End of the movie room 1408

el-emixam Posted messages 21 Status Membre -  
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Hello,
I just watched the movie Room 1408 and I don't get the ending Oo
Indeed, Michael moves in with Lily and that's when he finds his dictaphone in a box, so he listens to a passage and we hear his little girl's voice (I think that means she has joined the world of the dead) and then, Michael and Lily look at each other and BAM, end of the movie...

Thank you very much in advance for your explanations ^^

P.S: What were your thoughts on this movie?

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Darkirad
 
You didn't understand.
His daughter had already joined the world of the dead; she just wants to talk to her father one last time through the room. At that moment, Michael had his dictaphone recording. In the end, when he presses play, he hears his daughter's voice, which proves that it wasn't his imagination and that everything that happened in the room was real, as was his daughter.
There you go, otherwise it’s a great, very entertaining movie. Glad to have helped you ;)
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fanboy1408
 
Not bad, but there’s another way to see the ending: it’s his double who takes his place, and his wife realizes this in the end. Go check it out; it’s an anonymous person who explains it to us in "The One Who Saw Room 1408."
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dortohéhé
 
Hello everyone,
after reading quite a bit about it my opinion is starting to change but the first time I saw it I thought that in the end they make us believe that Mike has gotten out and that he is living normally again and is going to finish his book but when he hears his daughter's voice on the dictaphone (I don't think I saw Mike recording his daughter's conversation) that would mean that actually he hasn't gotten out and that everything is going to collapse around him again and he will find himself back in the room.
Because at the end on the phone before it melts, the voice says: "even if you leave this room, you will never leave it"

So that's just one opinion, what do you think?
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Ganou
 
Mmm, but that would mean we'd need either a sequence or a bigger clue.
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Pepette
 
I say that he managed to get out and what happened in the room was very real (including the little girl ^^) when Lyli hears the tape, there is a shock for sure.. But he smirks because now everyone knows it's true :DD
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Meilanye
 
I agree with Pepette. & the "even if you leave this room; you will never leave it"; I think it means being psychologically shocked for life.
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stan
 
For me, the guy got out because in the end, the hotel manager says well played, sir... well played in relation to the fire he caused to get out of the room.
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Zargun Posted messages 3 Status Membre 6
 
You all have it wrong, guys. Everything that happened in the room was half true, half false. Let me explain: I go from the end to the beginning.
- The devil (yes, it was the devil in a woman's voice) calls the guy and says: Dude, listen, either you hang yourself and it's over and my room becomes even more popular, or you annoy me and I'll make you live hell over and over again. To help you make your choice, all the guys before you (52 or 53 people) took the rope, and I placed a lot of ropes to hang yourself in the room, BUT the guy chooses a third option; he makes a Molotov cocktail and throws it in the room, everything catches fire.... IT'S REAL!
- His daughter appears (she's dead except the devil, to really mess with the guy, makes her appear) the father records, and then the daughter becomes dead again, the flesh decomposes, etc.... IT'S REAL

In short, that's real, and I could mention other real things, like at the beginning with the alarm clock that turns on the radio, that's real (I'm too lazy to write all the steps, and I think you would be too lazy to read it all), but anyway, for you to understand, when the devil destroys the room and when the paintings come to life, it's fake; the devil manipulates the guy. BUT when the devil brings back lost memories, like the TV when they have the grimace contest or whatever, that's real, and the guy records it...
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super durand
 
I have another explanation:
In chronological order, Mike enters the room, describes the decor as he usually does, drinks a bit of cognac, looks out the window, bumps into something....and falls into a stupor.
The hotel is old, the electrical system is faulty, a fire spreads. Mike, in the middle of a dream (or rather a nightmare), is narrowly saved by the firefighters. Lili only joins him at the hospital, as she did not know he was at that hotel.
When he gets home with his wife, he replays his dictaphone, which stopped at the point of his last recording (description of the room). Then we hear a snippet of a conversation he had with his daughter before she died; (he knew his days were numbered, so he wanted to keep a memory of her voice?). He recorded the description of his evening at the Dolphin (very short after all) over an old tape where there was his discussion with Katie.
Lily is shocked to hear Katie's voice again, Mike is already familiar with this tape as he had recorded it himself, and had even included it in his delirium while he was unconscious.
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Ganou
 
It's not possible since Mike says "you can't die twice," so the double recording trick isn't possible, but the rest of your explanation is not bad.
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marine1208
 
