Motherboard and graphics card compatibility

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arion320 Posted messages 219 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   -  
arion320 Posted messages 219 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   -
Hello,

I would like to know if an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 790 would be compatible with a eMachines EL1352 motherboard. I've been searching the internet for the specifications of the motherboard to see what it supports, but I can only find complete and assembled PCs.

Thank you in advance!

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  1. marcmarais Posted messages 24260 Status Moderator 4 568
     
    Hello,
    according to the information I found online, the eMachines EL1352 is an entry-level PC from 2010, equipped with an Athlon II X2 215:
    https://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00103305.html
    with this very weak CPU today, I discourage you from installing a GTX 790, even if it fits in this mini PC and if the power supply is compatible...
    I suggest not to go beyond a GTX 750, if your motherboard indeed has a PCI-Express x16 slot

    EDIT:
    here is a photo of the inside of your PC that I found by searching EL 1352:
    http://bbsimg02.kakaku.k-img.com/images/bbs/000/637/637216_m.jpg
    is this your PC?
    if so, there is indeed a PCI-Express x16 slot (the black slot at the top), but you definitely need a Low Profile GPU (narrow PC)
    and be careful about its length, otherwise it will hit the drives on the left...
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    1. arion320 Posted messages 219 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   22
       
      Hello,

      Thank you very much for your response. My current PC doesn't look like that but it's definitely this motherboard since it's a refurbished one.

      Here is my configuration:

      --------[ AIDA64 Engineer ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      Version AIDA64 v4.20.2800/en
      Test module 4.1.611-x64
      Website https://www.aida64.com/
      Report type Report generator
      Computer SIMON
      Generator Simon
      Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional 6.3.9600.17328 (Win8.1 RTM)
      Date 2015-02-05
      Time 16:27


      --------[ Summary ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      Computer:
      System type PC ACPI with x64 processor
      Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional
      System Service Pack -
      Internet Explorer 11.0.9600.17498
      DirectX DirectX 11.0
      System name SIMON
      User name Simon
      Login domain SIMON
      Date / Time 2015-02-05 / 16:27

      Motherboard:
      Processor type AMD Athlon II 170u, 2000 MHz (10 x 200)
      Motherboard name eMachines EL1352
      Motherboard chipset nVIDIA nForce 6100-4xx, AMD K10
      System memory 4096 Mo (DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM)
      DIMM1: Kingston 9905403-078.A00LF 2 Go DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM (9-9-9-24 @ 666 MHz) (8-8-8-22 @ 609 MHz) (7-7-7-20 @ 533 MHz) (6-6-6-17 @ 457 MHz)
      DIMM2: Kingston 9905403-078.A00LF 2 Go DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM (9-9-9-24 @ 666 MHz) (8-8-8-22 @ 609 MHz) (7-7-7-20 @ 533 MHz) (6-6-6-17 @ 457 MHz)
      BIOS type AMI (11/04/11)

      Monitor:
      Video card ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM v1.1) (256 Mo)
      Video card ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM v1.1) (256 Mo)
      3D accelerator ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro (RV610)
      Monitor HP 2009 (Analog) [20" LCD] (CNC94207X9)

      Multimedia:
      Audio card ATI Radeon HDMI @ ATI Radeon HD 2400 - High Definition Audio Controller
      Audio card Realtek ALC662 @ nVIDIA nForce 6100-400/405/420/430 (MCP61) - High Definition Audio Controller

      Storage:
      Storage controller NVIDIA nForce series ATA Controller
      Storage controller NVIDIA nForce series ATA Controller
      Storage controller Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller
      Storage controller DAEMON Tools Virtual SCSI Bus
      Hard drive Generic USB CF Reader USB Device
      Hard drive Generic USB MS Reader USB Device
      Hard drive Generic USB SD Reader USB Device
      Hard drive Generic USB SM Reader USB Device
      Hard drive Hitachi HTS545025B9A SCSI Disk Device (232 Go)
      Hard drive Maxtor 4 R080L0 USB Device (80 Go, 5400 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
      Optical drive DiscSoft Virtual SCSI CdRom Device
      HDD status SMART OK

      Partitions:
      C: (NTFS) 116.4 Go (21.3 Go free)
      D: (NTFS) 116.1 Go (37.1 Go free)
      H: (NTFS) 399 Mo (173 Mo free)
      Total size 232.9 Go (58.6 Go free)

      Input:
      Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard
      Keyboard PIH Keyboard Device
      Mouse Cyborg M.M.O.7 Gaming Mouse (HID)
      Mouse HID Mouse

