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Hello!
A little MORE information would be necessary... But just the association of the names 'tractors' and 'Benin' already indicates a strong probability of a scam... All that's missing is the colorful Western Union to form the Holy Trinity of the Kingdom of Scams..
In any case, as advised above, stop everything and provide additional information..
BE CAREFUL!!!
A little MORE information would be necessary... But just the association of the names 'tractors' and 'Benin' already indicates a strong probability of a scam... All that's missing is the colorful Western Union to form the Holy Trinity of the Kingdom of Scams..
In any case, as advised above, stop everything and provide additional information..
BE CAREFUL!!!
Good evening Mr
Following our phone conversation, I am providing you with the complete details of my machine and its characteristics, as well as the reasons for my sale.
Type: Micro tractor
Brand: John Deere
Model: 4115
Estimated year: 2004
Description
CHARGEUR COCHET CH30
1 - My tractor has over 30 HP
2 - Rear lift: yes
3 - A fork at the front: yes
4 - The machine is in very good working condition
and like new as I bought it in Germany
on promotion 8 months ago at a reduced price, which I brought back to France where I registered
the paperwork in my name, hence I am the owner.
Since I am an entrepreneur and currently working there, I planned to send it to TOGO through a transport company that quoted me a very high price. So I decided to sell it for €4000, whereas my promotional purchase price in Germany was €7200.
5 - For your acquisition as soon as possible
it's simple:
You just need to give me your delivery address, first name, last name, and phone number. I will take care of forwarding that to the transporter who will contact you to arrange a delivery date to your provided address. I inform you that the delivery costs are already covered before my departure, and after your purchase, you will not have any additional costs to anticipate for this equipment.
6 - Payment will be in cash to the transporter upon delivery at your delivery address.
Thank you for getting back to me and providing the delivery address so I can forward it to the transporter who will contact you to set a delivery date.
NB: I tried to respond to you from my email but the messages don’t go through. So I used my cousin's account and I would like you to respond directly to this email.
Mr. Mercier Nicolas .
Construction Entrepreneur.
Tel: 0022 998 68 73 25
TOGO-LOME
Following our phone conversation, I am providing you with the complete details of my machine and its characteristics, as well as the reasons for my sale.
Type: Micro tractor
Brand: John Deere
Model: 4115
Estimated year: 2004
Description
CHARGEUR COCHET CH30
1 - My tractor has over 30 HP
2 - Rear lift: yes
3 - A fork at the front: yes
4 - The machine is in very good working condition
and like new as I bought it in Germany
on promotion 8 months ago at a reduced price, which I brought back to France where I registered
the paperwork in my name, hence I am the owner.
Since I am an entrepreneur and currently working there, I planned to send it to TOGO through a transport company that quoted me a very high price. So I decided to sell it for €4000, whereas my promotional purchase price in Germany was €7200.
5 - For your acquisition as soon as possible
it's simple:
You just need to give me your delivery address, first name, last name, and phone number. I will take care of forwarding that to the transporter who will contact you to arrange a delivery date to your provided address. I inform you that the delivery costs are already covered before my departure, and after your purchase, you will not have any additional costs to anticipate for this equipment.
6 - Payment will be in cash to the transporter upon delivery at your delivery address.
Thank you for getting back to me and providing the delivery address so I can forward it to the transporter who will contact you to set a delivery date.
NB: I tried to respond to you from my email but the messages don’t go through. So I used my cousin's account and I would like you to respond directly to this email.
Mr. Mercier Nicolas .
Construction Entrepreneur.
Tel: 0022 998 68 73 25
TOGO-LOME
scam sure, I gave 4000 euros to a crook who was selling a John Deere in Benin to have it repatriated to France, he was selling it to me for 15000 euros, a so-called guy who had set up a project over there and had made it happen, I paid for the transport by boat via Marseille, with a port invoice in support. They are very good, fake papers, non-pledged papers, seller's passport, all fake. He put me under a spell. I filed a complaint, but nothing to do.
Do not buy abroad, in France yes but go and see the engine yourself.
Do not buy abroad, in France yes but go and see the engine yourself.
