Samsung LE40M86BDX/XE LCD Powering Issue
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Hello,
I own a Samsung LCD TV model LE40M86BDX/XEC.
Normally, when turned on, the red LED blinks 4 or 5 times, a small sound occurs, and then it turns on.
For a few days now, when trying to turn it on, the LED blinks at least ten times along with the small sound
which is not normal.
What problem could this be, and what do you suggest doing?
Best regards.
I own a Samsung LCD TV model LE40M86BDX/XEC.
Normally, when turned on, the red LED blinks 4 or 5 times, a small sound occurs, and then it turns on.
For a few days now, when trying to turn it on, the LED blinks at least ten times along with the small sound
which is not normal.
What problem could this be, and what do you suggest doing?
Best regards.
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Indeed... it was the 4 dead capacitors. I put in 1000 µF 25V (the originals were 10V)... and it's all good. Repaired.
The image of the board with the 4 dead capacitors (as they are bulging on top) is in the top right: http://photomaniak.com/upload/out.php/i1041202_DSC04799.JPG -
If you want to turn on your screen despite this problem, heat your TV with a hairdryer through the back vents!! In 1 minute it will turn on!! I've had the same problem twice; I need to replace my capacitors, but in the meantime, this trick works well!! I found it out myself because I leave my screen on since it wouldn't turn on anymore, and after a power outage, here I am without a TV!! And since it always turns on when warm, I thought I'd heat it up, and there you go!! I hope this helps some people!!
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I've started tinkering:
here on the left of the photo is a swollen capacitor
http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/dscn14285.php
here is the location of the capacitors on the board
http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/dscn14264.php
be careful with the polarization when remounting the capacitors!-
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Good evening
40W iron and find capacitors like this
https://www.hellopro.fr/super-condensateur-2015991-1208669-produit.html
the original ones are not made for power supply circuits
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Hello
I have the same screen as you, and exactly the same problem, the LED blinks up to 20 times before the screen turns on, accompanied by a clicking noise, and the screen turns on by itself at night, it's ridiculous... lol
I'm laughing but I'm really frustrated, the screen is only 1 year old
The repairman is coming this Monday, we'll see,
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Okay, let's go and hold Samsung accountable because this is a real scam that we cannot accept, and especially one that we shouldn't have to bear to please Samsung. It's also about the capacitors; we need to warn the MEDIA and highlight Samsung's scam, because it's pointless to repair on our own (SAMSUNG is too happy about that). I'm here to support everyone.
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Hello everyone and thank you to "how it works".
My SAMSUNG LE40M87BD television didn't turn on anymore: "blinking standby". At first, it started after 5 minutes, then after a week it took a good 15 minutes. And last Sunday nothing at all = just the "blinking standby" with the characteristic incessant "tictic" sound.
I quickly found this discussion. I disassembled my television and found three slightly swollen capacitors on top. All of the same type = radial electrolytic capacitor 10V 1000µ 105°C.
I replaced them with 25V 1000µ 105°C capacitors and since then = my television works like new.
I know absolutely nothing about electronics. I didn't know how to solder. The repair took me 30 to 40 minutes and cost 11.09 euros = 9.20 euros for the soldering kit (a soldering iron, a stand, solder, and a desoldering pump) and 3 capacitors at 0.63 euros each... All that at ECE, 66 rue de Montreuil in Paris in the 12th (metro line 9 station rue des boulets).-
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A big thank you to all of you. Same problem as you, fixed thanks to the advice from this forum. Cost of the repair 6 Euros !!!!!!!!!! Samsung is pathetic in handling this design issue. Their components are of poor quality. Spreading the word to give them negative publicity is the best way to "force" them to change their behavior.
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Hello
it's not that they are of poor quality, it's that the capacitors are not made for a power supply and it will happen again
here are the capacitors that should be https://materiel.hellopro.fr/condensateurs-electrolytiques-3002817-1-feuille.html -
If you live in Paris, you can even get each capacitor changed for around 3 euros per piece at ECE at 66 rue de Montreuil 75011.
