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To talk about my case, I've been a programmer since 2001 and I knew nothing! I had dropped out of school since 1997.
All that to say that if you can think even a little, you should be able to make it ;-)
I think you should start reading books on C, C++, or Java; some books come with compilers, with which you can do exercises.
You can also find online courses.
For a start, you can take "Programming in C++" by Delanoy; at Eyrolles, you have plenty of good titles.
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Personally, I'm also very comfortable in front of a computer, but with programming, I'm a bit lost.
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Hello
I'm starting my last year of training at CNAM in the civil engineering chair to become an engineer.
Regarding the level of training in the civil engineering chair, it is of high quality (same teaching and program as in major BTP schools) and recognized. I don't know if the same applies to the computer science chair. For diplomas, you need to have a certain number of UE (units of study) and it's à la carte.
You can take as many as you want at your own pace; there are two types of UE, those in evening classes and those in FOD (distance learning via the internet). You receive your courses and exercises online, and you submit your assignments online through a web platform (Pleiad). Regarding the recognition of CNAM diplomas, I know companies that mainly hire CNAM graduates for reasons of maturity and professional experience + the certification for the employer of being in the presence of someone highly motivated.
That's where it gets a bit tricky; you really need to be motivated to succeed. I have taken UEs where we started with 70 in the first class to end up with 20 at the end. It's true that we tend to find ourselves alone facing our problems; the best solution is to be autonomous or to get help from other auditors who can explain things to you. Personally, I prefer FOD courses; being very autonomous, I always find books or online courses that allow me to have another approach when I'm having difficulties, plus there’s no time constraint—you can work whenever you want without having to attend evening classes in the winter months from 7:00 PM to 9:30 PM after coming home from work. Generally speaking, CNAM graduates always manage to sell themselves, more or less well depending on their personalities, of course. I can only encourage you to follow this training, but make sure to look at how much time it will cost you, whether it’s compatible with your family life and everything else. Many start training they don’t finish.
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Hi, I would like some information about the civil engineering training at CNAM that I am considering in Lyon:
- Is it well recognized in the job market and are the courses good?
- Does it prepare for the structural engineer profession?
- Coming from a professional license and a DUT in civil engineering, do you think it's feasible?
- What salary can one expect?
- If I do all the evening courses during the week, how many years will it take?
Thank you for your answers!
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Hello,
I have a vocational baccalaureate in pricing studies, and I plan to enroll at CNAM and aim for a degree in building engineering.
Can you tell me how much time it takes to work on a 60-credit module? And how many modules can one take per semester?
Based on your experience, how long do you think it will take me?
Thank you in advance.
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I am a student at CNAM in Aix in the Chair of Engineering in Construction and Urban Planning, Building Option. In short, I will try to give my opinion on the various questions raised:
- If you work full-time, never take more than two ECTS credits per semester! It's precisely those who take more who generally abandon quickly. It is indeed true that you often find yourself overwhelmed at the beginning of a course only to end up very few at the end. For example, in mathematics (MVA 005 and 006), we started with 23 and ended up with 4.
- Objectively, 1 hour of class corresponds to "at least 1 hour of work at home and even 2 hours for certain subjects.
- For those starting from the beginning (high school level), expect an average of 10 years. Those starting with a BTS, DUT, or even a bachelor's degree can expect about 5 years.
- Regarding the level, it is quite comparable to other schools. About half of the professors at CNAM in Aix also teach at ENSAM ParisTech in Aix and Polytech Université in Marseille.
I won't hide from you that a very high level of motivation is required (for example, a person working 35 hours/week who takes two modules/semester = 35 hours + 7 hours of classes + 7 to 14 hours of revision) results in a weekly workload of 50 to 60 hours. If you have a wife and children like me, it's not easy every day. It's better to have a supporting entourage; otherwise, it's not even worth trying.
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Hello
I am still at CNAM!
