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RAPPEL :
1) Ils repèrent une annonce réelle et prennent contact avec le vendeur (réel) en se faisant passer pour acheteur.
2) Ils demandent les copies de documents (carte grise, photo, identité des vendeurs... bref, tout ce qui pourra leur servir à justifier de leur fausse identité).
3) Ensuite, ils passent une annonce identique (au nom du vrai vendeur) à un prix attractif et vendent cette voiture (ou n'importe quoi d'autre) dont ils ne possèdent que des photos à tous ceux qui les contactent.
4) Pour finir, ils n'ont plus qu'à retirer l'argent envoyé (pas de vérification d'identité pour les retraits de mandats internationaux Western Union dans certains pays).
Autres variantes :
Marchandise bloquée en douane (ou autre accident de parcours) : </gras>le paquet coincé en douane et demande par un faux douanier ou faux transporteur d'envoyer un virement en règlement de frais pour débloquer l'envoi.
La victime est le "vendeur" :
- L'escroc envoi un faux chèque ou affirme avoir fait un virement d'un montant trop élevé (faux mail de banque qui vous confirme que ce virement est fait)
- il vous contacte pour vous demander le remboursement par Western Union (ou autre) du trop-perçu... puis, 15 jours après, le chèque initial s'avère faux et le montant décrédité du compte.
Ou encore : vous recevez un mail "officiel" vous demandant de payer des frais pour débloquer la somme.
Avertissement de Western Union :
https://www.westernunion.com/fr/fr/home.html
Avertissements sur eBay :
http://avis-membres.ebay.fr/Une-arnaque-frequente-sur-eBay_W0QQugidZ10000000001604877
http://avis-membres.ebay.fr/LES-VOLEURS-SUR-EBAY-COMMENT-FAIRE_W0QQugidZ10000000002065654
http://avis-membres.ebay.fr/Voiture-a-l-apos-etranger-attention-aux-arnaques_W0QQugidZ10000000001212428
Toutes les témoignages à ce sujet : https://forums.commentcamarche.net/forum/s/arnaque?forum_num=17&imageField_x=59&imageField_y=13
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RAPPEL :
1) Ils repèrent une annonce réelle et prennent contact avec le vendeur (réel) en se faisant passer pour acheteur.
2) Ils demandent les copies de documents (carte grise, photo, identité des vendeurs... bref, tout ce qui pourra leur servir à justifier de leur fausse identité).
3) Ensuite, ils passent une annonce identique (au nom du vrai vendeur) à un prix attractif et vendent cette voiture (ou n'importe quoi d'autre) dont ils ne possèdent que des photos à tous ceux qui les contactent.
4) Pour finir, ils n'ont plus qu'à retirer l'argent envoyé (pas de vérification d'identité pour les retraits de mandats internationaux Western Union dans certains pays).
Autres variantes :
Marchandise bloquée en douane (ou autre accident de parcours) : </gras>le paquet coincé en douane et demande par un faux douanier ou faux transporteur d'envoyer un virement en règlement de frais pour débloquer l'envoi.
La victime est le "vendeur" :
- L'escroc envoi un faux chèque ou affirme avoir fait un virement d'un montant trop élevé (faux mail de banque qui vous confirme que ce virement est fait)
- il vous contacte pour vous demander le remboursement par Western Union (ou autre) du trop-perçu... puis, 15 jours après, le chèque initial s'avère faux et le montant décrédité du compte.
Ou encore : vous recevez un mail "officiel" vous demandant de payer des frais pour débloquer la somme.
Avertissement de Western Union :
https://www.westernunion.com/fr/fr/home.html
Avertissements sur eBay :
http://avis-membres.ebay.fr/Une-arnaque-frequente-sur-eBay_W0QQugidZ10000000001604877
http://avis-membres.ebay.fr/LES-VOLEURS-SUR-EBAY-COMMENT-FAIRE_W0QQugidZ10000000002065654
http://avis-membres.ebay.fr/Voiture-a-l-apos-etranger-attention-aux-arnaques_W0QQugidZ10000000001212428
Toutes les témoignages à ce sujet : https://forums.commentcamarche.net/forum/s/arnaque?forum_num=17&imageField_x=59&imageField_y=13
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bonjour
je suis en train de me renseigner sur la fameuse voiture a vendre sur mobile. deet le gas en question a "l air" serieux .. je voudrait savoir si vous avez des info reel sur le faite qu il s agit d une arnaque car il es vrai que le prix es un peu exagerez. je suis en contacte avec lui depuis quelque jour jour et les info on l air sincere ainsi que le mode de paiment qui ne peut pas etre une arnaque etan donner que je serai le seul sur place a pouvoir retirez cette argent.. donnez moi plus d ionfo si vous en avez eu pour que je sache si je doit continuer ou pas .
en vous remerciant j espere avoir de vos nouvelle rapidement.
cordialement.
je suis en train de me renseigner sur la fameuse voiture a vendre sur mobile. deet le gas en question a "l air" serieux .. je voudrait savoir si vous avez des info reel sur le faite qu il s agit d une arnaque car il es vrai que le prix es un peu exagerez. je suis en contacte avec lui depuis quelque jour jour et les info on l air sincere ainsi que le mode de paiment qui ne peut pas etre une arnaque etan donner que je serai le seul sur place a pouvoir retirez cette argent.. donnez moi plus d ionfo si vous en avez eu pour que je sache si je doit continuer ou pas .
en vous remerciant j espere avoir de vos nouvelle rapidement.
cordialement.