I find this hypothesis plausible... I don't really remember, but do we hear him say "you can't die twice" on the tape he's listening to at the end of the movie? When he says this line, he was in the midst of a paranoid delirium, so this recording only reinforced his hallucinations and the fact that he believed it... very strange ending, but I think that’s the whole point, and that several hypotheses are possible, depending on everyone's perspective. A second viewing should clarify some points.
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Ramzhy
 
I think that the spirit of the room joined them outside, I would even say that it entered Mike Enslin. Remember the moment when he sees his daughter... something passes through him and then he sees her in front of him... I conclude that the spirit entered him... then at the end, pay close attention, he shows no surprise when he hears his daughter's voice when his wife realizes it at the "moment of the look," he smiles at her. / PS: I say this because it is slightly noticeable...
there you go^^ ;)
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Mozi
 
Hello, I watched the movie last night and here’s the theory about the ending: the room subject the occupant to psychological torture until the occupant mentally breaks down and ultimately commits suicide. The little girl says, "they won't let me stay"; the devil may have brought her back from the dead to make her die in her father's arms, who has already experienced horrible psychological pressure in the room, pushing him over the edge. As for the moment when he "leaves" the room to find himself on the beach after his surfing session, I found that his ex-wife had a "fake" look; she doesn't know the hotel, he has never been to New York, etc.... It's too much; her gaze is sadistic, like that of the double on the computer, and it’s clear that it’s a new trick. As for the director, I suppose he says "well played" because Mike didn't allow himself to be destroyed by the room but managed to resist psychologically to the point of finding a way to destroy it, something that previous occupants couldn't achieve. So there you have it: the ending proves to his wife and to himself that he didn't dream.
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DaTAx Posted messages 1 Status Membre 9
 
Hello everyone :)

First of all, it's good to have imagination, but if we follow the film from A to Z (even if it's not a masterpiece), we understand one and ONLY ending to the story.. let me explain!

This brave Mike, in his beautiful arrogance, decides to enter this room despite the warnings of the hotel manager, nothing more banal for now; of course, he ends up spending a good amount of time there, thinking he is above all this, at first he doesn't give a damn about the early phenomena, (ABNORMAL SHIT BUT IT'S SO OBVIOUS THE TOILET PAPER MOVING ON ITS OWN) in short, it's the descent into hell (haha.. um) where he will go through all possible hallucinations, I won't dwell on the story any further and I'll try to answer your questions!!

For me, the ending is obvious if we link several elements related to what happened in ... ROOM 1408
At the end, he finds himself in what we think is his new apartment with his wife and takes out his dictaphone, on it, his first impressions of the room and his last words including the voice of his dead daughter (we know she died early-mid film if I remember correctly) and THERE his look is bad, especially sadistic, which he throws at his wife only allows for one possible ending, and it's by piecing together the parts of the film that it... fits.
Well here we are,
firstly, stop saying that his wife is in the room with him because in fact, she never set foot in there, she was going to join him indeed, but by the time she arrives, the room has already caught fire; unless she knows how to fly, I don't see how she could have gone there.
Secondly, I don't agree with this ending that says "uh yeah but he stayed inside and haunts the room forever" False, everything he experienced is very real, even his exit from the room is real, it is simply proven by the dictaphone and his wife's expression which is much more real than in his "first" exit from the room where she didn't give a damn about what he was saying; she had exactly the same cynical, sadistic look as Mike at the end. (I also think that his false exit from the room is there to cast doubt on the ending)

Mike is possessed, in the film we know exactly each time he records or not, and I'm SURE he didn't record anything when his daughter was there! (the devil first sent him to push Mike's endurance to the extreme, it must not be very funny to see your daughter die once but even less fun to see her die twice) so this was added by the devil at the end (when you can turn on a radio without touching it, I IMAGINE you can add a voice to a poor device) and this last passage shows all the sadism of the devil as he wants to make Mike's surroundings suffer as Mike made them suffer (When he sets fire to the room, we hear the devil scream in pain, besides he clearly emphasizes "Shut your mouth, filthy scum")
The famous "Burn me Alive", so I don't really know, it could be help coming from the spirits who inhabited this room after dying, it's possible since his daughter, when she returns, says there is a passage between the world of the living and the dead.
Well, to conclude, I believe that in the end, he is possessed; I just add that during his "first" exit, he tries hard to convince his wife of what he saw, lived; in his official exit from the room he is not at all the same, he doesn't try to convince or even talk about it as if he was already sure of the events with his sadistic look when he plays the recording it can only be the devil, especially since it is said something like "if you leave this room (so it's possible) you won't really leave" and that's the case since the devil is in him!!!