I personally had 6 capacitors changed in my Samsung LE40M86BDX/XEC for less than 22 euros (25V capacitors instead of 10V), even though only 4 were bulging.
Plus, the seller was very nice. He knows the issue with Samsung capacitors well. According to him, they are "programmed" to fail just a little over 2 years after purchase (just a few months after the warranty ends).
So for those who aren't sure about their soldering skills or their ability as an electronics technician, it's the perfect solution. Plus, you support small businesses... Now my TV is like new... -
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Hello everyone,
I hope my comment will be useful to others who come across it and read it, as this discussion topic was very helpful to me.
My Samsung LE40M86BDX television was taking a while to turn on. During the startup phase, a "click" sound was noticeable with a fairly pronounced frequency... At least one "click" per second... After about a minute or two, the television managed to turn on, display an image, and produce sound. So far, so good, I guess. Once turned off after about twenty minutes, while the television was supposed to enter "extended standby" mode, it would turn itself back on. I had to unplug it from the wall to avoid this annoyance.
After consulting this discussion thread, I decided to take a closer look at what might be causing the issue. I removed the back panel of the television. The power supply board is the one visible in the center of the unit once the back is removed...
Upon closer inspection of this board, two capacitors were slightly bulged, just before bursting... I desoldered the faulty components, noted the specifications, 2200µf /10V /105°C.
A quick internet search helped me find some addresses of electronic parts retailers in Paris; I want to share these addresses as the people at these two shops are very professional and helpful... Both shops are located in the 11th arrondissement of Paris (Metro/RER A Nation).
http://www.selectronic.fr/
https://web1.ibcfrance.fr/index.htm
I went to Selectronic, and as soon as I presented the part to the seller, he smiled and told me I was the 4th person that day... I asked him why, and he asked me: is it for a Samsung TV?... And yes, my friend, you guessed it right, that's why....
So I bought some capacitors 2200µf /25V / 105°C. Note that I changed to 25 Volts in voltage (they are just a bit larger in size, don't be surprised, but the spacing of the leads remains the same), a soldering kit with a 40 W soldering iron because I admit I had a bit of trouble removing the faulty capacitors with my old 30 W iron... All for €13.90....
Back home, soldering iron plugged in, action... I placed the new capacitors in the slots of the old ones, respecting the polarity (when removing the faulty capacitors during disassembly, be careful of their mounting direction, although the prints on the board remind you...)... Soldering with tin... A quick cut with wire cutters to remove the excess leads of unnecessary capacitors, and that’s it...
I reassembled the board, reconnected all the connectors I had removed previously to take out the board... Then I tested it by plugging it back in... And there, surprise.... Just a click at startup like before, then the image and sound followed... I turned it off, tested again... And the same thing, an instant start... I turned it off and after about twenty minutes, the unit entered "extended standby" without turning itself back on. I reattached the back panel of the television. It is functional again...
In conclusion, although I contacted the service provider responsible for repairing Samsung brand televisions, I have only one thing to say, they will not see either the shade of my television or my money... Because I can well imagine they charge a fortune for this type of repair...
Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences here.
If you would like advice regarding the procedure to follow or even the equipment to use, feel free... I will try to provide you with information as best as I can, as others have done here before me...
Sincere greetings to all.-
Hello, thank you for your demonstration and your advice. Regarding my case, I have the same type of TV as yours, I just changed the 4 capacitors but the problem is still the same. I wanted to know if the value is the same for the 4 capacitors that I changed, 2200UF 25V? Thank you for responding. I can even leave you my phone number if you can contact me. Thank you in advance, 06 46 13 72 28 Samy, from Lyon.
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Good evening Samy,
Following our phone conversation, please find attached via the link the location as well as the exact value of the capacitors present on the board originally... As shown in the photo, you just need to replace the 2200 µF / 10 V / 105 °C capacitors with 2200 µF / 25V / 105 °C capacitors and the other two with the indicated value of 1000 µF / 25V / 105 °C. Be sure to respect the polarity during assembly...
Hoping this can help you and remedy your failure...
