Endless spinning wheel laptop
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GaetanEtSesVis
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Hello,
I'm writing to you because I'm out of ideas...
I want to disassemble my laptop to add some RAM, but I have 2 screws that are giving me trouble...
The 2 screws at the back are fine, the screwdriver grips well, but when I try to unscrew, the screw never comes out. It just turns endlessly without ever coming loose, and even more strangely, it also turns endlessly when tightening, there's never a stop. It's as if the part holding the screw on the other side is turning with the screw.
I've tried everything.
Vacuum cleaner, pliers, flat screwdriver to get under the head, I even tried to thread dental floss under the head to pull it, but nothing...
Do you have any idea how to get this damn screw out, please?
Thank you very much!
I'm writing to you because I'm out of ideas...
I want to disassemble my laptop to add some RAM, but I have 2 screws that are giving me trouble...
The 2 screws at the back are fine, the screwdriver grips well, but when I try to unscrew, the screw never comes out. It just turns endlessly without ever coming loose, and even more strangely, it also turns endlessly when tightening, there's never a stop. It's as if the part holding the screw on the other side is turning with the screw.
I've tried everything.
Vacuum cleaner, pliers, flat screwdriver to get under the head, I even tried to thread dental floss under the head to pull it, but nothing...
Do you have any idea how to get this damn screw out, please?
Thank you very much!
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Hi
maybe...
look at this image:
http://matkom.free.fr/pcgui/vis1.png
the screws (black) are screwed into a metal insert (gold on the image) which is fixed in the casing.
the plastic part that holds the inserts is probably broken, so the insert is turning in the hole.
Try unscrewing by tilting the screw, which should clamp the insert and maybe loosen the screw.
Otherwise, you don't have many options, you'll have to brute force the cover.
:-)
maybe...
look at this image:
http://matkom.free.fr/pcgui/vis1.png
the screws (black) are screwed into a metal insert (gold on the image) which is fixed in the casing.
the plastic part that holds the inserts is probably broken, so the insert is turning in the hole.
Try unscrewing by tilting the screw, which should clamp the insert and maybe loosen the screw.
Otherwise, you don't have many options, you'll have to brute force the cover.
:-)
Hello astuces72,
Your comment is very relevant, but if the insert taken from the plastic carcass mold turns with the screw, I suppose the cover can still be lifted and removed, right?
Maybe it needs a little forcing, as mentioned in response #3.
Perhaps there is also another undetected screw that hasn't been removed!
Best regards.
Your comment is very relevant, but if the insert taken from the plastic carcass mold turns with the screw, I suppose the cover can still be lifted and removed, right?
Maybe it needs a little forcing, as mentioned in response #3.
Perhaps there is also another undetected screw that hasn't been removed!
Best regards.
Good evening,
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Best regards.
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If you would like answers to your question, please note the exact references of your laptop and paste them in your next message.
It’s possible that a member could intervene afterwards, for example!
Best regards.
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The one who doesn't please upon arriving, always pleases upon leaving!
Breizh a tao
Thank you for the image. I see the issue pretty well.
I will try this tonight when I get home from work and keep you posted.
Thanks again for your help.
I will try this tonight when I get home from work and keep you posted.
Thanks again for your help.
Yes, I'm surprised too.
The 2 screws don't quite have the same resistance. One turns really easily, it almost feels like nothing is holding it in place, but the other resists a little more (barely more, you can just feel that you need to slightly (but I mean very slightly) push a bit harder), but in the end, it's the same, the screw never comes out and there's no stop when screwing it in.
I hope I'll be able to get them out, otherwise my RAM stick will be useless and I still won't be able to play "demanding" games :/
Thanks again.
The 2 screws don't quite have the same resistance. One turns really easily, it almost feels like nothing is holding it in place, but the other resists a little more (barely more, you can just feel that you need to slightly (but I mean very slightly) push a bit harder), but in the end, it's the same, the screw never comes out and there's no stop when screwing it in.