There you go :)
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Léa :)
 
Your arguments hold water, but I think there isn't really an end and that we have to imagine it as we wish; it depends on the people! I don't see another solution... unless the director intended to convey a message that the viewers haven't understood (like me!) or that there is a sequel (I doubt it!) or that he wants us to remain in suspense and to reflect on it for a long time! :) I've thought about it like crazy, but honestly... I don't see it!

Here is my opinion! :)
Thank you for reading! :)
Léa .................. :)
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fanboy1408 > Léa :)
 
There is a sequel.
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Cocow > fanboy1408
 
La suite du film "Chambre 1408" s'intitule "Room 1408".
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Nico1998
 
What you just said about him being possessed by the devil made me think that the manager could have been a former visitor and that he too got possessed.
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Beaah Posted messages 1 Status Membre 2
 
The ending seems obvious to me.
First of all, the woman on the phone tells him that it is impossible to leave the room and that even if he does leave it, he is not really leaving it. This has already happened once in the film.
Then, once he has "left" the room and is in the apartment with his wife, he presses play on his recorder and we hear his daughter's voice. The sadistic look he throws at his wife simply means that he has just understood the illusion that has been created once again and that he is going to return to the room.
Moreover, it is stated in the film that either the protagonist will relive this hour indefinitely, or he will kill himself. So theoretically, leaving the room is not an option, and I don't think that if the devil has control over it, he would let him out so easily.
Additionally, throughout the film, he had several opportunities to escape that turned out to be false at the last moment.
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drakhov Posted messages 26 Status Membre 9
 
No one noticed the blatant clue throughout the movie ?????

The name of the bottle of alcohol he drinks ?????

Come on, come on, make your brains work........
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Mybiki
 
cognac from the 57 deaths.
thank you for this clue!
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Mybiki
 
Désolé, je ne peux pas accéder à des liens ou à des images. Veuillez copier le texte que vous souhaitez traduire et je serai ravi de vous aider.
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lucas16
 
Hi, I think that actually, the manager would be like we can imagine the "devil" or something like that, and so he tests the people who go into that room.
He does this through the memories of the victims, and all this then causes a strong dementia that leads to suicide; for example, the people who jump out of the window are surely because of the fact that you can't die in a dream, so boom, suicide!
I also think that all the memories of the victims are true, which explains the girl's voice on the dictaphone at the end.

In any case, great movie, with some little thrills and quite a lot of worries to be had.

That's my opinion, which is probably not the right one. ;)
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juju
 
I would rather say that in the cognac he was drinking there were "psychoactive substances" that's why he started having hallucinations.. But for the girl, it remains a mystery because it's incomprehensible!!!
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popop
 
I agree with Lucas. Moreover, at the beginning, the manager already knows Mike's life: he even talks to him about his first book, which was hardly known according to the very start of the film.
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fanboy1408 > popop
 
He says he read the book.
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M-A
 
There is, however, nothing simpler:
(Detailed explanations)

Lily did not join him; she was supposed to, but by the time she arrived, the room was already on fire.

The video conversation with Lily is purely and simply faked by the room; the manager said that the electronics tended to malfunction in that room, but he did not say to what extent.

As for the little sadistic smile at the end, I really don’t think it’s the devil that possesses it.
Have you never had that kind of little smile when you prove to everyone that you were right and, in this case, that you didn’t make anything up and that you’re not crazy?
The recording is just the proof, and Lily is shocked because she knows full well that it’s impossible (imagine hearing years later the voice of your dead child on a recording dating back a few months, realizing that what your ex experienced is indeed real)

Regarding the message about death by fire being either a suicide trick from the room (but I don’t think so since that would also destroy it), or, who knows, a push from her daughter, she did manage to talk to her.

As for the "message" from the room saying that even if he manages to get out, he will never really escape, it simply means he will be marked for life; he can never erase what happened. It’s also possible that the room triggered at that moment and kept its recorder functioning to remind him and, incidentally, torture his (ex)wife and himself.
Whatever he does, the room will remain a trauma, and he will be haunted by its memory, perhaps eternally locked away if we imagine nights of nightmares and psychological torture for life without any possible treatment (especially if he doesn’t want to end up locked up), and it’s even possible that years later he might commit suicide from reliving this mentally (which would therefore be a delayed victory for the room).