Regards and good luck....
P.S: the link to the photo
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Hi Baptiste, it's Samy from Lyon. I'm sorry for the delay. Anyway, I went to a repair shop and changed the two capacitors at the bottom for 1000 UF 25v, but unfortunately, I still have the same problem: the TV won't start. The repairman said he would take a look and keep me updated on the repair; I'm still waiting...
Thank you very much for your help, my friend. I'll keep you posted on what happens next.
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The EEPROM located on the motherboard has been damaged by the capacitors..
Otherwise, try holding the "power" button on the remote control for 2 minutes... If that doesn't work, the EEPROM is easy to replace; it's a 24C256 with 8 pins, right next to the connector coming from the power supply board, be careful, it's located underneath..
Good luck!
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Hello,
I had the same problem with my TV 2.5 years out of warranty, the authorized Samsung repairman told me it would cost 400 € to replace the power supply board and the main board.
So, I disassembled the TV to see what was inside, and surprise, it's just a simple PC. I checked the references of the different boards to see if I could find them cheaper online, because changing them isn't harder than replacing a graphics card.
Then, oh surprise, I typed in the reference and realized that many people have the same problem with this TV, it's crazy. However, I found the solution online, and for 8 euros, it turns out four capacitors had burned out (I suspect a design flaw in the board), and now it’s working again like it did back in the day. Instead of 400 euros for repairs, just 8 euros! Phew, I’m glad I didn’t trust those after-sales service thieves.
Best regards.-
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I have a Samsung LCD TV model LE40S86BDX/XEC.
Normally, when turned on, the red LED blinks 4 or 5 times, a small sound is heard, and then it turns on.
For a few days now, when I try to turn it on, the LED blinks with the small sound for at least 10 minutes before the image appears.
Sometimes the image doesn’t appear at all, and the TV turns off.
This is not normal.
I would like to point out that this issue started occurring since I cut off my electric meter for electrical work without unplugging my TV beforehand.
What could the problem be, and what do you suggest I do?
Best regards. -
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Hello, I changed the capacitors but the same problem persists:
- the TV takes time to turn on
- vertical color lines appear.
What should I do?????
a solution please, quickly.-
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I currently have the same problem with a LE46F86BDX. Two capacitors were changed because I had the extended warranty. However, now, once the screen is cold and I turn it on, it shows large darker bands towards the right side of the panel. Once the screen is warm, the phenomenon completely disappears.
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Hello,
I have changed all the capacitors as well as the 4 opto-isolators and the problem persists.
Does anyone have a solution to give me?
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Hello everyone!
I have the same problem as everyone, my Samsung LCD TV model LE40R73BDX/XEF takes too long to turn on (between 2 and 5 minutes) and beeps during that time!
I have removed the back cover, I have visualized the power board but I can't see where the capacitors are in all this mess!
Could someone provide me with the references of these capacitors listed on the power board!
Thanks in advance!
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Hello everyone!
I am new to this forum, and I am also facing a problem with turning on my SAMSUNG LCD screen, model LE40R87BD (yes, that's one more!). I bought this TV in April 2008, and therefore it has been out of warranty for 4 months (since I didn't take an extended warranty!). By browsing this discussion forum, I realized that my problem is not an isolated case. Indeed, my TV also makes that famous "click-click" sound, as if it is continuously turning on and off, so my TV doesn't even have time to display an image or have sound! I am actually forced to unplug my TV from the wall socket for it to stop making that "click-click". I opened the device's cover and inspected the power board; and indeed I found that 2 capacitors of type 2200µF 10V 105°C were dead (bulging). I then removed the power board and replaced my 2 faulty capacitors with 2200µF 16V 105°C (not the 10V ones as originally, as the 16V would be more robust according to many users who have intervened on this forum). However, my concern now is that despite replacing these defective capacitors, my TV unfortunately still doesn't work!!!! This "click-click" problem persists (but at slightly more spaced intervals), and I obviously still have no sound or image!! Could anyone please help me???? Should I have also replaced other capacitors even if they appeared intact, or could the problem lie elsewhere??
