WESTERN UNION money reception and transfer
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Hello,
They are asking me to receive funds on a bank account (CREDIT MUTUEL CIC CREDITAGRICOLE AXABANQUE BRED) from international and local clients, cash the money, and transfer it via WESTERN UNION or MONEYGRAM.
They want me to open an account and give them my account details and passwords (which I can open in one of the chosen banks?? Is this normal?? They are asking for a bank account statement, why??
It’s a foreign company based in Madrid, which seems both good and yet raises my suspicion that it could be a scam, but how can I be sure?? Thank you for your answers (isn’t this money laundering? Isn’t there a risk with the authorities??
They are asking me to receive funds on a bank account (CREDIT MUTUEL CIC CREDITAGRICOLE AXABANQUE BRED) from international and local clients, cash the money, and transfer it via WESTERN UNION or MONEYGRAM.
They want me to open an account and give them my account details and passwords (which I can open in one of the chosen banks?? Is this normal?? They are asking for a bank account statement, why??
It’s a foreign company based in Madrid, which seems both good and yet raises my suspicion that it could be a scam, but how can I be sure?? Thank you for your answers (isn’t this money laundering? Isn’t there a risk with the authorities??
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Hello!
I would like to know how my friend could send me money via Western Union?
What steps would be involved?
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Hello
be careful with what you do, and drop that thing,
proposals with so-called banks, bankers, brokers, lawyers, etc.
it's common, like the story of the lottery in Côte d'Ivoire! Many people have been taken advantage of!
but they ask for your details and often a bit of money too!
there are a lot of scammers on the net, and many duped as well,
so I'm telling you, don't touch that!!
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Hello,
I was scammed out of 1300 euros last year by a so-called lawyer from Cotonou, Benin, who led me to believe I could win several million euros. It was too good to be true, but with several supporting documents from the bank in Benin and a rather shady story, I didn’t report it, knowing full well that what I was doing wasn’t quite right. I took the risk, being very naïve.
But who wouldn’t have done it if someone told you that tomorrow you could win over 20 million euros with proof from the bank, the stamp signature, as well as the lawyer, etc.? In short, I was dazzled by the amount and rushed in like an idiot...
Now, about 15 days ago, I received the same type of email. So, at the moment, I’m having fun with them, making them believe they’ve found the right pigeon, and they’re waiting for a transfer of 6000 euros from me via Western Union next week. I’m laughing when I think about how I’ll make them believe that I’ve sent the money and that he will show up to collect it. Yes, in fact, they’re making me believe that I will receive 60% of 150 million euros. Yes, you read that right (150 million dollars)...
The name of the person I am supposed to make this transfer to is “GBODOGBE Ange Gilles-Christ.” You’ve noticed the first name... Ange Christ; it sounds holy, lol...
The so-called lawyer I’m dealing with is from “the Houtondji cabinet,” Master Mochael Yniesta. Of course, I found nothing on this phantom cabinet...
The director of the Société Générale bank in Benin is “Bousset Giresse.” I don’t need to tell you that all these names are fake, but I’m giving them to you in case these people offer you a deal, or if it can help someone who might investigate fraud coming from this country.
So everyone, be careful about everything that is offered to you from Africa; these are very organized gangs involved in all sorts of trafficking: cars, various devices, charm meetings, bank money, or so-called large sums in a trunk to be recovered in another country, etc. It’s pure SCAMMING against whites, as they say, because they think we have a lot of money, these thieves!!! Bye everyone.- Thank you for your info, but I know it by heart, and I can tell you that I won't get caught again.
I encourage you to go all the way, to blackmail them in turn; I did exactly the same
thing after I got caught. It's the only revenge we can have.
However, I don't understand how they don't get caught when they go to retrieve their money.
And we find the same operation in all the emails, it's a whole network that circulates, and of course, we let it happen. I think we have the means to catch them, like locating them with their phone... because I
had one on the phone several times that I made dangle; so, why don't the police services conduct any investigations?
Keep me updated on the progress with the one you are making dangle.
Annejule
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Classic scam!
1) Step: you give your bank account number
2) Step: money is transferred to your account, for example, €6000 (the guy is happy)
3) Step: you withdraw €5000 (wow! €1000 commission)
4) Step: you send the €5000 via Western Union while paying between €250 and €300 in fees (damn, I only have €700 left in commission)
5) Step: 15 to 21 days later, your bank withdraws €6000 from your account because the sender used a stolen check for the deposit or some other fraudulent means, hacking etc.
