate this feature for the ease of listening for their customers!

I am quite surprised by this because having different devices from different brands, I do not encounter this random playback issue, both with movies and music files.

My Sony KDL-40BX400 TV plays the files in the order I assigned them, whether by numbering or alphabetically, the same goes for my old Sony DAV-DZ280 home theater system, the same for my current Sony BDV-N7100 home theater system, the same for my Xbox 360 console, the same for my Iomega ScreenPlay Director 1TB media player, and the same for my Sony BDP-S5500 Blu-ray player. You see, when it comes to playing video and audio files, there’s plenty to go on! ;-)

Of course, if I play files with mixed naming, the numbered files take priority over the unnumbered files, but the unnumbered ones follow an alphabetical order (movie title or song title).

Just like on a PC, the display order on my PC first lists the numbered files (01, 02, 03, etc.), and then the unnumbered files are sorted alphabetically.

And I am surprised that you are also facing this type of disorder with your car radio, but it must be solvable! ;-)

I will keep looking a bit to see if there is a trick! ;-)
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jeanbern Posted messages 13740 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   5 136 > STARGATE43 Posted messages 13754 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
 
Yes
We can't really talk about random reading but rather random sorting and therefore yes, consequently random reading.
For the PC, indeed everything is sorted chronologically and alphabetically, that's fine
As for me, it doesn't bother me anymore, I'm used to it. I assure you all my readers and other audio and video elements do not behave like my car radio in particular (Néom AR 7011 USB)
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STARGATE43 Posted messages 13754 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   2 648 > jeanbern Posted messages 13740 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
 
Yeah, and this kind of inconvenience doesn’t just apply to car radios, portable radios like fabibh’s have the same attitude. To be honest, for €49.90 you can’t expect high-end hi-fi equipment ;-)

http://www.darty.com/nav/achat/audio_mp3_mp4/radio/radio_radio_k7-cd/dcybel_boom_power.html

I also had a Scott car radio with a 7" color screen and a USB port, and I didn’t have those problems either; the music tracks displayed in the order I had assigned them on the USB stick, and the video files displayed either by the assigned numbering or in alphabetical order.

To wrap up this story, I think I won't look anymore, seeing what type of device it is, and without disparaging it, I believe the visually impaired person for whom these MP3 files are intended will have to make do.

With that, I wish you a good evening and look forward to seeing you again ;-)
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jeanbern Posted messages 13740 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   5 136 > STARGATE43 Posted messages 13754 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
 
Don't mess with me, mine was one of the first retractable car radio screens like Neom -Alpine (about 500 €), I still have it in my car.
Well, on that note, I'm going to bed.
Tomorrow, work in my fields.
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STARGATE43 Posted messages 13754 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   2 648
 
Re,

I've been thinking about this problem of random playback imposed by the device...

I have another suggestion:

I assume the MP3 files are placed directly on the USB drive, so not in a folder?

It will be a bit cumbersome, but why not try the following:

On the USB drive, create a folder named 01, in this folder, put the MP3 file No. 01, then create a folder named 02 and put the MP3 file No. 02 in it, and so on...

This means that for each MP3 file there will be a folder.

Maybe the device will take into account the order of the folders, if there are, for example, 33 MP3 files, then it will be necessary to create 33 folders, each containing one MP3 file. I know it's quite a bit of manipulation, but if it could help fabibh and his father-in-law...

I don't see anything else that could counter the random playback of the player.

Regards ;-)

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fabibh Posted messages 17 Status Member
 
Thank you very much for your interest and your patience. I am far from home. I will try your suggestion when I return.
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STARGATE43 Posted messages 13754 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   2 648 > fabibh Posted messages 17 Status Member
 
But not at all, with pleasure ;-)

If it could work, it would relieve more than one ;-)
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jeanbern Posted messages 13740 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   5 136
 
Hi,
it can definitely work.
However, driving poses a danger.
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STARGATE43 Posted messages 13754 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   2 648 > jeanbern Posted messages 13740 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
 
Don't you think the car radio would move on to the next track by itself like it does with MP3 files???

But in this case, for fabibh's father-in-law, it's a portable radio and I hope it'll work, otherwise I'm out of ideas ;-)
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jeanbern Posted messages 13740 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   5 136 > STARGATE43 Posted messages 13754 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
 
I need to try to make some folders, until now I was avoiding it!
I'll let you know
For him, let's hope it works.
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