      Network:
      Main IP address 192.168.1.95
      Main MAC address 00-26-2D-40-D1-CA
      Network card NVIDIA nForce Network Controller (192.168.1.95)

      Devices:
      Printer Send to OneNote 2013
      Printer Fax
      Printer HP Officejet 4500 G510g-m fax
      Printer HP Officejet 4500 G510g-m
      Printer Microsoft XPS Document Writer
      USB Controller nVIDIA nForce 6100-400/405/420/430 (MCP61) - OHCI USB 1.1 Controller
      USB Controller nVIDIA nForce 6100-400/405/420/430 (MCP61) - EHCI USB 2.0 Controller
      USB Device Cyborg M.M.O.7 Gaming Mouse (USB)
      USB Device USB Mass Storage Device
      USB Device USB Mass Storage Device
      USB Device HP Basic Starter Camera

      DMI:
      BIOS vendor American Megatrends Inc.
      BIOS version P01-B4
      System manufacturer eMachines
      System name EL1352
      System version
      System serial number PTNBTE209303404B432700
      System UUID 00262D40-D1CA2010-08241252-39000000
      Motherboard manufacturer eMachines
      Motherboard name Veriton V2110
      Motherboard version
      Motherboard serial number
      Chassis manufacturer eMachines
      Chassis version
      Chassis serial number
      Chassis identifier
      Chassis type Desktop Case


      --------[ System Name ]----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      Comment associated with computer Logic
      NetBIOS name Logic SIMON
      DNS hostname Logic Simon
      DNS domain Logic
      Full DNS name Logic Simon
      NetBIOS name Physical SIMON
      DNS hostname Physical Simon
      DNS domain Physical
      Full DNS name Physical Simon


      --------[ DMI ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      [ BIOS ]

      BIOS Properties:
      Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
      Version P01-B4
      Release date 11/04/2011
      Size 1 Mo
      System BIOS version 8.15
      Boot devices Floppy Disk, Hard Disk, CD-ROM, ATAPI ZIP, LS-120
      Available functions Flash BIOS, Shadow BIOS, Selectable Boot, EDD, BBS
      Standards adhered to DMI, APM, ACPI, ESCD, PnP
      Expansion capabilities ISA, PCI, USB
      Virtual Machine No

      BIOS Manufacturer:
      Company name American Megatrends Inc.
      Product information https://ami.com/en/products/bios-uefi-firmware/
      BIOS updates http://www.aida64.com/bios-updates

      [ System ]

      System Properties:
      Manufacturer eMachines
      Product EL1352
      Serial number PTNBTE209303404B432700
      SKU# To Be Filled By O.E.M.
      Family eMachines Desktop
      Universal unique identifier 00262D40-D1CA2010-08241252-39000000
      Boot type Power button

      [ Motherboard ]

      Motherboard Properties:
      Manufacturer eMachines
      Product Veriton V2110

      [ Chassis ]

      Chassis Properties:
      Manufacturer eMachines
      Chassis type Standard Case
      Startup status Safe
      Power status Safe
      Temperature conditions Safe
      Security conditions None

      [ Processors / AMD Athlon(tm) II 170u Processor ]

      Processor Properties:
      Manufacturer AMD
      Version AMD Athlon(tm) II 170u Processor
      Serial number To Be Filled By O.E.M.
      Label To Be Filled By O.E.M.
      Component type number To Be Filled By O.E.M.
      External clock 200 MHz
      Maximum clock speed 2000 MHz
      Current clock speed 2000 MHz
      Type Central Processor
      Voltage 1.5 V
      Status Enabled
      CPU socket identifier 1
      HTT / CMP units 1 / 1
      Available functions 64-bit

      Processor Manufacturer:
      Company name Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
      Product information http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors
      Driver update http://www.aida64.com/driver-updates

      [ Caches / L1-Cache ]

      Cache Properties:
      Type Internal
      Status Enabled
      Operating mode Varies with Memory Address
      Associativity 4-way Set-Associative
      Maximum size 128 Ko
      Installed size 128 Ko
      Type of managed SRAM Pipeline Burst
      Current SRAM type Pipeline Burst
      Error correction Single-bit ECC
      Cache socket identifier L1-Cache

      [ Caches / L2-Cache ]

      Cache Properties:
      Type Internal
      Status Enabled
      Operating mode Varies with Memory Address
      Associativity 4-way Set-Associative
      Maximum size 1024 Ko
      Installed size 1024 Ko
      Type of managed SRAM Pipeline Burst
      Current SRAM type Pipeline Burst
      Error correction Single-bit ECC
      Cache socket identifier L2-Cache