6) +6000 - 5000 - 300 - 6000 = -€5300 in your account and you can only cry. Meanwhile, on the other side, a guy who had €0 has received your €5300. -
It is indeed well clear and written and displayed everywhere, ===> http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4240/westernunionsg1.jpg and moreover mentioned in full on the form to be filled out for such an operation!
What more can I add????
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Thank you, tribunal, for your response. While searching on Google about how WESTERN UNION works, I stumbled upon the scams of tomobola or car sales via Côte d'Ivoire, but nothing about banks! However, the money transfer via "me" doesn't seem interesting unless it's for money laundering; the 7% remuneration is appealing, but the risk of going to prison is not negligible! I need to think and research on the internet! In my opinion, no bank will let me "withdraw 3000 euros" per day!
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Inform yourself in your banks! It's the safest and smartest choice!!!
And as I already said!
Beware of scams!! -
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Under no circumstances send money to Greece. The check will turn out to be fake.
The mechanisms are as follows:
You buy a (fake) car online. The seller is based in England or Africa and offers you a transport company and a third party (a website, but fake).
This transport company gives you the bank details, but it is not the company itself that holds this account; it is an individual (e.g., Jean Bonvoisin, accountant for the company Inter-transport). The scammers avoid Western Union because it has been talked about a lot in forums and smells like a scam.
This individual was recruited by the scammers to make his bank account available to receive funds (from victims who had bought a fake car and transferred funds to this account).
This (financial agent, etc.) has a contract with these scammers for a percentage of the transfers. He must monitor his account and as soon as a transfer arrives, withdraw it and send it via Western Union (thus anonymizing the funds). Funds also come into these accounts from hacked accounts, stolen credit cards, etc.
It only works for a few weeks until the first victims file a complaint.
The result: the holder of this account has violated credit laws, has laundered money, and:
he has debts of several thousand Euros.
So run away from this kind of job.
Best regards,
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Hello everyone.
Following my contact in Côte d'Ivoire. (Father Yvon Alain and Mr. Bamba Eric).
It was indeed a scam.
By checking the official Western Union website, you will be able to contact officials
who will confirm that the recipient of a cash transfer must in no case pay anything
to receive this transfer. Not even 10€.
Regardless of the country of origin.
Regardless of the amount to be sent.
It is a free service for the recipient.
Even if you are given an MTCN number, it is a fake that likely corresponds to an old transfer.
NEVER pay anything to receive a cash transfer from Western Union or any similar company.
If you pay the requested 200€, it will be cashed within 15 minutes and nothing will come in return.
ID card numbers, phone numbers, etc. are only there to gain your trust.
NEVER PAY ANYTHING and feel free to send the details of your "contacts" to Western Union
for further examination.
I want to emphasize that the contact person at WU was very helpful and that they are ultimately,
just like us, victims of these scams.-
I do not agree! They are victims of their own success in West Africa, yes! All these scams suit their business well.
What do they do about corrupt agents who don't ask for any identification or MTCN code, except for a few dozen euros to close their eyes??
It's a bit too easy to hide behind a pseudo-regulation that absolves them of all responsibilities... well, let them believe that.... and which does not protect users... To be continued.
Yet another bunch of notorious hypocrites!!
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FACTURE DE LIVRAISON DE COLIS
1. Courrier Express
2. Courrier régulier
3. Courrier Économie
DURÉE DE LIVRAISON
24 heures le lendemain
3-4 jours ouvrables
5-6 jours ouvrables
FRAIS DE COURRIER
900 € 750 €
370 €
ADMINISTRATIF
410 € (PAYÉ)
319 € (PAYÉ)
375 € (PAYÉ)
ASSURANCE (IBC)
375 € (PAYÉ)
250 € (PAYÉ)
375 € (PAYÉ)
TAXE SUR LA VALEUR AJOUTÉE
95 €
33 €
25 €
COÛT TOTAL (Euros)
995 €
783 €
395 €
COÛT TOTAL (Euros)
995 €
783 €
395 €
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Mme Yolanda Torrez
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Tél : +34 637 -053- 081
Fax : +34 -911-883-793 - Good evening
I also just received a message from one of those scammers!
Indeed, I was browsing a website looking for a reasonably priced used car and I came across this ad.
The guy is offering to deliver the car to my home in exchange for a money order previously registered at the post office (Western Union) supposedly as a guarantee for the delivery person (so he doesn’t make a trip for nothing)!
He was unlucky to come across me because I’m not that naive! I wouldn’t send money for something I’ve never seen!!!
