Keep titles during engraving

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MajinPat Posted messages 65 Status Member -  
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Hello,
I have a problem with Nero 7. When I burn an audio CD, it's impossible to keep the song titles. Instead, it says TRACK 1 - TRACK 2 - TRACK 3, etc. It's not easy to know what music it is... I even tried going into PROPERTIES; the title and artist were there, but all that disappears once burned :(
Is there a way to solve this issue?
Thank you very much in advance!
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  1. cacoman Posted messages 506 Status Member 93
     
    Hello.

    To check if the CD text information is correctly recorded on your CD, download the following file:

    http://users.skynet.be/tim.debaets/software/WMPCDText-1.2.exe

    This is a plugin for Windows Media Player that enables CD text compatibility.

    Play your burned CD, and if the titles appear, it means the information is being read from the CD (and not retrieved from the internet).

    <<<What do you mean by "you will need to rename them in the compilation, otherwise the original file extensions will be added"?>>>
    That's a mistake. Nero automatically removes the extension (.mp3).

    At the end of the burning process, Nero offers to create a report.
    Please perform the test again and copy/paste it in your reply.

    Have a nice day

    JL
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    1. mikou
       
      Thank you for the link

      very handy plug-in!
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  2. Lark
     
    Hi,
    The information about the artist, album name, date, etc. is contained in the mp3, ogg, wma tags or any file type that supports tags.
    When you burn your files, Nero converts all that into a format readable by a home audio player.
    This format is recognized by Windows as a .cda file

    It’s not really a file type, it’s a coding for CD, we can’t store text in it (not even the file name).
    So if you want to burn audio CDs, you will inevitably lose all that information.
    Otherwise, if you burn mp3s, you will keep all your tags. But your player has to be mp3 compatible.

    Did you burn your CD to listen to it on a home player or to archive it and listen to the music on your PC?
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  3. ziggourat Posted messages 24643 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   5 340
     
    Hello MajinPat,

    What Lark is saying is absolutely correct ;)
    So you can write it down on a piece of paper or make a nice folder with the names of the tracks.

    However, I'm not sure if it will work later on a CD player, it's entirely possible to rename the files in the add window by going to Properties --> Title or Track; maybe you can modify it to whatever name you want.
    - Nero before modifications: http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7360/cdaudio00mu2.jpg
    - See Image after changes: http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/644/cdaudio07gx3.jpg
    This only works for WAV files first.
    See example with music files in WMA and MP3:
    - Nero before burning: http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7095/cdaudio11mp3wmard1.jpg
    - IsoBuster after burning: http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1733/cdaudio13mp3wmaoi5.jpg

    As for knowing the associated name, it's less obvious to access; a player like Nero ShowTime or software like IsoBuster will be able to do it.
    - See Image Nero ShowTime: http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4692/cdaudio15mp3wmafd9.jpg
    - See Image IsoBuster files WMA and MP3 converted to WAV: http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6839/cdaudio13mp3wmaun8.jpg

    Otherwise, you only have the name Track01.cda or others recognized with other players or Windows:
    - See Image VLC and Windows Explorer: http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9208/cdaudio12mp3wmapz6.jpg
    - See Image Windows Media Player: http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/92/cdaudio14mp3wmagu3.jpg

    Verification of the encoding in WAV (PCM actually) characteristic of audio files on an Audio CD, such as the frequency at 44.1 kHz:
    - IsoBuster during extraction: http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3493/cdaudio16cn5.jpg
    - After extraction: http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7122/cdaudio17el1.jpg
    - With 3 Utilities GSpot, MediaInfo and AVIcodec: http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3118/cdaudio19ed4.jpg

    But as I said, it is not at all certain that it will be readable and recognized elsewhere than on the computer!
    Everything seems a possibility of the player afterwards. I don’t know if players other than those on the computer will be able to do it.

    In conclusion, personally and subjectively, it's possible to do what you want, but it's still best to use Nero Cover Designer or Pochette Express for example, to make covers for your CDs ;)

    Best regards
    --
    Long live Bobo! Advocate for Bobo's return to the tabs!!!
    ~ Little fish will grow big ~
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  4. NTesla Posted messages 1 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   5
     
    It's quite impressive that few people have taken this subject seriously and haven't tried to verify the assumptions before refuting them... But it's good to have come to the end of it!
    Nero has indeed been able to burn information onto an audio CD for years.
    And for you djrossvelt who wanted to close this topic, we can add this program: http://users.skynet.be/tim.debaets/software/WMPCDText-1.2.exe
    Which allows the Windows Media Player to be compatible with the text data of the CD. This allows for a proper check to see if the CD has been burned correctly.
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    1. xenomorphe
       
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    2. xenomorphe
       
      Well NTesla, it's nice of you to make a post with a litany like "Country priest style, oh come on, you're not being nice by not doing it right!!!"... but if you had read the whole thread, you would have realized that your link to close this topic was already posted on 14/02/2010..... and you wake up in December....
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  5. MajinPat Posted messages 65 Status Member 10
     