Hello, I also found an ad on agricole.com, Miss Virginie Danois who was giving away her John Deere 6510 tractor for free to anyone who would pay the transportation costs of 1850 euros since it is in
a shipping company in Benin. They sent me an email with a copy of the registration certificate, a copy of the identity card,
a photo of the tractor (in the background there are poplars and oaks), it's strange, it looks like the vegetation
from our place. She provided her address: rue des pins in Rennes (35) which does not exist and a phone number
that doesn't exist either, but the craziest part is that they left a message yesterday saying that it was:
Chronopost Africa that they have a package in my name and that we need to settle the formalities (make a transfer
via Western Union of 1850 euros) and 5 days later I would receive my package (after all, it could be a miniature tractor)
BEWARE OF ALL OFFERS FOR VEHICLES: TRACTOR, CAR, CAMPER, FREE, IT'S A SCAM.
Good luck to everyone and have a great end of the year.
a shipping company in Benin. They sent me an email with a copy of the registration certificate, a copy of the identity card,
a photo of the tractor (in the background there are poplars and oaks), it's strange, it looks like the vegetation
from our place. She provided her address: rue des pins in Rennes (35) which does not exist and a phone number
that doesn't exist either, but the craziest part is that they left a message yesterday saying that it was:
Chronopost Africa that they have a package in my name and that we need to settle the formalities (make a transfer
via Western Union of 1850 euros) and 5 days later I would receive my package (after all, it could be a miniature tractor)
BEWARE OF ALL OFFERS FOR VEHICLES: TRACTOR, CAR, CAMPER, FREE, IT'S A SCAM.
Good luck to everyone and have a great end of the year.
I inform you that everything that comes from abroad is a scam, be careful. For your information, there is a site where you can report all these scams, and they will be monitored by computer surveillance, a site from the gendarmerie or police, at télécharger.com police or gendarmerie to report these scams. Spread the word. Be careful with all these kinds of transactions.
I almost got scammed too.
For a Kubota micro tractor for €0
The donation is still valid
We are offering it because my husband brought it here to Africa as he acquired a construction site here
We have currently deposited it with a transport agency here that can help you have it shipped.
If you are ready to have it shipped to you, I can put you in contact with them.
Here is their address
chronotransport@mail.com
Tel 0022 993 271 105
THANK YOU FOR REPLYING TO ME
Thank you for your response, I will send an email to the transporter to
know the cost, could you, on your side, provide me with the
characteristics of the tractor: its type, its year, and if possible a full photo.
We acknowledge receipt of your email.
The transportation fees for the tractor from Mrs. Schnell here to Haute Savoie will cost you €850 including tax, customs, insurance, and delivery fees.
If you are ready for shipping, please send us your complete home address so that we can proceed with your registration.
We also take this opportunity to inform you that we have a shipment on Tuesday, January 13th.
PLEASE ACCEPT, SIR, THE EXPRESSION OF OUR MOST DISTINGUISHED REGARDS
I received the transporter's rate, I am very interested, but
now I absolutely need the real photo of the micro tractor, its dimensions, L, W, H, I need to ensure that the tool is in good working condition
because you understand that I cannot go to see it, I need some additional proof.
I am sending you the characteristics
and the current condition of the tractor
Year 2001
The front loader is new and of very high quality
4-wheel drive
discharge height 1.95m
3 CYL DIESEL
We recently checked and overhauled it; I assure you it is in very good mechanical condition, the bodywork is good, and the complete new 3-point system
seat with suspension and height adjustment
Battery has been changed because it is no longer new but it still works
Complete new hydraulic 3-point system
REGARDS
So far nothing unusual, except that in the photo the said tractor is on a beautiful lawn surrounded by trees, birch, conifer, hornbeam, very typical vegetation, for a tool that is supposedly in Africa this is starting to get suspicious, but I continue,
We have proceeded with your registration in case you are ready for shipment
As we explained, we have a shipment for tomorrow January 13, 2009
Here is your registration that has been completed.
TRANSPORT CHRONO SERVICE
WE HAVE JUST COMPLETED YOUR REGISTRATION
REGISTRATION
REGISTRATION OF A TRACTOR DESTINED FOR FRANCE IN THE NAME OF:
NAME: DECERIER
FIRST NAME: Christophe
ADDRESS: HAUTE Savoie, PERS-JUSSY
DATE OF EMBARKATION: 12/01/2009
DATE OF ARRIVAL: 22/01/2009
CUSTOMS FEES: €350
INSURANCE FEES: €200
DELIVERY FEES: €300
TOTAL FEES: €850
MODE OF PAYMENT
PAYMENT IS MADE AT THE POST OFFICE VIA A WESTERN UNION MANDATE.