After that, I wanted to get more information and that’s how I ended up here! I realize that in reality it’s a real scam network!!! I’m glad I didn’t fall for it and I feel sorry for those who did...
I’m leaving the details (if they really are his) of this rotten scammer and please be careful!!!
Name................Servier
First name............Romaric
Country................Togo
City....................Cara
Street...................16 rue du commerce
Phone: 0022 998 409 768
Please be careful!!! Good luck to everyone!!!
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Hello Nicoise,
The answer is - your bank will give it to you. Your banker should know when the money has been credited to your account.
Don't do anything without discussing it with him. And if he tells you: it's fine, you can use this money, have him sign a paper, so that in a week he doesn't reject the said checks.
Isis -
I was sent money via MoneyGram, and no organization in the town where I live is authorized to cash the amount (Post office, banks: they all say they don't do it... others don't even know what it is!
What should I do
thank you-
Hello
I find myself in the same situation as you. I was sent money via MoneyGram, and there is no MoneyGram agency in Belfort
Have you found a solution since then?
Thank you- Hi,
I suggest you check out the French MoneyGram website (https://www.moneygram.com/mgo/fr/fr/), where you should find the list of withdrawal locations based on your address.
See you!
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Hello,
No, you shouldn't do that, I'm sure it's a scam
You should quickly abandon it
I hope I am of help to you
annejule -
Hello,
Actually, my friend is a victim of a scam. She is passionate about fashion and does amateur and professional photos. In June, someone contacted her via email saying that her photos had been selected for a project for Coca-Cola. The person claims to work for a Coca-Cola branch. Anyway, he asked for her complete personal information: address, name, date of birth, social security number, landline, and mobile phone, supposedly to make her a contract, and he asked her to send three photos: a portrait, a full-length shot, and another one that I don't remember.
Three days later, he contacted her again, still by email, and informed her that she had indeed been selected, and that Coca-Cola would use her photos for advertising campaigns in the United States. He also told her that she would receive a check soon, and then more later.
Indeed, she received a check from an Irish bank (which, by the way, looked more like a money order or something like that). I told her to be cautious because the postmark was from Benin... and in the envelope, there was only the check, nothing else. No contract, no word. Since then, she has received about fifteen emails from this man, whose phone number is an English mobile number that is unreachable. He wants to know if she has cashed the check so he can send her the rest of her salary.
She cashed the check, and now he is telling her that she must keep 10% of the 5000 euros and send the rest to Greece!!!!!
I am worried about the consequences because they have all her information, and she doesn't want to return the money. What should we do??
Thank you for your responses.-
Bonjour, j'ai également été contacté par une agence de publicité sur un site de rencontre qui me dit être intéressé par mes photos pour une campagne de pub à l'aéroport de Londres Gatwick (Terminal 4)..
Voici une copie de l'e-mail :
Bonjour,
Merci pour votre réponse très rapide sur la modélisation de ce contrat n'est pas une blague à tous une fois dans leur vie une fois l'occasion. Votre image a été acceptée par l'agence, "Vision Entertainment Agence", l'un des favoris pour le Coca-Cola annonce le signe @ à l'aéroport de Londres Gatwick (Terminal 4). Nous ne faisons pas de discrimination dans la forme ou la taille des modèles différents, nous devons reconnaître de très belles photos et de les utiliser pour des publicités.
Vous recevrez un chèque (le premier versement est toujours dans la gamme de 4000 Euros à 6500 Euros, vous pouvez déduire 20% de vos belles photos sont utilisées pour le transfert de 80% de votre agent (qui sera utilisé comme votre inscription, et le reste sera utilisé pour le moulage de votre photo une fois votre inscription reçue, vous recevrez une CONTRAT M-20 e-mail.) comme moyen de paiement pour le contrat des panneaux. Ensuite, vous allez à l'expédition, le solde à votre agent désigné par l'intermédiaire de Western Union transfert d'argent de la documentation juridique de l'opération. Ce paiement sera également utilisé comme une "taxe" de l'agent, puis vous recevrez votre solde des coûts 15.500 Euros. Je vais attendre votre réponse urgente à la suite de l'information contribuera à nous traiterons votre paiement:
Prénom:
Nom:
Age:
Maison de l'adresse:
Code Postal:
Ville:
Pays:
Téléphone:
Profession:
Hobbies:
Dès que nous confirmer ces informations, notre bailleur de nous envoyer votre règlement à
tu. Nous serons en attente de votre réponse.