Bonjour, je suis victime de cette aranque sauf pour une autre voiture: smart roadster brabus affiche a 4900 €. Vendue a bas prix parce que ancien collaborateur de smart en RFA et difficulte de pilotage en Angletterre ou reside l'escroc
L'individu attend a proximite de la western union pour retirer les fonds alors que d'apres ces ecrits il travaille en Norvege,J'ai porte pleinte et me demande si la WU n'est pas complice.
Un ami qui s'est informe sur le cas m'a affirme que cette homme utilise les annonces d'autres personnes inssit que leurs cliches. J'ai perdu 4900 € en un clic =(.Attention ne vs fetes pas avoir
L'individu attend a proximite de la western union pour retirer les fonds alors que d'apres ces ecrits il travaille en Norvege,J'ai porte pleinte et me demande si la WU n'est pas complice.
Un ami qui s'est informe sur le cas m'a affirme que cette homme utilise les annonces d'autres personnes inssit que leurs cliches. J'ai perdu 4900 € en un clic =(.Attention ne vs fetes pas avoir
c'est vrai ca sent l'arnaque et d'ailleurs il y'en a plusieurs sur mobile.de voila un de ces mails :
Re: BMW 525D AUT - 5600 EUR
Hello again,
I want to let you know the car has German papers with TUV certificate
and all the taxes paid. Comparing it with other cars,
the price is a little bit low and I am aware of it, that's why I need to
explain it to you: it has the steering wheel on the
left side making driving hard for me in UK, so I have to to sell it in
another country. I have a friend who speaks a little bit
German and he helped me placing the Internet ad on www.mobile.de, he
told me that I will sell the car on this web site in no time.
I got the car for 7 months following my divorce, my ex wife kept the
Volvo so she had to buy me a car, this one( I suppose she considered
funny buying a left sided car for me to drive it in a right sided
country). I'm not an expert on cars but I can ensure you that it is in
perfect conditions and it never had any problems with the engine, it has
never been crashed and the maintenance was made by authorized
service, the service book confirms it. I would very much like to make
this deal in person, but it will be very hard because I have a
lot of work to do in Norway ( the company I work for opens a new branch
there and it seems I am the only capable branch manager they have).
Don't worry, the car remained in London. It is hard for me to skip work
now, so I need ensurance that you will come to London, in case you
decide you want to buy the car. So if you are interested in purchasing
my car, please let me know.
I wish you a nice day,
Peter James Crumm
23 Old Gloucester Street, London, , WC1N 3AF
Re: BMW 525D AUT - 5600 EUR
Hello again,
I want to let you know the car has German papers with TUV certificate
and all the taxes paid. Comparing it with other cars,
the price is a little bit low and I am aware of it, that's why I need to
explain it to you: it has the steering wheel on the
left side making driving hard for me in UK, so I have to to sell it in
another country. I have a friend who speaks a little bit
German and he helped me placing the Internet ad on www.mobile.de, he
told me that I will sell the car on this web site in no time.
I got the car for 7 months following my divorce, my ex wife kept the
Volvo so she had to buy me a car, this one( I suppose she considered
funny buying a left sided car for me to drive it in a right sided
country). I'm not an expert on cars but I can ensure you that it is in
perfect conditions and it never had any problems with the engine, it has
never been crashed and the maintenance was made by authorized
service, the service book confirms it. I would very much like to make
this deal in person, but it will be very hard because I have a
lot of work to do in Norway ( the company I work for opens a new branch
there and it seems I am the only capable branch manager they have).
Don't worry, the car remained in London. It is hard for me to skip work
now, so I need ensurance that you will come to London, in case you
decide you want to buy the car. So if you are interested in purchasing
my car, please let me know.
I wish you a nice day,
Peter James Crumm
23 Old Gloucester Street, London, , WC1N 3AF
Hello again,
I want to let you know the car has German papers ( German license plates "Fahrzeugschein" , "Fahrzeugbrief" ) with TUV certificate and all the taxes paid including COC ( certificate of conformity ). Comparing it with other cars, the price is a little bit low and I am aware of it, that's why I need to explain it to you: it has the steering wheel on the left side making driving hard for me in UK, so I have to to sell it in another country. I have a friend who speaks a little bit German and he helped me placing the Internet ad on www.mobile.de, he told me that I will sell the car on this web site in no time. I got the car for few months ago following my divorce, my ex husband kept the Volvo so he had to buy me a car, this one( I suppose he considered funny buying a left sided car for me to drive it in a right sided country). I'm not an expert on cars but I can ensure you that it is in perfect conditions and it never had any problems with the engine, it has never been crashed and the maintenance was made by authorized service, the service book confirms it. I would very much like to make this deal in person, but it will be very hard because I have a lot of work to do in Norway ( the company I work for opens a new branch there and it seems I am the only capable branch manager they have). Don't worry, the car remained in London. It is hard for me to skip work now, so I need ensurance that you will come to London, in case you decide you want to buy the car. So if you are interested in purchasing my car, please let me know.