THE MANDATE IS TO BE MADE IN THE NAME OF OUR FINANCIAL DIRECTOR
NAME: AMOUSSA
First Name: Mohamed
Address: 14 rue des armées
CITY: Lomé
COUNTRY: TOGO
AFTER MAKING THE MANDATE, YOU SEND US THE TRANSFER REFERENCES, THAT IS THE 10-DIGIT MTCN CODE AS WELL AS THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS YOU WOULD HAVE CHOSEN TO MAKE THE TRANSFER.
THANK YOU
NB: Please inform us as soon as you have made the transfer so we can quickly start the necessary procedures
CHRONO TRANSPORT INTERNATIONAL TO SERVE YOU 24/7
I received the email at 4:23 PM, then since I had left my mobile number, at 4:40 PM, a call from a man, certainly of color, speaking very poorly in French, asking me to respond quickly to his email, I replied:
Please wait, here the post offices are already closed.
Thank you
As if by enchantment, another email quickly followed:
TRANSPORT CHRONO SERVICE
We acknowledge receipt of your email
Please do so tomorrow morning early so we can quickly start the customs formalities
Because the tractor will be dropped off at the port tonight.
THANK YOU
I searched the internet to see if the company exists and where its headquarters is, chrono transport europe, its headquarters is in Paris, I called them, they said they were very surprised and did not know of any others in the world.
I then went to its forum sites and realized that all my energy in my search was A BIG SCAM, it really pisses me off that assholes can do this to honest people..........
Again, thank you to all those who post their messages, be careful.
For a Kubota micro tractor for €0
The donation is still valid
We are offering it because my husband brought it here to Africa as he acquired a construction site here
We have currently deposited it with a transport agency here that can help you have it shipped.
If you are ready to have it shipped to you, I can put you in contact with them.
Here is their address
chronotransport@mail.com
Tel 0022 993 271 105
THANK YOU FOR REPLYING TO ME
Thank you for your response, I will send an email to the transporter to
know the cost, could you, on your side, provide me with the
characteristics of the tractor: its type, its year, and if possible a full photo.
We acknowledge receipt of your email.
The transportation fees for the tractor from Mrs. Schnell here to Haute Savoie will cost you €850 including tax, customs, insurance, and delivery fees.
If you are ready for shipping, please send us your complete home address so that we can proceed with your registration.
We also take this opportunity to inform you that we have a shipment on Tuesday, January 13th.
PLEASE ACCEPT, SIR, THE EXPRESSION OF OUR MOST DISTINGUISHED REGARDS
I received the transporter's rate, I am very interested, but
now I absolutely need the real photo of the micro tractor, its dimensions, L, W, H, I need to ensure that the tool is in good working condition
because you understand that I cannot go to see it, I need some additional proof.
I am sending you the characteristics
and the current condition of the tractor
Year 2001
The front loader is new and of very high quality
4-wheel drive
discharge height 1.95m
3 CYL DIESEL
We recently checked and overhauled it; I assure you it is in very good mechanical condition, the bodywork is good, and the complete new 3-point system
seat with suspension and height adjustment
Battery has been changed because it is no longer new but it still works
Complete new hydraulic 3-point system
REGARDS
So far nothing unusual, except that in the photo the said tractor is on a beautiful lawn surrounded by trees, birch, conifer, hornbeam, very typical vegetation, for a tool that is supposedly in Africa this is starting to get suspicious, but I continue,
We have proceeded with your registration in case you are ready for shipment
As we explained, we have a shipment for tomorrow January 13, 2009
Here is your registration that has been completed.
TRANSPORT CHRONO SERVICE
WE HAVE JUST COMPLETED YOUR REGISTRATION
REGISTRATION
REGISTRATION OF A TRACTOR DESTINED FOR FRANCE IN THE NAME OF:
NAME: DECERIER
FIRST NAME: Christophe
ADDRESS: HAUTE Savoie, PERS-JUSSY
DATE OF EMBARKATION: 12/01/2009
DATE OF ARRIVAL: 22/01/2009
CUSTOMS FEES: €350
INSURANCE FEES: €200
DELIVERY FEES: €300
TOTAL FEES: €850
MODE OF PAYMENT
PAYMENT IS MADE AT THE POST OFFICE VIA A WESTERN UNION MANDATE.