      [ Caches / L3-Cache ]

      Cache Properties:
      Type Internal
      Status Disabled
      Maximum size 0 Ko
      Installed size 0 Ko
      Cache socket identifier L3-Cache

      [ Memory Matrix / System Memory ]

      Memory Matrix Properties:
      Motherboard Slot
      Memory network function System Memory
      Error correction None
      Max. memory capacity 8 Go
      Memory devices 2

      [ Memory Devices / DIMM0 ]

      Memory Device Properties:
      Form DIMM
      Type DDR3
      Detailed type Synchronous
      Size 2 Go
      Max. clock speed 1066 MHz
      Total size 64 bits
      Data width 64 bits
      Device location DIMM0
      Bank number Bank0
      Manufacturer Kingston
      Serial number A5BD264E
      Component type number 9905403-078.A00LF

      [ Memory Devices / DIMM1 ]

      Memory Device Properties:
      Form DIMM
      Type DDR3
      Detailed type Synchronous
      Size 2 Go
      Max. clock speed 1066 MHz
      Total size 64 bits
      Data width 64 bits
      Device location DIMM1
      Bank number Bank1
      Manufacturer Kingston
      Serial number AE142689
      Component type number 9905403-078.A00LF

      [ System Slots / PCIE ]

      System Slot Properties:
      Slot PCIE identifier
      Type PCI-E x16
      Usage Used
      Data bus width x16
      Length Long

      [ System Slots / PCIE ]

      System Slot Properties:
      Slot PCIE identifier
      Type PCI-E x1
      Usage Empty
      Data bus width x1
      Length Short

      [ Integrated Devices / Onboard Nvidia Graphics ]

      Integrated Device Properties:
      Description Onboard Nvidia Graphics
      Type Video
      Status Disabled

      [ Integrated Devices / Ethernet Controller ]

      Integrated Device Properties:
      Description Ethernet Controller
      Type Ethernet
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    2. arion320 Posted messages 219 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   22
       
      But my processor seems to be the same.

      What effect would it have if it wasn't powerful enough?

      Thank you in advance.
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    3. marcmarais Posted messages 24260 Status Moderator 4 568
       
      Well, your PC is a bit different from the one I found:

      CPU:
      Athlon II 170u
      GPU:
      HD 2400 PRO

      This CPU is really weak these days, sorry to be blunt.
      We often classify CPUs with pre-calibrated tests, called "benchs" in English, and one that's widely used for CPUs is PassMark.
      Of course, this doesn't account for all the possibilities of CPUs based on applications, but it gives a pretty good idea.
      Look at the PassMark score of your CPU:
      https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Athlon+II+170u&id=113
      600, while an i3 scores 4800/5000 and an i5 scores 6000/7000...

      I'd rather tell you the truth so that you don't invest in a new GPU; it won't be of much use with a weak CPU. Even a GTX 750 will be CPU limited (read the link).

      It's much better in your case to invest in an upgrade kit. If you have a standard-sized case and a decent power supply (a good brand and at least 400W), you can find CPU + motherboard + DDR3 RAM kits starting at €150.
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    4. arion320 Posted messages 219 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   22
       
      Thank you very much, I understand better the performance of CPUs. I thought we could know the performance by looking at the megahertz and the cores. I didn't know about "PassMark."

      Well, let me tell you why I was asking this question.

      Actually, for my birthday and Christmas (January 4), I bought a computer that cost a total of €750, but in the end, it still doesn't work. At one point, I was told it was the motherboard, and at another time, I was told it was my processor. I had to send back the motherboard, the problem persisted, and now my i5 is supposed to be sent back to me....

      I still wanted to try to get a bit more gaming out of my new graphics card, but oh well, too bad then. ^^

      Here is my configuration: https://www.topachat.com/pages/configomatic.php?c=v1kir2T%2BRneDtyVTsUSDzh7x%2BijanoWKEl%2BuJYzrJ5g%3D

      Thank you anyway, have a good evening!
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  2. Synerz Posted messages 1341 Status Member 116
     
    Hello,

    I mostly think that "eMachines EL1352" is the name of a tower model from Dell. A GTX 790 is relatively "large" in size, so first, do you have a small/medium/large tower? You also need a power supply around 500 WATT, so is yours powerful enough?

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    1. arion320 Posted messages 219 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   22
       
      Currently, I have a maximum of 288W, but I have a 500W case and another one of 550W.
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