Best Regards,
Laura Evans
52 Selvage Lane,
London NW7 3SP, UK
VOILA LE MESSAGE KE LON MA ENVOYER.CA SEN LARNAQUE OU PAS?MERCI DE ME REPONDRE
I want to let you know the car has German papers ( German license plates "Fahrzeugschein" , "Fahrzeugbrief" ) with TUV certificate and all the taxes paid including COC ( certificate of conformity ). Comparing it with other cars, the price is a little bit low and I am aware of it, that's why I need to explain it to you: it has the steering wheel on the left side making driving hard for me in UK, so I have to to sell it in another country. I have a friend who speaks a little bit German and he helped me placing the Internet ad on www.mobile.de, he told me that I will sell the car on this web site in no time. I got the car for few months ago following my divorce, my ex husband kept the Volvo so he had to buy me a car, this one( I suppose he considered funny buying a left sided car for me to drive it in a right sided country). I'm not an expert on cars but I can ensure you that it is in perfect conditions and it never had any problems with the engine, it has never been crashed and the maintenance was made by authorized service, the service book confirms it. I would very much like to make this deal in person, but it will be very hard because I have a lot of work to do in Norway ( the company I work for opens a new branch there and it seems I am the only capable branch manager they have). Don't worry, the car remained in London. It is hard for me to skip work now, so I need ensurance that you will come to London, in case you decide you want to buy the car. So if you are interested in purchasing my car, please let me know.
Best Regards,
Laura Evans
52 Selvage Lane,
London NW7 3SP, UK
VOILA LE MESSAGE KE LON MA ENVOYER.CA SEN LARNAQUE OU PAS?MERCI DE ME REPONDRE
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Salut,
le même gars tente de m'arnaquer avec une Nissan 350Z à 5300 euros, sur mobile.de. Le premier truc bizarre c'est que l'annonce a disparu très vite..
La suite en Anglais dans l'ordre antichronologique. Je suis en contact avec le gars et voici l'historique des nos échanges, mon mail date d'il y a 5 minutes. J'ai remplacé mon nom par xxx
Hello Peter,
Don't worry about the payment method for now.
Let's make it in two steps :
First : I come to London to check the car. I don't need to meet you. All you have to do is to find a person that can show me the car and the papers. Then I come back to France. Second : If I am interrested, we make the deal.
You must be aware that a lot of people loose their money by transferring money with western union. Even if the money is transferred to my name, it is possible (although ununderstandable) that another person can take the money.
I confirm that I am very interrested in the car and I am ready to come just to see it, but if you require any money transfert before I have the key of the car and checked the papers..we have no deal. Sorry.
Kind regards.
xxx
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Peter James Crumm [mailto:crummpeter@gmail.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 31 janvier 2008 18:38
À : xxxxxxxxxxx
Objet : Re: RE : RE : NISSAN 350 Z PREMIUM PACK - 5300 EUR
Hello,
Look how we can make this deal , because I have tried to find the best
solution for the both of us. It's very hard for me to take a break from
my work,
but look how we can make this deal: I think that the best solution is
that you will come here in UK and we can make the deal face to face, in
person.
I think this is the best solution for the both of us. But to be sure
that you are a serious person and I will come in UK at home for a real
deal,
you will have to show me that you really have the money for this car and
you are a serious person, and you will come in UK to see the car, and I
will
not take the break from my work for nothing. To show me that you have
the money and you are coming in London even to get your money back, you
will have
to go with a friend at Western Union Service in your city.Your friend
will send the money from his name to your name, in London,UK. This way you can be sure about your money, because only you can pick it
up, in UK(and when you are here, it's simple, because you can take the
money
from Western Union, here in UK, and pay me for the car, in person, with
cash).Please understand that when you will make the
transfer via western union they don't allow you to send the money from
your name to your name in London,United Kingdom(to use the same name as
the sender and the receiver)
because may cause some problems and maybe we will have also problems
when you will be in London and we will pick up the money from their
office and this is the reason that
you must take a friend or relative with you and he will send the money
from his name to your name in London,United Kingdom.The transfer must to
be like this:
sender name : your friend's or your relative's name
sender address : address of your friend or relative
receiver name : here will be your name
receiver address : London , United Kingdom
After you have made the payment by Western Union, you will send me the
scanned receipt ( paper ) they will give you. If the money are OK and
you are the
receiver, in Western Union, in UK, I will take a break from my work, we
will arrange to meet together and you will be able to see the car. You must to understand my point, because I want to be sure that you will
come in United Kingdom and we can have a real deal, not just words. When you will be here in UK, you will see the car , verify the papers
with the Police in London and you can see that is everything is OK. After you see that the car is OK and you decide you want to buy it, we
will make the sale contract and the car will be on your name. After we
have made
the contract, we will go together at Western Union, you will take the
money, since the money are sent to your name and only you can take it,
you will give
me the rest of the money for the car in cash, like I have told you. I
hope that everything is clear and you can make a trip to United Kingdom
so we can
have a real deal. Probably this payment method it is not very familiar
to you, but I have to admit that it is most efficient process to go
through.