I hope I'll be able to get them out, otherwise my RAM stick will be useless and I still won't be able to play "demanding" games :/
Thanks again.
Yes for the photos, it can indeed help to understand, but try as much as possible to take close-ups, maybe!
As for the screws, there's always a way to remove them, the main thing is to know how they are mounted and what they are for.
Then, a small Dremel equipped with a Ø 2 to 2.5 drill bit, a vacuum nearby, and you're all set. (already done)
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As for the screws, there's always a way to remove them, the main thing is to know how they are mounted and what they are for.
Then, a small Dremel equipped with a Ø 2 to 2.5 drill bit, a vacuum nearby, and you're all set. (already done)
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Hi,
I tried "twisting" the screw, but nothing works; the broken part doesn't catch anywhere.
I also tried pulling the hood, but it won't budge. If I force it more, I will tear everything apart.
Here are the photos:
View of the 2 screws that are blocking: http://hpics.li/89f1e3e
Closer view of one screw: http://hpics.li/3aa7cfc
I don't know what else to do...
If we could avoid anything like drilling, etc., because I'm far from being a delicate guy, and I'm afraid of breaking something...
Thank you,
I tried "twisting" the screw, but nothing works; the broken part doesn't catch anywhere.
I also tried pulling the hood, but it won't budge. If I force it more, I will tear everything apart.
Here are the photos:
View of the 2 screws that are blocking: http://hpics.li/89f1e3e
Closer view of one screw: http://hpics.li/3aa7cfc
I don't know what else to do...
If we could avoid anything like drilling, etc., because I'm far from being a delicate guy, and I'm afraid of breaking something...
Thank you,
Well, there's nothing to be done...
Nothing is working, I'm losing my patience here...
Do you think the drill will definitely solve my problem? If I manage to break the screw head, won't the rod block me?
I have to open this damn PC. No matter the cost. But still, it was worth 1000 euros when I bought it... I don't want to mess it up :/
Nothing is working, I'm losing my patience here...
Do you think the drill will definitely solve my problem? If I manage to break the screw head, won't the rod block me?
I have to open this damn PC. No matter the cost. But still, it was worth 1000 euros when I bought it... I don't want to mess it up :/
Excellent point about the drill! I hadn't thought of that...
No, even with the casing slid, the insert doesn’t lock in place.
I think I’m going to go for breaking the plastic that holds the screw.
I’m scared x)
I’ll think about how to do it without damaging the casing too much, and I’ll keep you posted.
Thank you very much!
No, even with the casing slid, the insert doesn’t lock in place.
I think I’m going to go for breaking the plastic that holds the screw.
I’m scared x)
I’ll think about how to do it without damaging the casing too much, and I’ll keep you posted.
Thank you very much!
Indeed, it will turn with the forest, but after putting a small drop of this product 
between the screw head and the plastic, a cotton swab to remove the excess, plus a few seconds of waiting, you will be able to go for it without any problem and it won't be ready to turn! (already done)
It's up to you now, you're the boss!
That said, I still don't quite understand why these screws react this way, unless this PC has suffered a big shock; this would explain it. I wonder, after checking the pictures, if these screws are original to this PC.
Best regards.
The one who doesn't bring joy when arriving, ALWAYS brings joy when leaving!
Breizh a tao
between the screw head and the plastic, a cotton swab to remove the excess, plus a few seconds of waiting, you will be able to go for it without any problem and it won't be ready to turn! (already done)
It's up to you now, you're the boss!
That said, I still don't quite understand why these screws react this way, unless this PC has suffered a big shock; this would explain it. I wonder, after checking the pictures, if these screws are original to this PC.
Best regards.
The one who doesn't bring joy when arriving, ALWAYS brings joy when leaving!
Breizh a tao
I definitely wouldn't drill a screw for fear of getting metal filings inside.
Why tackle the hardest part when just making a slot in the plastic would suffice?