    Nah I don't need that thing to make my covers, I have Photoshop =P

    Thank you very much for taking all this time to explain everything to me and for taking screenshots, that’s really nice of you ^^
    Well, it’s really too bad that I can’t keep the titles and artists... I’ll get used to it ^^"

    Thank you so much for your help! :)
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  6. diguetta
     
    I found it!!! I downloaded a wav to mp3 converter, I convert my files to burn in Wav and then I burn them :)
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  7. spily8 Posted messages 78 Status Member 7
     
    Hi,

    Have you tried reinstalling Nero? Maybe that would be a solution...
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  8. MajinPat Posted messages 65 Status Member 10
     
    With all the times I’ve reformatted my computer, thus reinstalled Nero countless times, it hasn’t changed anything at all...
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  9. MajinPat Posted messages 65 Status Member 10
     
    Thank you very much for your response, I appreciate it :)

    To answer your question, I burned an audio CD to listen to it both on a home player and on my computer, and also in the car.
    Is there really no way to keep the information contained in the tags of my mp3 files when burning an audio CD? It's mainly for the car because an mp3 CD isn't compatible with the player. Otherwise, I wouldn't be worrying about it because an mp3 CD is compatible with both the computer and the home DVD player...
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  10. tiy06
     
    Hi,

    I’m following up on this topic to see if today, one year later, there is finally a solution to display the track titles.

    Thanks
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    1. Lark
       
      Hi,

      No, it's still not possible, and it never will be. The encoding standard for an audio CD is what it is, and it won't change.
      However, if you want to convert to mp3 (or other formats) for playback on your PC or mp3 player, some software (notably Windows Media Player) automatically retrieves all the information about the tracks from the Internet and incorporates it into the metadata of the files.
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      1. tiy06 > Lark
         
        Okay, thanks for your response.
        I am looking to display the track name on my car's radio which does not read mp3s.

        I have a question that is bothering me:
        Us, mere mortals, cannot display the names of the tracks when burning a regular audio CD, but how do the professionals in the music world manage to sell their audio CDs with the song titles displayed?
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  11. Lark
     
    Uh, does your audio CD player display the song titles of commercially purchased CDs?
    To my knowledge, that's not possible, is it?
    I've never seen that, anyway.
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    1. tiy06
       
      Uh, you’re making me doubt.
      I will test it tomorrow on my car.
      I say this because when I play a commercial CD on my computer, the titles are displayed, but when I do the same with an audio CD that I just burned, it shows track01.cda, hence my conclusion…

      But the player might need to download the titles from the internet then.
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  12. Lark
     
    "But the reader may need to download the names of the titles from the internet then."
    It’s possible that there’s something like that.

    Otherwise, current CDs are often burned with part of the disc in audio and another part as a data CD (Autorun, html pages, photos, etc.).
    Your player may be using this data CD.
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    1. tiy06
       
      Alright,

      and I suppose that it is therefore not possible to do the same.
      To embed a data file on the audio CD to display the titles?
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  13. Lark
     
    Ah yes, it's very easy to create a mixed Audio/Data CD using Nero or others.
    But in principle, an audio CD player will not be able to read the data part of the CD; it will only see the audio tracks.

    Now, I'm not an expert in mixed CDs. Maybe there's a standard that allows recent equipment to retrieve track names from the data section of the CD.

    Try your commercial audio CD in your car radio. If it displays track names, try to find out how to set that up. If it doesn't display anything, then either this hypothetical standard doesn't exist, or your equipment doesn't support it.
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    1. tiy06
       
      I'll try to see, but I'm afraid I might already know the answer :)

      Thanks, Lark ;)
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  14. cacoman Posted messages 506 Status Member 93
     
    Hello.

    If your car radio is capable of displaying the titles of commercial CDs, it is compatible with CD-Text.
    With Nero Express, just fill in the Title and Artist fields; in the complete Nero version, after choosing to create an audio CD, in Compilation Properties, audio CD, just tick "CD text: write on the CD" and fill in the fields.

    The track titles are properly recorded on the CD, along with the album title and the artist's name.
    They will need to be renamed in the compilation; otherwise, the original file extension will be added.

    Note that the burner must support writing CD text.

    This capability is not new. Louis Bertignac's 1998 live double CD already had CD text.