THE MANDATE IS TO BE MADE IN THE NAME OF OUR FINANCIAL DIRECTOR
NAME: AMOUSSA
First Name: Mohamed
Address: 14 rue des armées
CITY: Lomé
COUNTRY: TOGO
AFTER MAKING THE MANDATE, YOU SEND US THE TRANSFER REFERENCES, THAT IS THE 10-DIGIT MTCN CODE AS WELL AS THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS YOU WOULD HAVE CHOSEN TO MAKE THE TRANSFER.
THANK YOU
NB: Please inform us as soon as you have made the transfer so we can quickly start the necessary procedures
CHRONO TRANSPORT INTERNATIONAL TO SERVE YOU 24/7
I received the email at 4:23 PM, then since I had left my mobile number, at 4:40 PM, a call from a man, certainly of color, speaking very poorly in French, asking me to respond quickly to his email, I replied:
Please wait, here the post offices are already closed.
Thank you
As if by enchantment, another email quickly followed:
TRANSPORT CHRONO SERVICE
We acknowledge receipt of your email
Please do so tomorrow morning early so we can quickly start the customs formalities
Because the tractor will be dropped off at the port tonight.
THANK YOU
I searched the internet to see if the company exists and where its headquarters is, chrono transport europe, its headquarters is in Paris, I called them, they said they were very surprised and did not know of any others in the world.
I then went to its forum sites and realized that all my energy in my search was A BIG SCAM, it really pisses me off that assholes can do this to honest people..........
Again, thank you to all those who post their messages, be careful.
On the new reporting site:
Tel: 0811.02.02.17.
or
https://www.internet-signalement.gouv.fr/PortailWeb/planets/Accueil!input.action
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Please mention the email addresses of these scammers
We will make good use of them (blacklists)
Tel: 0811.02.02.17.
or
https://www.internet-signalement.gouv.fr/PortailWeb/planets/Accueil!input.action
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Please mention the email addresses of these scammers
We will make good use of them (blacklists)
Hello,
Those working in the agricultural sector are the new targets of scammers. Be wary of enticing offers regarding tractors and other agricultural equipment.
Also see this discussion that reveals a bit about what’s going on http://www.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich 5089477 new scam from England
A tractor that you can't see because it's located in Spain with a private seller, marketed by a "company in England," etc... etc... The mcm-exports site is closed!!
Great caution!!!
Best regards
Allmandia
Those working in the agricultural sector are the new targets of scammers. Be wary of enticing offers regarding tractors and other agricultural equipment.
Also see this discussion that reveals a bit about what’s going on http://www.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich 5089477 new scam from England
A tractor that you can't see because it's located in Spain with a private seller, marketed by a "company in England," etc... etc... The mcm-exports site is closed!!
Great caution!!!
Best regards
Allmandia
specially don't buy if you have given money, it is lost, they get paid by Western Union cash that is transferred. They are at the forefront of advanced scams, I have fallen victim to it, I who thought they were a developing country, they are at the forefront of progress in computing and fake documents.
I also saw this enticing ad in the Sud-Ouest newspaper!!
I got in touch with the famous lelievr25, the donor of this magnificent John Deere 7710. We exchanged a couple of emails, but I started to sense the scam. Supposedly, he couldn't call me, so it was up to me to do so, and the country code before the number was 00229, which is Benin. So I stopped everything out of fear of getting scammed. Unfortunately, I see that some have gone further; it's a shame.
FARMERS, YOU KNOW THE VALUE OF WORKING THE LAND AND ITS TOOLS, SO: BE CAREFUL WITH OFFERS THAT SEEM TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE.
I got in touch with the famous lelievr25, the donor of this magnificent John Deere 7710. We exchanged a couple of emails, but I started to sense the scam. Supposedly, he couldn't call me, so it was up to me to do so, and the country code before the number was 00229, which is Benin. So I stopped everything out of fear of getting scammed. Unfortunately, I see that some have gone further; it's a shame.
FARMERS, YOU KNOW THE VALUE OF WORKING THE LAND AND ITS TOOLS, SO: BE CAREFUL WITH OFFERS THAT SEEM TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE.