Since it's on the hinge side, and that's a weak point on many laptops, I'm not too surprised; the next screws to break will be the ones on the hinges.
Where are you from, Gaëtan? I'm from Sarthe.
Why tackle the hardest part when just making a slot in the plastic would suffice?
Since it's on the hinge side, and that's a weak point on many laptops, I'm not too surprised; the next screws to break will be the ones on the hinges.
Where are you from, Gaëtan? I'm from Sarthe.
@astuces72, hello,
Iron filings, shavings, whatever you want, you're not going to use kilograms of it, and the vacuum cleaner mentioned earlier is part of the process and further limits dispersion.
Making a slit in the plastic isn't a bad idea, but when it comes to reassembling with new screws, how are you going to secure that cover if you break the head's hold?
This is my last contribution on this topic, good luck for the future GaetanEtSesVis, whatever you plan to do, I wish you success.
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Iron filings, shavings, whatever you want, you're not going to use kilograms of it, and the vacuum cleaner mentioned earlier is part of the process and further limits dispersion.
Making a slit in the plastic isn't a bad idea, but when it comes to reassembling with new screws, how are you going to secure that cover if you break the head's hold?
This is my last contribution on this topic, good luck for the future GaetanEtSesVis, whatever you plan to do, I wish you success.
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Hello to you.
I am from Toulouse. But I'm going to try to break the plastic around the screw head.
If that doesn’t work, I will drill the plastic by making a hole next to the screw to try to slip something in to block the insert.
And if that still doesn’t work, I’ll try the hinge method.
And as a last resort, the solution with glue and drilling the screw.
With all this, I should be able to manage.
Thank you for all these ideas and for the time you’ve given me.
I am from Toulouse. But I'm going to try to break the plastic around the screw head.
If that doesn’t work, I will drill the plastic by making a hole next to the screw to try to slip something in to block the insert.
And if that still doesn’t work, I’ll try the hinge method.
And as a last resort, the solution with glue and drilling the screw.
With all this, I should be able to manage.
Thank you for all these ideas and for the time you’ve given me.
Victory!!!
I finally managed to dig the screw holes enough to pull the cover a bit and lift it out.
I took a picture of the result:
The open PC: http://hpics.li/265e3b3
The damage: http://hpics.li/d96b977
Thank you again for your help!
Have a great rest of the day.
Best regards,
I finally managed to dig the screw holes enough to pull the cover a bit and lift it out.
I took a picture of the result:
The open PC: http://hpics.li/265e3b3
The damage: http://hpics.li/d96b977
Thank you again for your help!
Have a great rest of the day.
Best regards,
I had specified that this would be my last comment in the penultimate post, but just a remark regarding the images: not only adding RAM, but a good cleaning of the fan and the hot air exhaust vents would do the PC a lot of good as well; that was just a side note!!!
And ultimately, what’s the deal with these famous screws?
Oh my country, oh Toulouse... greetings to Claude.
See you later!
And ultimately, what’s the deal with these famous screws?
Oh my country, oh Toulouse... greetings to Claude.
See you later!
Yes, I will also take the opportunity to do a good cleaning ;)
I still don't know what those screws are for. They are still in place and stuck under another layer of plastic. But they are no longer preventing me from removing the cover and adding the RAM, so I'm not going to look into what they are for; the PC has suffered enough like this ^^
See you later and thanks again
I still don't know what those screws are for. They are still in place and stuck under another layer of plastic. But they are no longer preventing me from removing the cover and adding the RAM, so I'm not going to look into what they are for; the PC has suffered enough like this ^^
See you later and thanks again
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Cya and you're welcome.
Cya and you're welcome.
Yes, I tried, and it's blocking.
When I see the guy remove it effortlessly and I see the resistance on my PC, I think it's not normal. He manages it too easily compared to me.
But I will try again tonight just to be sure.
Thank you for the time you are giving me.