In any case, it's very frustrating when a LCD TV worth about 1000 euros fails after just 2 years and 4 months, and on top of that, it's no longer under warranty!! Like all of you, I would like to be able to repair my TV myself without breaking the bank!!!!
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Hello Rimkuss,
As of today, my problem is still not resolved (unfortunately)!
I don't know if you've read all my comments in this thread, but I am currently taking steps to obtain compensation from the manufacturer and/or the store that sold me my television; it seems that my television (like yours!) has a design flaw, or a hidden defect, related to inadequate capacitors.
Indeed, there are legal texts that protect consumers in cases of hidden defects in products (Articles 1641 and following of the Civil Code), even when the commercial warranty has expired, especially if it has expired recently!
Initially, I sent a registered letter with acknowledgment of receipt to the consumer service of "SAMSUNG" on 09/22/2010, which replied about a week later, telling me that it could not intervene, and therefore invited me to contact the after-sales service of the store that sold me my television to follow up on my request.
Then, on 10/29/2010 (only due to lack of time before!), I sent a registered letter with acknowledgment of receipt to the consumer service of the store that sold me my television. I attached a copy of my invoice (proof of purchase), a copy of my complaint letter sent to the consumer service of "SAMSUNG," a copy of the letter from the consumer service of "SAMSUNG" that I received in response to my complaint, and finally a copy of the "warranty and after-sales service contract" from the store (the warranty and after-sales service contract which includes the legal texts related to hidden defects in products that obligate the seller as well as the manufacturer to compensate consumers in this context).
As of today, I am waiting for a response (preferably favorable!) from the consumer service of the store that sold me my television...
As for you, have you managed to get your television working again after replacing the capacitors? In any case, for me, if I had known about the legal texts related to hidden defects from the start, I wouldn't have even changed the capacitors; I would have directly turned against the manufacturer and/or the seller!
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Hi liillloooouuuuu
Copy and paste this link into your browser's address bar, try to see if the circuit board at the back of your TV looks like this.
http://img291.imageshack.us/i/valeurscondos.jpg/
As for me, I replaced the two capacitors marked 2200µf /10V /105°C in the photo with 2200µf /25V /105°C... All four capacitors installed in the area shown in the photo must have a value of 25V and not 10V....
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Hello
I have a Samsung LE40R86BDX/XEC and I have the same problem, meaning clicks without sound or image. I followed the forum's advice and changed 4 capacitors. 2 of 2200 microfarads that were bulging and 2 of 1000 microfarads that were normal. The problem persists, nothing has changed for me. I noticed that I have the same model of TV as ALEXKA, for whom it didn't work either. I therefore suspect that for this model of TV it is not just a matter of capacitors. Unfortunately for us!!
There is surely another issue, what could it be?? I rely on your advice
Thank you
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Hello Zicos, hello everyone,
Well, I have exactly the same problem as everyone else, with a LE40R86BDX/XEC that is 2 years and 9 months old, out of warranty now.
I changed the 2 burnt 2200 µF capacitors, full of hope!
But the problem remains unchanged, it still won't start, and there's a constant clicking sound.
I tried the hairdryer trick, but that doesn't work either!
Zicos, have you had any updates or found a way to fix the problem?
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if there is still a click click, check all the welds carefully
a hole like that on a weld and click click
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I had 2 2200 capacitors -> changed
The other capacitors look good...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1344544/DSC_0222.JPG
or I would need to buy the right models again
I was talking about the power fuses that can be found at the bottom right of this photo (I only saw one there)
http://photomaniak.com/upload/out.php/i1041202_DSC04799.JPG
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Hello,
I also fixed the problem :) my LCD LE40M86M... is turning on normally again
I went on YouTube and there are some videos floating around... that gave me confidence
I spent 2.80 euros on capacitors (4 capacitors 1000µf 10v 105° as mentioned above)
1) remove the cover
2) disconnect all the cables (small photo beforehand to locate everything)
3) unscrew the power board (it's in the center of the TV, you can't miss it)
4) desolder the 4 components while keeping track of the polarity beforehand; at first, I used my 18-watt soldering iron that I use for modding Wiis, but it didn't get hot enough and the solder wouldn't melt, so I pulled out my soldering station and set the iron to 450°, and it was perfect.