I need to tell you something and I hope you can understand me; if you
don't like the car, I will give you back the money for the plane
tickets, and also
I will give you back the fees that you have paid for the transfer by
Western Union.Please consider that Western Union has fees and if you are
bothered by those
I will deduct them from the price of the car.So please reply me soon,
and tell me if we can make the deal!My experience in the sale business
proved to me that quality is the key element to have a successful
business. Good faith and passion for winning has always
been my top priority and my most valued business approach.If you don't
know where you can find Western Union, in your city, please tell me your
city name, and I can find for you a location, where you can go and arrange the payment. Please reply me soon!
Respectfully Yours,
Peter James Crumm
23 Old Gloucester Street, London, , WC1N 3AF
xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>
> Ok, I think I will come one day to London to see the car (thanks to
> Easyjet, it's less than 150€). Maybe next week, or as soon as I can
> skip work. There, I could check the state of the car, the papers, and
> so on. I will probably need to copy the papers of the car to verify
> that I can have them in France later.
> We will also discuss the terms of payment, I have to confess that I will
> only pay by bank transfert to an account to your personnal name.
> Then if everything is OK I'll come back to take the car.
>
> When can I come, who will I meet and where ?
> Do you have a phone number ?
>
> By the way, have you noticed that the ad is not any more on the
> mobile.de site ?
>
> Regards
>
> xxx
>
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Peter James Crumm [mailto:crummpeter@gmail.com]
> Envoyé : dimanche 27 janvier 2008 23:00
> À : xxx
> Objet : Re: RE : NISSAN 350 Z PREMIUM PACK - 5300 EUR
>
>
> Hello again,
>
> The price is 5.300 Euro.The car is a 2004 model with 280HP and 18000
> KM.I want to let you know the car has German papers with TUV
> certificate
>
> and all the taxes paid. Comparing it with other cars,
> the price is a little bit low and I am aware of it, that's why I need
> to
>
> explain it to you: it has the steering wheel on the
> left side making driving hard for me in UK, so I have to to sell it in
> another country. I have a friend who speaks a little bit German and he
> helped me placing the Internet ad on www.mobile.de, he told me that I
> will sell the car on this web site in no time. I got the car for 7
> months following my divorce, my ex wife kept the Volvo so she had to
> buy me a car, this one( I suppose she considered funny buying a left
> sided car for me to drive it in a right sided country). I'm not an
> expert on cars but I can ensure you that it is in perfect conditions
> and it never had any problems with the engine, it has
>
> never been crashed and the maintenance was made by authorized service,
> the service book confirms it. I would very much like to make this deal
> in person, but it will be very hard because I have a lot of work to do
> in Norway ( the company I work for opens a new branch there and it
> seems I am the only capable branch manager they have). Don't worry,
> the car remained in London. It is hard for me to skip work now, so I
> need ensurance that you will come to London, in case you decide you
> want to buy the car. So if you are interested in purchasing my car,
> please let me know.
>
>
>
> I wish you a nice day,
> Peter James Crumm
> 23 Old Gloucester Street, London, , WC1N 3AF
>
>
>
>
>
> xxx wrote:
>
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> I am indeed _very_ interrested in this car, but living in the south
>> of
>>
>
>
>> France I would like to ask some question before I come and see it.
>>
>> How much km has the car ?
>> How much km has the engine ?
>> Is it a first-hand ?
>> Has it been transformed ?
>> What is the price ?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> xxx
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : crummpeter@googlemail.com [mailto:crummpeter@googlemail.com]
>> Envoyé : jeudi 24 janvier 2008 12:38
>> À : xxx
>> Objet : NISSAN 350 Z PREMIUM PACK - 5300 EUR
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>> Thanks a lot for your mail and your kind interest for my car.At first
>> I will promisse you that you will get a top car in top brand new
>> condition. There are no damages and no faults. The car looks like a
>> brand new car comming directly out of the factory. If you see the car
>> you would be very satisfactory - I can promisse it to you warmly. I
>> can understand you that you need more details, but please believe me
>> there is no need
>> - please imagine a brand new car!Enclosed please find further photos.
>> If you are still interested, to buy this car, please contact me back,
>> and I will tell you more about how we can forward with this deal. I
>> wish you a nice week.
>> Respectfully Yours,
>> Peter James Crumm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
le même gars tente de m'arnaquer avec une Nissan 350Z à 5300 euros, sur mobile.de. Le premier truc bizarre c'est que l'annonce a disparu très vite..
La suite en Anglais dans l'ordre antichronologique. Je suis en contact avec le gars et voici l'historique des nos échanges, mon mail date d'il y a 5 minutes. J'ai remplacé mon nom par xxx
Hello Peter,
Don't worry about the payment method for now.
Let's make it in two steps :
First : I come to London to check the car. I don't need to meet you. All you have to do is to find a person that can show me the car and the papers. Then I come back to France. Second : If I am interrested, we make the deal.
You must be aware that a lot of people loose their money by transferring money with western union. Even if the money is transferred to my name, it is possible (although ununderstandable) that another person can take the money.