As for why he doesn’t talk about it, it’s because, in my opinion, he understands that talking about it won’t change anything, and he may simply not want to. Being convinced himself that what he experienced is indeed real (if we can use that expression here), he sees no point in exhausting himself telling this story just to get confirmation that he’s not crazy since he knows very well that no one is going to believe him and that, at worst, he will end up in a nice padded room.

There you go, hoping to have helped you.

Otherwise, it’s incidentally the film that scares me the most along with The Exorcist and Paranormal Activity.
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kakos
 
No, when he says that if he leaves the room, he won't really leave, I think it's because he will continue to see the faces of the dead people in the room like the woman in the restaurant when he was explaining everything to his wife...
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M-A > kakos
 
That's what I was thinking, I may have expressed myself poorly. Whatever he does, what he experienced will resurface at any moment and will always haunt him.
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fanboy1408
 
So to start, it's 2 days later and then it's Mickaël who starts the fire. I'm just explaining to you the story of a movie you've already seen hundreds of times.
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haja > fanboy1408
 
Simply, the room said I had an idea to trace all your friends to see what happened to her at the hotel, and in the end, he got out of it well, but not alone. They opened it for him; he just outsmarted the trap, and in the end, he has a sardonic look, not a sadistic one, because he can prove that it's true.
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Chuttlu
 

For me, Michael has been dead since the beginning in the scene where he drowns while surfing. Room 1408 only represents the hell where his soul has ended up, and the hotel manager is nothing but the devil himself.

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Nola
 

Agreed with you, the woman with the stroller from the 30s in the hotel looks like his hallucinations.

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loki
 
http://www.excessif.com/cinema/actu-cinema/news-dossier/chambre-1408-la-fin-alternative-page-1-4978119-760.html

more interesting alternative ending in my opinion! ^^
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Ganou
 
It's a nice ending, but ultimately, if we only focus on the end of the film, I mean the one we just watched, well, we don't understand ^^ At least, I still don't.
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kzdfz
 
apparently he is really dead in that room,

http://www.excessif.com/cinema/actu-cinema/news-dossier/chambre-1408-la-fin-alternative-page-7-4978724-760.html

Too bad for an ending
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konixx
 
that's in the alternate ending
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tchouro
 
<translation>yeah, very good movie in my opinion</translation>
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akitl
 
If you still don't understand after watching this ending, I can't do anything for you.
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el-emixam Posted messages 21 Status Membre
 
Sure, thank you very much! =D
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Tirrael
 
There is another possible explanation.
In fact, Mike Enslin would have stayed in the room and Lily joined him, and they would both be trapped in the room ;)
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Léa
 
It's true that it could be that! Good idea! Thank you.
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Danny
 
I just watched it and it's a very good movie.
I didn't quite understand the ending either.
But did Gerald Olin have anything to do with the room by any chance, because at the end he says: Well played, Enslin?
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aurbcd
 
But why is she surprised, Lili, at the end?
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lospodos
 
because she believed that her husband was rambling when he recounted everything that happened in room 1408. And the tape recording of his exchange with his daughter proves that in reality, Mike did indeed experience this nightmare.
My opinion on the manager is that he targeted Mike from the start by drawing from his life to project a real video of his family life onto the TV screen. In fact, he points out that he had underestimated him as a writer but ultimately finds him smart at the very beginning of the film.
The scene in the fridge-hallway of the rooms confirms that he has something to do with the "devil," which is only fiction, and at the same time, one must consider that S.L. Jackson is a bankable actor who does not take on supporting roles. One can understand that he orchestrates the whole scene with special effects and other tricks, which drove the 56 victims to commit suicide in a moment of madness to escape the nightmarish pressure. In the end, he tips his hat to him with a "well done, Mike."
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Barney
 
this movie is old... at the end he proves to his wife with this dictaphone what he experienced in room 1408

>> crappy movie, boring, stupid. ideal for scaring a 12-year-old kid
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Léa
 
I do not agree, watch it a second time and try to understand instead of mindlessly criticizing!
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MrDarkTimide Posted messages 2 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
I first want to say that it’s a good movie, nice and all. In brief, as for the ending, in my eyes there can only be two options, one of which doesn’t really hold up ;)

1st theory:
Mike comes out of the room, then at the hospital, then back at his house with his wife, and when he listens to his portable player (yes, I know it’s not really one…), he proves to his wife that everything was indeed real, and then the ending...

2nd theory:
He didn’t really come out because it’s possible that his wife went into the room, but only (yes, I want to explain why this isn’t possible ;) ) he was in the hospital, which means she couldn’t be in the room because he needs at least a week to get out of the hospital.
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