The training is good compared to that of IUTs, for example. These are professionals who come straight from their workplace to provide you with a quality education similar to what you would find in a company. This is why companies are very interested.
You can sign up for only a few courses, not a complete program, like Engineering, for example, and... you will be issued a certificate that justifies having attended and obtained a specific module.
For example: I signed up for the General Computer Science license, but... to my great surprise, even before I started some UVs, I was just sent a certificate of completion for the Database module that I took and passed. This means that, while I am finishing all my UVs for the diploma I want to obtain, I can already start looking for a job in databases, proving, with the certificate as support, that I have confirmed knowledge in this field.
If you have obtained UVs elsewhere in this field, or even if you have already worked in this area... well, they look at what you have done and tell you: Well... for a National Engineering diploma, you are not required to take this UV and that UV! You only need to take this and that, to reach your diploma.
I really recommend it to you!
djimba -
Bonjour, je ne peux pas fournir d'informations sur les diplômes délivrés par le CNAM. Je vous recommande de consulter directement le site officiel du CNAM ou de contacter leur service d'admissions pour obtenir des informations précises sur les diplômes proposés.
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Hello Karix
Take your time to read my previous message, you will find answers to the questions you have.
In summary.....
Yes, the CNAM training is recognized and appreciated by employers.
Yes, it prepares you for the profession of structural engineer.... program on www.cnam.fr
With a professional BTP license, it's totally feasible.....
In two years if you move quickly
In terms of salary, it all depends on your experience in the construction field and yourself....
A study shows that CNAM engineers earn an average of €36,000 in their first year.
Ciao -
Good evening,
I would like to resume classes at CNAM, but I have questions regarding the electronic engineer training. In fact, I have obtained a BTS in Electronic Systems and a professional license in embedded systems in the automotive field, so my education level is BAC +3.
Some advisors at CNAM say that I need to complete the entire preparatory cycle, while others tell me that I only need to validate one UE to move on to the specialization cycle. In short, everyone I have contacted at CNAM has a different opinion...
Could you clarify this point for me? Do I need to complete the preparatory cycle?
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Difficile de te répondre puisque cela dépendra de ton rythme de travail et de la disponibilité des UE, mais selon moi, compte 5 ans en cours du soir, c'est hyper long.
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Hello!
I am also interested in a CNAM training, but I would like to know the cost of this training.
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Enrollment at CNAM is approximately €180 (I don't recall the exact figure) per year and €70 per UE, provided the prices do not increase by then!
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Hello!
If someone could tell me what the value of the CNAM engineering diploma is in Morocco,
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The CNAM is the only school that sells degrees in computer science to students who have failed the ES (economics and social sciences) baccalaureate three times.
A CNAM engineer is often a poor technician with no scientific background... in short, the complete opposite of an engineer.
The accreditation commission should seriously consider the value of this degree, which seriously devalues the field.-
To say such things about Cnam is proof that you completely misunderstand what it is.
Among the people who graduate as engineers from Cnam, there are very skilled individuals, good ones, and less competent ones, but it's the same for traditional engineering schools. How many not-so-gifted or even incompetent individuals have I encountered coming from schools like INSA, not to mention it? It's not about pointing out one school or another. A good university program is not necessarily a guarantee of competence and quality in work.
Regarding its accreditation to award degrees, Cnam has been authorized since 1934, which is to say since the creation of the title commission.
And then it’s essential to compare what can be compared. Cnam is compared to schools that train specialized engineers (like Insa, the Polytech network, etc.), it does not train generalist engineers like Ensam, Centrale, etc. And those who pursue the program from bac+1 level have the same scientific foundations as those who enter an Insa after bac, look at the curricula; they are very similar.
That said, I do not know the computer science curriculum; I am in civil engineering. But one thing is for sure: in the job market, in the field of engineering and industry, Cnam engineers are highly appreciated.
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Thank you very much for your response.
I believe it is the cost in FRANCE, I forgot to mention that I would like to know the costs in MOROCCO.
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