I confirm that I am very interrested in the car and I am ready to come just to see it, but if you require any money transfert before I have the key of the car and checked the papers..we have no deal. Sorry.
Kind regards.
xxx
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Peter James Crumm [mailto:crummpeter@gmail.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 31 janvier 2008 18:38
À : xxxxxxxxxxx
Objet : Re: RE : RE : NISSAN 350 Z PREMIUM PACK - 5300 EUR
Hello,
Look how we can make this deal , because I have tried to find the best
solution for the both of us. It's very hard for me to take a break from
my work,
but look how we can make this deal: I think that the best solution is
that you will come here in UK and we can make the deal face to face, in
person.
I think this is the best solution for the both of us. But to be sure
that you are a serious person and I will come in UK at home for a real
deal,
you will have to show me that you really have the money for this car and
you are a serious person, and you will come in UK to see the car, and I
will
not take the break from my work for nothing. To show me that you have
the money and you are coming in London even to get your money back, you
will have
to go with a friend at Western Union Service in your city.Your friend
will send the money from his name to your name, in London,UK. This way you can be sure about your money, because only you can pick it
up, in UK(and when you are here, it's simple, because you can take the
money
from Western Union, here in UK, and pay me for the car, in person, with
cash).Please understand that when you will make the
transfer via western union they don't allow you to send the money from
your name to your name in London,United Kingdom(to use the same name as
the sender and the receiver)
because may cause some problems and maybe we will have also problems
when you will be in London and we will pick up the money from their
office and this is the reason that
you must take a friend or relative with you and he will send the money
from his name to your name in London,United Kingdom.The transfer must to
be like this:
sender name : your friend's or your relative's name
sender address : address of your friend or relative
receiver name : here will be your name
receiver address : London , United Kingdom
After you have made the payment by Western Union, you will send me the
scanned receipt ( paper ) they will give you. If the money are OK and
you are the
receiver, in Western Union, in UK, I will take a break from my work, we
will arrange to meet together and you will be able to see the car. You must to understand my point, because I want to be sure that you will
come in United Kingdom and we can have a real deal, not just words. When you will be here in UK, you will see the car , verify the papers
with the Police in London and you can see that is everything is OK. After you see that the car is OK and you decide you want to buy it, we
will make the sale contract and the car will be on your name. After we
have made
the contract, we will go together at Western Union, you will take the
money, since the money are sent to your name and only you can take it,
you will give
me the rest of the money for the car in cash, like I have told you. I
hope that everything is clear and you can make a trip to United Kingdom
so we can
have a real deal. Probably this payment method it is not very familiar
to you, but I have to admit that it is most efficient process to go
through.
I need to tell you something and I hope you can understand me; if you
don't like the car, I will give you back the money for the plane
tickets, and also
I will give you back the fees that you have paid for the transfer by
Western Union.Please consider that Western Union has fees and if you are
bothered by those
I will deduct them from the price of the car.So please reply me soon,
and tell me if we can make the deal!My experience in the sale business
proved to me that quality is the key element to have a successful
business. Good faith and passion for winning has always
been my top priority and my most valued business approach.If you don't
know where you can find Western Union, in your city, please tell me your
city name, and I can find for you a location, where you can go and arrange the payment. Please reply me soon!
Respectfully Yours,
Peter James Crumm
23 Old Gloucester Street, London, , WC1N 3AF
xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>
> Ok, I think I will come one day to London to see the car (thanks to
> Easyjet, it's less than 150€). Maybe next week, or as soon as I can
> skip work. There, I could check the state of the car, the papers, and
> so on. I will probably need to copy the papers of the car to verify
> that I can have them in France later.
> We will also discuss the terms of payment, I have to confess that I will
> only pay by bank transfert to an account to your personnal name.
> Then if everything is OK I'll come back to take the car.
>
> When can I come, who will I meet and where ?
> Do you have a phone number ?
>
> By the way, have you noticed that the ad is not any more on the
> mobile.de site ?
>
> Regards
>
> xxx
>
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Peter James Crumm [mailto:crummpeter@gmail.com]
> Envoyé : dimanche 27 janvier 2008 23:00
> À : xxx
> Objet : Re: RE : NISSAN 350 Z PREMIUM PACK - 5300 EUR
>
>
> Hello again,
>
> The price is 5.300 Euro.The car is a 2004 model with 280HP and 18000
> KM.I want to let you know the car has German papers with TUV
> certificate
>
> and all the taxes paid. Comparing it with other cars,
> the price is a little bit low and I am aware of it, that's why I need
> to
>
> explain it to you: it has the steering wheel on the
> left side making driving hard for me in UK, so I have to to sell it in
> another country. I have a friend who speaks a little bit German and he
> helped me placing the Internet ad on www.mobile.de, he told me that I
> will sell the car on this web site in no time. I got the car for 7
> months following my divorce, my ex wife kept the Volvo so she had to
> buy me a car, this one( I suppose she considered funny buying a left
> sided car for me to drive it in a right sided country). I'm not an
> expert on cars but I can ensure you that it is in perfect conditions
> and it never had any problems with the engine, it has
>
> never been crashed and the maintenance was made by authorized service,
> the service book confirms it. I would very much like to make this deal
> in person, but it will be very hard because I have a lot of work to do
> in Norway ( the company I work for opens a new branch there and it
> seems I am the only capable branch manager they have). Don't worry,
> the car remained in London. It is hard for me to skip work now, so I
> need ensurance that you will come to London, in case you decide you
> want to buy the car. So if you are interested in purchasing my car,
> please let me know.