5) re-solder everything and test before putting the cover back on
6) tell yourself that you've saved a lot and that these LCDs are really crap, paid almost 1400 euros 2 years and 1 month ago and broke down 1 week after the warranty expired, with an unreachable customer service by phone :(
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Honestly, thank you guys!!! We're not DIYers at all, but thanks to your explanations we managed to repair our TV for only 3 euros.... Many bought this TV at the same time and the same problem keeps happening.... They must have put together a batch of defective capacitors.... and it’s seriously easy to fix!!!! Don't hesitate!!!! And the higher the voltage, the better it is!!!! Amazing, thanks again to those who took the time!!!!
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Hello,
A big thank you to this forum that helped me fix my Samsung television. Now it works really, really well.
My television: Samsung LE46M86BDX/XEC
As for me, I had to change 3 capacitors. Here is the reference of the capacitors I bought:
Brand KSC, 1000 µF, 105°C, 25 V (25 Volt works great)
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Hello,
I had the same problem with my TV, so I changed the capacitors. There were 3 out of 4 that were bulging, but I replaced all 4 with 25 Volt capacitors instead of 10 Volts.
The problem seems to be solved, we'll see if it lasts over time.
For 4 euros and a few dozen minutes of disassembly, soldering, and reassembly, I'm pretty happy that it works.
Anyway, if the problem is the same, don't hesitate to give it a try.
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Bonjour, je voulais savoir pour les condensateurs que vous avez changés, est-ce qu'il faut respecter l'ampérage ? Parce que j'ai fait la même chose mais ça ne marche toujours pas. J'ai remis des condos de 2200 µF 25 V. Le souci, c'est que je ne sais pas combien d'ampérage ou de volts pour les originaux, car il y avait un réparateur malhonnête qui m'a refait ça pour 200 euros. Mais là, la télé a marché seulement un jour, après elle s'est arrêtée.
PS : j'ai un Samsung LCD LE40R86BDX/XEC. Merci à ceux qui peuvent me donner plus de renseignements.
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Hello everyone,
be careful, it doesn’t work, if it was just a matter of charging 4 capacitors for it to work...
I spent the afternoon between ECE, 66 rue de Montreuil and my home, as a result, I am 30 euros lighter, I have 5 new capacitors and a new chip but the TV still doesn't turn on.
So if you have some time and a few extra euros, give it a try.
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Hello Lulutte91,
I have the same problem. The TV keeps turning on, but for how long?
Could you give me the reference for the power board as well as the capacitors that you changed?
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Which component is located behind the two solders, as indicated by the pink arrow? The copper trace does not extend to the solder joint.
[url=http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/5fd5d83db7c8653c4c641f9872967faa4.php][img]http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/5fd5d83db7c8653c4c641f9872967faa4.jpg[/img][/url]
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Hello,
Same problem with my model LE46F86: very long to start, constant "click click" noise....
While searching on Google for this issue, I came across this site. I followed to the letter the advice from various others affected by their SAMSUNG screens by changing 2 bulging capacitors out of 4.
Result: perfect! My TV is working normally again for:
- 2 euros
- 30 minutes of repair (unscrewing the TV cover, finding the capacitors, soldering, reassembling the cover)
- and a pride in having solved this issue at a low cost
Thanks to everyone who shared their experience and to this site which deserves to exist! It allowed me not to waste money on a shady repairman and to stay calm!
Best regards-
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Hello Annaloucia,
I think Tarascon (hello) just wanted to let you know that you should check the voltage values of the four capacitors on the board as shown in the following illustration:
http://img291.imageshack.us/i/valeurscondos.jpg/
If the ones you haven't changed are at 25V, that's great, it was my case... I only changed two capacitors, those which had an original value of 2200µF /10V / 105°C, the other two were already at 25V....
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