    Have a good day

    JL

    Excerpt from the burning report:

    08:37:07 #2 CDADOC -1 File Cdadoc.cpp, Line 1585
    Audio item log info:
    Audio document burn settings:
    =============================
    Burn mode: DAO,
    CD Text: On,
    Cache disk or network files: No,
    Cache small files: No,
    Cache files smaller than 65536 bytes.
    Audio Multisession: No
    List of audio tracks:
    =====================
    Track 01: Length: 03:16.48, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 0, Name: '06 - This Place is Empty.mp3'.
    Track 02: Length: 03:48.13, Pause frames: 000, Filters: 0, Name: '07 - Oh No, Not You Again.mp3'.
    Track 03: Length: 04:14.63, Pause frames: 000, Filters: 0, Name: '08 - Dangerous Beauty.mp3'.
    Track 04: Length: 04:29.26, Pause frames: 000, Filters: 0, Name: '09 - Driving Too Fast.mp3'.
    Track 05: Length: 04:33.14, Pause frames: 000, Filters: 0, Name: '10 - Home.mp3'.
    Track 06: Length: 05:09.55, Pause frames: 000, Filters: 0, Name: '11 - Under the Radar.mp3'.
    Track 07: Length: 04:16.68, Pause frames: 000, Filters: 0, Name: '12 - Let Me Down Slow.mp3'.
    Track 08: Length: 04:17.68, Pause frames: 000, Filters: 0, Name: '13 - Let Me Down Slow.mp3'.
    Track 09: Length: 04:12.68, Pause frames: 000, Filters: 0, Name: '14 - It Won't Take Long.mp3'.
    Track 10: Length: 05:09.23, Pause frames: 000, Filters: 0, Name: '15 - Streets of Love.mp3'.
    Track 11: Length: 04:15.65, Pause frames: 000, Filters: 0, Name: '16 - Dangerous Beauty.mp3'.
    Track 12: Length: 04:32.69, Pause frames: 000, Filters: 0, Name: '17 - Home.mp3'.
    Track 13: Length: 04:33.08, Pause frames: 000, Filters: 0, Name: '18 - Home.mp3'.
    Track 14: Length: 04:17.28, Pause frames: 000, Filters: 0, Name: '01 - Let Me Down Slow.mp3'.
    Track 15: Length: 04:12.25, Pause frames: 000, Filters: 0, Name: '02 - It Won't Take Long.mp3'.
    Track 16: Length: 05:10.30, Pause frames: 000, Filters: 0, Name: '03 - Streets of Love.mp3'.
    Track 17: Length: 03:22.45, Pause frames: 000, Filters: 0, Name: '04 - She Saw Me Coming.mp3'.
    Track 18: Length: 04:53.05, Pause frames: 000, Filters: 0, Name: '05 - Biggest Mistake.mp3'.
    Total size: 78:48.46
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  15. tiy06
     
    Hi cacoman,

    What do you mean by "you will need to rename them in the compilation, otherwise the original file extension will be added"?

    I was doing exactly as you described, but with no result.
    I am using Nero Express 7 to burn, my burner supports text mode well, I fill in the title and artist fields correctly, but no, it doesn’t work.

    Could it be an option in Nero? I have gone through them thoroughly but found nothing.

    I tested with Real Player, which in the article provided by Lark, is stated to burn in text mode, but still the same problem.
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  16. Lark
     
    How come it doesn’t want to?
    Your car radio isn’t displaying the titles?
    Maybe it simply isn’t CD-Text compatible.

    "Support for CD-Text is common, but not universal."
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    1. tiy06
       
      No, it doesn't display the titles but my car radio normally does, so it must be a burning issue since even my Windows Media Player doesn't display them.
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  17. tiy06
     
    No, it doesn't display the titles, but normally it does, so it's definitely a burning issue since even my Windows Media Player doesn't show them.
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  18. yoyovlt
     
    Since Windows 7, it's super simple:
    you have a folder containing the mp3s of the audio CD you want to create:

    You insert a blank CD-R, go to Windows Explorer where the mp3s to burn are, select them, and right-click: send to the blank CD.

    It's the basic Windows burning tool.

    You name the CD whatever you want (preferably the name of the album)
    then file: burn the CD. The computer asks for the CD burning speed: Avoid setting the max speed, it often messes up the burn...

    The process only takes one or two minutes. The audio CD is burned.

    In my car, I have a screen that shows EVERYTHING: album, artist, song title... perfect. And it's not mp3, since the radio doesn't support them!
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    1. kerolorenzo
       
      Hi !! Tell me yoyovlt please. Is it definitely an audio CD (readable on home and PC players ????
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    2. joas
       
      despite this old post, I'm still replying, the mp3s if I burn at a low speed, 4x is good for displaying the titles! however, with .flac files I have a problem like everyone else, track.cda! too bad but there doesn't seem to be a solution!! with Nero and Winamp.
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    3. Lark
       
      @ joas: it would seem absurd to me that the presence of titles depends on the burning speed...

      Maybe your burning software doesn't handle the metadata of flac files.

      What's up with this track.cda issue like everyone else?
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  19. djrossvelt Posted messages 173 Status Member 33
     
    Hello everyone!

    I am a DJ and since I burn a lot of CDs... yes Nero displays the titles!!

    When I burn a CD and then put it in my player
    (Pioneer CDJ1000 MK2) it shows me the titles but for a little while now it hasn’t been displaying them anymore!

    So if someone has a solution??

    But otherwise, yes I can confirm that Nero puts the titles on my CD and it was an audio CD (80 min max) and not MP3!!

    Please respond!!!!!!
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