>
>
>
> I wish you a nice day,
> Peter James Crumm
> 23 Old Gloucester Street, London, , WC1N 3AF
>
>
>
>
>
> xxx wrote:
>
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> I am indeed _very_ interrested in this car, but living in the south
>> of
>>
>
>
>> France I would like to ask some question before I come and see it.
>>
>> How much km has the car ?
>> How much km has the engine ?
>> Is it a first-hand ?
>> Has it been transformed ?
>> What is the price ?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> xxx
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : crummpeter@googlemail.com [mailto:crummpeter@googlemail.com]
>> Envoyé : jeudi 24 janvier 2008 12:38
>> À : xxx
>> Objet : NISSAN 350 Z PREMIUM PACK - 5300 EUR
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>> Thanks a lot for your mail and your kind interest for my car.At first
>> I will promisse you that you will get a top car in top brand new
>> condition. There are no damages and no faults. The car looks like a
>> brand new car comming directly out of the factory. If you see the car
>> you would be very satisfactory - I can promisse it to you warmly. I
>> can understand you that you need more details, but please believe me
>> there is no need
>> - please imagine a brand new car!Enclosed please find further photos.
>> If you are still interested, to buy this car, please contact me back,
>> and I will tell you more about how we can forward with this deal. I
>> wish you a nice week.
>> Respectfully Yours,
>> Peter James Crumm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
ARNAQUE ARNAQUE ARNAQUE Bonjour! je suis une des victimes de ce fucking jocker alias james peter crumm , surtout pas de transfert d'argent par la WU cet enfoiré attend à coté de la banque (complice) qui lui transmet votre argent sans controle et disparait puis refait le meme coup avec d'autres personnes
si vous etes victime surtout déposez plainte et portez vous partie civile cordialement
si vous etes victime surtout déposez plainte et portez vous partie civile cordialement
tonyman38 => "le mode de paiment qui ne peut pas etre une arnaque etan donner que je serai le seul sur place a pouvoir retirez cette argent" : tu crois être le seul a pouvoir retirer l'argent mais là ou est situé l'escroc il peut retirer l'argent sans ton accord. Fais très attention !
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VOICI CE QUE J'AI RECU
Hello, Look how we can make this deal , because I have tried to find the best solution for the both of us. It's very hard for me to take a break from my work,but look how we can make this deal: I think that the best solution is that you will come here in UK and we can make the deal face to face, in person.I think this is the best solution for the both of us. But to be sure that you are a serious person and I will come in UK at home for a real deal,you will have to show me that you really have the money for this car and you are a serious person, and you will come in UK to see the car, and I willnot take the break from my work for nothing. To show me that you have the money and you are coming in London even to get your money back, you will haveto go with a friend at Western Union Service in your city.Your friend will send the money from his name to your name, in London,UK.This way you can be sure about your money, because only you can pick it up, in UK(and when you are here, it's simple, because you can take the moneyfrom Western Union, here in UK, and pay me for the car, in person, with cash).Please understand that when you will make thetransfer via western union they don't allow you to send the money from your name to your name in London,United Kingdom(to use the same name as the sender and the receiver)because may cause some problems and maybe we will have also problems when you will be in London and we will pick up the money from their office and this is the reason thatyou must take a friend or relative with you and he will send the money from his name to your name in London,United Kingdom.The transfer must to be like this: sender name : your friend's or your relative's namesender address : address of your friend or relativereceiver name : here will be your namereceiver address : London , United Kingdom After you have made the payment by Western Union, you will send me the scanned receipt ( paper ) they will give you. If the money are OK and you are thereceiver, in Western Union, in UK, I will take a break from my work, we will arrange to meet together and you will be able to see the car.You must to understand my point, because I want to be sure that you will come in United Kingdom and we can have a real deal, not just words.When you will be here in UK, you will see the car , verify the papers with the Police in London and you can see that is everything is OK.After you see that the car is OK and you decide you want to buy it, we will make the sale contract and the car will be on your name. After we have madethe contract, we will go together at Western Union, you will take the money, since the money are sent to your name and only you can take it, you will giveme the rest of the money for the car in cash, like I have told you. I hope that everything is clear and you can make a trip to United Kingdom so we canhave a real deal. Probably this payment method it is not very familiar to you, but I have to admit that it is most efficient process to go through.I need to tell you something and I hope you can understand me; if you don't like the car, I will give you back the money for the plane tickets, and alsoI will give you back the fees that you have paid for the transfer by Western Union.Please consider that Western Union has fees and if you are bothered by thoseI will deduct them from the price of the car.So please reply me soon, and tell me if we can make the deal!My experience in the sale business proved to me that quality is the key element to have a successful business. Good faith and passion for winning has alwaysbeen my top priority and my most valued business approach.If you don't know where you can find Western Union, in your city, please tell me your city name, and I can find for you a location, where you can go andarrange the payment. Please reply me soon! Respectfully Yours,Peter James Crumm23 Old Gloucester Street, London, , WC1N 3AF
