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flavio2003 Posted messages 2 Status Membre -  
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Hello,
I am looking for software to learn Portuguese, preferably free
thank you in advance
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Mimi
 
Hello

As a French woman involved with a Portuguese descendant, I've tried quite a few things. Honestly, for those who really want to learn, I recommend "Le nouveau portugais sans peine" from the Assimil method (book + CD, 55€ at FNAC), complete and effective without being tedious. With serious work and no prior knowledge, expect at least 6 months to finish the book at a rate of 30 minutes a day as intended. For the level achieved, it's worth it; the test I took on http://ww12.dialang.org places me between B1 and B2 depending on the areas tested. By halfway through the book, you can already manage.

After that, don’t settle for just anything; you would be quickly disappointed:
Talk More CD-ROM: useless (set phrases and quite simple), the Assimil conversation guide (possible with audio CD) is more complete.
World Talk CD-ROM: interesting but too easy (my first score was 1860 points/2000), good for developing oral comprehension and varying the learning (watch out, my version had a bug; a file was missing on the CD, in this case, copy the CD to the hard drive and then where the file is missing, copy tva64_2b.aif and rename it tva64_2a.aif, play now from the hard drive).
Galatéa CD-ROM, I didn’t learn anything more; at best, it’s good for texts with audio parts and reviewing grammar.
Book + CD Voie Express from Nathan, we study an original story and the basics of Portuguese. I started with that before the Assimil method; it is really introductory, not useful if you want a better level than survival in Lusophone territory.

In books, I have "Le Portugais de A à Z" (the explanations with examples suit me, but the inevitable cross-references annoy me a bit), "Du mot à la phrase: vocabulaire portugais contemporain" (the thematic classification is practical), "Pratiquez le portugais en 40 leçons" from Pocket (interesting texts and dialogues, too bad there is no audio CD), "Contes et chroniques d'expression portugaise" (bilingual at Pocket, bookseller's advice: first read in French the paragraph or the page and then in Portuguese).

Today, I'm interested in these CD-ROMs that I haven't bought yet, so I'm not discussing them; if anyone knows about them, I would appreciate their opinion; too expensive, they should normally be at -20% on Webbom at Christmas:
http://www.webboom.pt/ficha.asp?ArtID=75331
http://www.fca.pt/lidel_index2.html

For free stuff on the internet, I've also found something nice:
https://www.escolavirtual.pt/Alunos-e-Pais/pre.htm (these are things for children and teenagers, but there are stories with audio parts)
there's also the Camões Institute, which is very good, especially http://www.instituto-camoes.pt/cvc/aprender-portugues/a-ler.html
Also, think about the websites of Portuguese press as well as TV channels (SIC and RTPi).
Other interesting things:
http://etablissements.ac-amiens.fr/0601178e/quadriphonie/spip.php?rubrique22 (at the Rendez-vous d'Anatol)
http://www.kiosketudiant.com/ (register and search for "Annales Précis de Portugais", free)

Even after finishing my Assimil or Voie Express method, I regularly re-listen to the texts like music just to get my ears used to it and not lose the level. I think it pays off because my understanding of information on TV or conversations when people articulate well has significantly improved.

There you go, it’s a bit long but I hope this gives you new learning pathways.

Good luck and enjoy what this culture will bring you.
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Jean Mi
 
Thank you very much, Mimi, for your analysis and feedback.
It's very nice of you.
I will therefore try the Assimil method. I am moving to Brazil for 2 years in 4 months. And I don't know anything about it. I understand and speak a little Spanish (school level).

Thanks again!

Jean Michel
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Mimi > Jean Mi
 
Hello Jean-Michel

Brazilian Portuguese has some slight differences in vocabulary and the accent is more "singing". There are also sounds or words that are not pronounced the same way (nothing serious, Brazilians and Portuguese understand each other).

The Assimil method also publishes "Brazilian without Pain" with CDs, it might be better in your case. http://wpc3123.amenworld.com/indexfr.jsp?paramIdPartenaire=-1
http://livre.fnac.com/a1968066/Marie-Pierre-Legriel-Le-bresilien-sans-peine?Mn=-1&Ra=-1&To=0&Nu=1&Fr=0
In stores, it should normally be the same price, check if there isn't a "-20%" tag.

In 4 months, even if your study is not finished, your level will be sufficient for you to express yourself and at least understand people who don't speak too fast while articulating well. It is possible that your knowledge of Spanish will help, because I know that in the other direction my Portuguese friend can understand Spanish quite well. Moreover, once immersed, you will surely progress very quickly.

Good luck and have a great trip!
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