NOTHING!
https://www.mesopinions.com/petition/
If that were the case, this forum wouldn't exist!
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PLEASE MENTION THE EMAIL ADDRESSES AND PHONE NUMBERS OF THESE SCAMMERS
We will make good use of them (Blacklists)
https://www.mesopinions.com/petition/
If that were the case, this forum wouldn't exist!
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PLEASE MENTION THE EMAIL ADDRESSES AND PHONE NUMBERS OF THESE SCAMMERS
We will make good use of them (Blacklists)
Examples of discussions with testimonies of scams on agricultural equipment: http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&client=firefox a&rls=org.mozilla:fr:official&hs=1G2&q=+site:www.commentcamarche.net+ccm+arnaque+tracteur
Yes, it's a scam. I contacted them and realized it was a scam because the photos didn't match, and I searched for these photos on agricultural websites in the USA, and they were from American or Canadian dealers. Be careful with the ads published on "annonce agricole.com".
Hello Chris, in response to your message regarding your friend, I can only advise him to seek an international lawyer after filing a complaint. I stopped everything before making the transfer and the guy from Benin called me one evening. I scolded him, telling him that I knew his scam, that I had been on blogs about "tractor scams in Benin". Of course, he denied it. I inquired at the fraud inspection office, but they can't do anything since it's in Benin, and they just told me to get an international lawyer. We'll have to see the amount of fees to determine if it's worthwhile, but I think all the affected people should unite and hire a single lawyer to represent them.
I hope I have answered your questions, and I wish you good luck.
I hope I have answered your questions, and I wish you good luck.
Hello sir, I too have fallen victim to this kind of scam. I bought a John Deere in Togo, a 5820 from 2007 with 100 hours on it. There were photos, and we went through a shipping company... the classic trick. I paid for the shipping, the tractor, and supposedly some customs fees, only to realize it was a scam. I am a young farmer and I was the perfect target. I lost 7,300 euros. If you want to hire a lawyer, I am by your side.
Bonsoir, I had posted an ad because I was looking for a used tractor to work in the woods. Shortly after, I received an email from a man who supposedly calls himself Ftatin Jerry and who lives in Benin, specifically in Cotonou. He was donating his tractor that he had won in a competition in 2005. This tractor is a John Deere 7920 red, whereas after reflection, John Deere is usually yellow, but I told myself that maybe he had released a new model. I contacted this famous Flatin online; at first, he asked me to pay the shipping costs, which amounted to 150 euros, because the tractor was in England with a delivery person. Being naturally suspicious, I suggested paying half (75 euros) and giving the other half to the driver when the tractor arrived in front of my house, which he accepted after very long negotiations. The next day, he called me and announced that the driver had been stopped by customs in Lille, France, and that I needed to pay an additional 300 euros if I wanted to get the tractor, which I naturally refused. Half was okay, but no more. He agreed to cover 150 euros supposedly out of his pocket, but I had to pay the other 150 euros always by postal money order. Now I just returned from New Year's Eve and I tell myself that I will call this man, and there is no answer. So I called the driver in England who told me that he did get stopped by customs in Lille but that he is with his family for the New Year, but Flatin has not received the last money order of 150 euros, whereas I myself have checked with Western Union in Brussels who confirmed to me that the money order had indeed been sent to Cotonou. In short, it's been since December 30th that I've been waiting for this famous tractor. Furthermore, he gave me his phone number and the driver’s, but if I do not have the goods by Saturday noon, I will take my measures, but he will hear from me. I have very high connections in the government. I wanted to start my own business, and this is quite the start.
While searching for a mini-tractor, I compared photos and ads.... We can cross-reference.... of course, it’s a scam.... who has information about the company virtus.ltd? in London.... a photo of the John Deere mini-tractors looks strangely similar to an identical photo from ANNAGRI... John Deere 4115 24hp 2005... whose seller is also selling a kubota 1502 M on MARCHE.fr... and what to think about the donation of my New-Holland tractor, by Agathe, on VIVASTREET, whose photo IS THE SAME as the New-Holland from "claudedubois98@yahoo.fr"? Come on, send me SH.... all these crooks! what is the police doing? good scam!