Hello, Look how we can make this deal , because I have tried to find the best solution for the both of us. It's very hard for me to take a break from my work,but look how we can make this deal: I think that the best solution is that you will come here in UK and we can make the deal face to face, in person.I think this is the best solution for the both of us. But to be sure that you are a serious person and I will come in UK at home for a real deal,you will have to show me that you really have the money for this car and you are a serious person, and you will come in UK to see the car, and I willnot take the break from my work for nothing. To show me that you have the money and you are coming in London even to get your money back, you will haveto go with a friend at Western Union Service in your city.Your friend will send the money from his name to your name, in London,UK.This way you can be sure about your money, because only you can pick it up, in UK(and when you are here, it's simple, because you can take the moneyfrom Western Union, here in UK, and pay me for the car, in person, with cash).Please understand that when you will make thetransfer via western union they don't allow you to send the money from your name to your name in London,United Kingdom(to use the same name as the sender and the receiver)because may cause some problems and maybe we will have also problems when you will be in London and we will pick up the money from their office and this is the reason thatyou must take a friend or relative with you and he will send the money from his name to your name in London,United Kingdom.The transfer must to be like this: sender name : your friend's or your relative's namesender address : address of your friend or relativereceiver name : here will be your namereceiver address : London , United Kingdom After you have made the payment by Western Union, you will send me the scanned receipt ( paper ) they will give you. If the money are OK and you are thereceiver, in Western Union, in UK, I will take a break from my work, we will arrange to meet together and you will be able to see the car.You must to understand my point, because I want to be sure that you will come in United Kingdom and we can have a real deal, not just words.When you will be here in UK, you will see the car , verify the papers with the Police in London and you can see that is everything is OK.After you see that the car is OK and you decide you want to buy it, we will make the sale contract and the car will be on your name. After we have madethe contract, we will go together at Western Union, you will take the money, since the money are sent to your name and only you can take it, you will giveme the rest of the money for the car in cash, like I have told you. I hope that everything is clear and you can make a trip to United Kingdom so we canhave a real deal. Probably this payment method it is not very familiar to you, but I have to admit that it is most efficient process to go through.I need to tell you something and I hope you can understand me; if you don't like the car, I will give you back the money for the plane tickets, and alsoI will give you back the fees that you have paid for the transfer by Western Union.Please consider that Western Union has fees and if you are bothered by thoseI will deduct them from the price of the car.So please reply me soon, and tell me if we can make the deal!My experience in the sale business proved to me that quality is the key element to have a successful business. Good faith and passion for winning has alwaysbeen my top priority and my most valued business approach.If you don't know where you can find Western Union, in your city, please tell me your city name, and I can find for you a location, where you can go andarrange the payment. Please reply me soon! Respectfully Yours,Peter James Crumm23 Old Gloucester Street, London, , WC1N 3AF
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The best solution to do this is meeting in London face to face. You will be able to see the car, drive it and test it on the authorized dealer. We can arrange all the papers in few hours in a notary's office with the police service. I think my brother-in-law ( who is a police officer) will help us with the documents. There are two ways to do that, I can give you my license plates ( and my insurance ), or you can buy a temporary license plates from London ( germane one, witch costs is 30-50 EUR ). If you are thinking about how you can return to continent - there are 2 ways too ( from my point of view ). You can return through Eurotunnel ( witch costs is 50-70 Eur ) or with ferry boat ( witch costs is much lower ). At the end of this message you will find my phone number but I must tell you that is not working all the time because I am in roaming. Since we still working at our offices here we don't have a phone installed - In few days we will resolve this issue and I will give you the number from my office. So, if you decide to buy my car and come in London please let me know and we can think about closing this deal in the safest, fastest way for the both of us.
Waiting for your reply,
The best solution to do this is meeting in London face to face. You will be able to see the car, drive it and test it on the authorized dealer. We can arrange all the papers in few hours in a notary's office with the police service. I think my brother-in-law ( who is a police officer) will help us with the documents. There are two ways to do that, I can give you my license plates ( and my insurance ), or you can buy a temporary license plates from London ( germane one, witch costs is 30-50 EUR ). If you are thinking about how you can return to continent - there are 2 ways too ( from my point of view ). You can return through Eurotunnel ( witch costs is 50-70 Eur ) or with ferry boat ( witch costs is much lower ). At the end of this message you will find my phone number but I must tell you that is not working all the time because I am in roaming. Since we still working at our offices here we don't have a phone installed - In few days we will resolve this issue and I will give you the number from my office. So, if you decide to buy my car and come in London please let me know and we can think about closing this deal in the safest, fastest way for the both of us.
Waiting for your reply,
J'ai répondu a une annonce similaire, en tapant Laura Evans sur le net on remarque que c'est une actrice connue.
Donc d'une le nom est pipo. De plus la personne travaille en Norvège et est joignable en Angleterre.
Pour me rassurer son frère est policier et pourra m'aider a faire les papiers.
Voici les mails que j'ai reçu comme ils sont identiques aux votres
Hello again,
The best solution to do this is meeting in London face to face. You will be able to see the car, drive it and test it on the authorized dealer. We can arrange all the papers in few hours in a notary's office with the police service. I think my brother-in-law ( who is a police officer) will help us with the documents. There are two ways to do that, I can give you my license plates ( and my insurance ), or you can buy a temporary license plates from London ( germane one, witch costs is 30-50 EUR ). If you are thinking about how you can return to continent - there are 2 ways too ( from my point of view ). You can return through Eurotunnel ( witch costs is 50-70 Eur ) or with ferry boat ( witch costs is much lower ). At the end of this message you will find my phone number but I must tell you that is not working all the time because I am in roaming. Since we still working at our offices here we don't have a phone installed - In few days we will resolve this issue and I will give you the number from my office. So, if you decide to buy my car and come in London please let me know and we can think about closing this deal in the safest, fastest way for the both of us.
Waiting for your reply,
Laura Evans
52 Selvage Lane,
London NW7 3SP,
Phone no. : +44 8455082019
Fax no. : +44 7006015609
Hello again,
I want to let you know the car has German papers ( German license plates "Fahrzeugschein" , "Fahrzeugbrief" ) with TUV certificate and all the taxes paid including COC ( certificate of conformity ). Comparing it with other cars, the price is a little bit low and I am aware of it, that's why I need to explain it to you: it has the steering wheel on the left side making driving hard for me in UK, so I have to to sell it in another country. I have a friend who speaks a little bit German and he helped me placing the Internet ad on www.mobile.de, he told me that I will sell the car on this web site in no time. I got the car for few months ago following my divorce, my ex husband kept the Volvo so he had to buy me a car, this one( I suppose he considered funny buying a left sided car for me to drive it in a right sided country). I'm not an expert on cars but I can ensure you that it is in perfect conditions and it never had any problems with the engine, it has never been crashed and the maintenance was made by authorized service, the service book confirms it. I would very much like to make this deal in person, but it will be very hard because I have a lot of work to do in Norway ( the company I work for opens a new branch there and it seems I am the only capable branch manager they have). Don't worry, the car remained in London. It is hard for me to skip work now, so I need ensurance that you will come to London, in case you decide you want to buy the car. So if you are interested in purchasing my car, please let me know.
Best Regards,
Laura Evans
52 Selvage Lane,
London NW7 3SP, UK
Donc d'une le nom est pipo. De plus la personne travaille en Norvège et est joignable en Angleterre.
Pour me rassurer son frère est policier et pourra m'aider a faire les papiers.
Voici les mails que j'ai reçu comme ils sont identiques aux votres
Hello again,
The best solution to do this is meeting in London face to face. You will be able to see the car, drive it and test it on the authorized dealer. We can arrange all the papers in few hours in a notary's office with the police service. I think my brother-in-law ( who is a police officer) will help us with the documents. There are two ways to do that, I can give you my license plates ( and my insurance ), or you can buy a temporary license plates from London ( germane one, witch costs is 30-50 EUR ). If you are thinking about how you can return to continent - there are 2 ways too ( from my point of view ). You can return through Eurotunnel ( witch costs is 50-70 Eur ) or with ferry boat ( witch costs is much lower ). At the end of this message you will find my phone number but I must tell you that is not working all the time because I am in roaming. Since we still working at our offices here we don't have a phone installed - In few days we will resolve this issue and I will give you the number from my office. So, if you decide to buy my car and come in London please let me know and we can think about closing this deal in the safest, fastest way for the both of us.
Waiting for your reply,
Laura Evans
52 Selvage Lane,
London NW7 3SP,
Phone no. : +44 8455082019
Fax no. : +44 7006015609
Hello again,
I want to let you know the car has German papers ( German license plates "Fahrzeugschein" , "Fahrzeugbrief" ) with TUV certificate and all the taxes paid including COC ( certificate of conformity ). Comparing it with other cars, the price is a little bit low and I am aware of it, that's why I need to explain it to you: it has the steering wheel on the left side making driving hard for me in UK, so I have to to sell it in another country. I have a friend who speaks a little bit German and he helped me placing the Internet ad on www.mobile.de, he told me that I will sell the car on this web site in no time. I got the car for few months ago following my divorce, my ex husband kept the Volvo so he had to buy me a car, this one( I suppose he considered funny buying a left sided car for me to drive it in a right sided country). I'm not an expert on cars but I can ensure you that it is in perfect conditions and it never had any problems with the engine, it has never been crashed and the maintenance was made by authorized service, the service book confirms it. I would very much like to make this deal in person, but it will be very hard because I have a lot of work to do in Norway ( the company I work for opens a new branch there and it seems I am the only capable branch manager they have). Don't worry, the car remained in London. It is hard for me to skip work now, so I need ensurance that you will come to London, in case you decide you want to buy the car. So if you are interested in purchasing my car, please let me know.
Best Regards,
Laura Evans
52 Selvage Lane,
London NW7 3SP, UK