Hi, we too, especially my husband, almost fell for the same issue regarding the lawn tractor. Yes, because the people selling them say they've moved to Benin in Africa because of work. Then we get a problem regarding a cesarean. Complete nonsense. And suddenly, when you ask them why the ad is posted in the South and the delivery is from Paris, and then the mandate we absolutely have to do must be addressed to another person in Benin, it's not normal. Because when you receive an email from them, there's one name, but for the mandate, it's another, and besides, with the Western Union mandate, it's better to be wary. On top of that, the person dares to tell me that they trusted me; isn't it rather me? I’m the buyer, can they guarantee the delivery of the product? No? For example, they also say they have cousins or brothers in Toulouse, you offer to deliver the product to their family so we can see it. No, because it’s not possible, the delivery person can’t, what nonsense. But anyway, to tell you the most they talk about is the mandate; that's all that comes out of their mouths. And it all happens surprisingly when the weekend arrives to rush to make this mandate. But beware, even if the delivery person comes to your place maybe with the product, they will find all means for you to give the mandate code before showing you the product. Total nonsense. DO NOT DO ANYTHING WHEN IT COMES TO PAYING BY MANDATE because it’s a scam.
Hello.
Very likely a scam when sending money to a stranger.. It's like giving cash in an envelope!
The W.U system is there to make transfers to people you know (family, friends...) quickly in case of emergency.. Also to send funds to family when there's no other way to do it (migrant workers..).
Any commercial transaction is prohibited!
A scammer can withdraw funds WITHOUT having the 'code' (MTCN)... Corruption among some W.U agents, no identity checks, 'secret question' omitted etc......
So be careful! Using W.U without precautions can hurt your wallet..
Beware!!
Very likely a scam when sending money to a stranger.. It's like giving cash in an envelope!
The W.U system is there to make transfers to people you know (family, friends...) quickly in case of emergency.. Also to send funds to family when there's no other way to do it (migrant workers..).
Any commercial transaction is prohibited!
A scammer can withdraw funds WITHOUT having the 'code' (MTCN)... Corruption among some W.U agents, no identity checks, 'secret question' omitted etc......
So be careful! Using W.U without precautions can hurt your wallet..
Beware!!
I also fell for a scam regarding the moiss' batt' in Benin. I read the attached ad:
http://www.annonces-agricoles.com/AAnew/detail.php?CODE=aeb34ad45ef0396ecbb780002f03bd0c
and I spoke on the phone and via email with a guy named supposedly Lionel DA COSTA. After reading the forum, I didn't give in, sensing the scam.
Thank you all.
http://www.annonces-agricoles.com/AAnew/detail.php?CODE=aeb34ad45ef0396ecbb780002f03bd0c
and I spoke on the phone and via email with a guy named supposedly Lionel DA COSTA. After reading the forum, I didn't give in, sensing the scam.
Thank you all.
I was looking for a lawn tractor where the girl was in Benin but the tractor was in Brest. She needed money to take care of her son and was selling it for €700. I negotiated down to €500 and then to €300, and then I noticed the scam, so I dropped it. I had to pay in Benin.
Here's her email:
The payment of €300 by a Western Union money transfer and at the same time you send me your details, meaning your full name, complete address, and your phone number so that once I have the money, I can go to the transport agency to register the tractor in your name, and once that’s done, you will be in contact with the transport agency to agree on a time for delivery.
Here is the payment address she provided me:
Name: TCHANHOUN
First Names: Sédjro Genesse Rostan
Postal Code: 00229
City: Cotonou
Country: Benin
125 Avenue de la Francophonie.
Please also send me your details.
Here's her email:
The payment of €300 by a Western Union money transfer and at the same time you send me your details, meaning your full name, complete address, and your phone number so that once I have the money, I can go to the transport agency to register the tractor in your name, and once that’s done, you will be in contact with the transport agency to agree on a time for delivery.
Here is the payment address she provided me:
Name: TCHANHOUN
First Names: Sédjro Genesse Rostan
Postal Code: 00229
City: Cotonou
Country: Benin
125 Avenue de la Francophonie.
Please also send me your details.
Yes, it's a scam, especially don't send any money, they will always ask you for more and you will
never get the equipment!
It's too good to be true ..........
You can never get equipment at those prices!
Can you imagine the shipping costs!
Already in our country, you have to account for 500 to 600€ excluding tax for shipping
And no one gives anything away! Everyone sells except for a few bits and pieces among friends.
But not equipment ...........
Best regards