Cordialement,
A. Crowley
VISION ENTERTAINMENT
LONDRES
Je viens de recevoir un chèque de 6500€
après confirmation de réception j'ai reçu ce nouvel e-mail :
Bonjour Romuald,
Vous avez le droit de retirer 80% (5.200 euros) au total, et envoyé à nos agents désignés par Western Union Money Transfer. Vous devez prendre 20% (1.300 euros) pour l'excellence de leur acceptation. Vous recevrez une lettre de contrat et copie de l'image pour la publicité Big Billboard dès que l'agent de la confirmation du paiement.
Ci-dessous, est l'agent d'information:
NOM DU RECEPTEUR: ANDREW CORMICAN
RECEPTEUR ADRESSE: 3 RUE HAUTE
VILLE: LONDON,
CODE POSTAL: SE3 5RF,
PAYS: ROYAUME-UNI
QUANTITÉ: 2600 Euros
NOM DU RECEPTEUR: JOHN Gunson
RECEPTEUR ADRESSE: 3 RUE HAUTE
VILLE: LONDON,
CODE POSTAL: SE3 5RF,
PAYS: ROYAUME-UNI
QUANTITÉ: 2600 Euros
Dès que vous avez envoyé les fonds, envoyez-moi un e-mail avec les détails ci-dessous l'Ouest Réception
Nom de l'expéditeur:
Votre Adresse:
Montant: En livres sterling
Money Transfer Control Numéro (MTCN):
Transfert d'argent frais sera déduit du montant envoyé
S'il vous plaît laissez-nous savoir si vous pouvez venir à l'aéroport de Londres Gatwick (Terminal 4) et de voir le panneau d'annonce, vous obtenez un billet, et trois jours d'hébergement dans un Hôtel à Londres. Je sais votre agenda ...
Note: Vous avez droit à un chèque de 15,500.00 euros dès que le Billboard est lancé, qui est le paiement final pour le Billboard Advert.
Cordialement,
Angela
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Hello!!
It seems that this is a scam.. A well-known method:
They send you a foreign check that you can cash... The amount is credited to your account, everything seems fine... a few days later you send back the surplus via the unavoidable W.U... And a few weeks later your account is debited the initial amount received because there was a problem during the 'clearing' of the check (Stolen, counterfeit or without funds..) . You find yourself out of the W.U. send. No possible recourse, London is just a cover!!
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Hi,
But of course it's a scam!!!
Traveler's checks can be traced.
So if you cash them, you are recorded and they will always find you later: receiving stolen goods.
Otherwise, if they have been reported as stolen, then you cannot cash them, they are canceled.
So yes, it's a scam and since you wouldn't have obtained these traveler’s checks honestly, they know very well that you won't file a complaint.
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Hello,
I have also been contacted by this famous Rachel Anderson from Berry Inc... my photos are supposed to be used for an ad for BlackBerry in England... as soon as I received this message, I searched for information on Berry Inc and.... nothing!
So I played along, she asked me for my address to send me a check where 20% would be for me and the remaining 80% for the lawyers who are supposed to draft the contract...
I received the check yesterday for an amount of €4800! nice, right? you don't get those every day! and so, the mail was indeed sent from England but then, oh! what a surprise! I look at the sender and it turns out to be a company based in Perpignan whose bank is in Spain...
So I continue my research and I search for this company on InfoGreffes and there.. oh! another surprise! this wholesale business has been dissolved since January 2009...
I have the check and the envelope as well as all the emails... what procedure could I initiate to stop this scam? contact the former manager of the company to let them know that someone is using their checks? (it seems more real than life! and I am an accountant...) file a complaint?
I have been scammed in the past and I had no recourse, just my eyes to cry... can I do something about this?
Thank you and stay vigilant ;)-
Hello Emma,
Your story is very interesting.
I think there is indeed something to be done. I recommend you contact the association AVEN France (Association of Victims of Nigerian Scams), as there may be an action to take since a French company is involved.
Have a good day,
Isis- Hello Isis,
It’s done, I just sent them an email and I will see if they want us to do something, or if they can advise me... I’m not planning to give up... I wrote to Rachel this morning, telling her that I had received the check and that I was waiting for her directives... if she can provide me with a name, a bank account number, or anything that could identify the person behind all this, that would be great!
Have a good day too and thanks for the info.
Emma
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Hello,
I posted an ad to sell an item. Someone contacted me and was interested in the object. They sent me two traveler’s checks. I thought it might be a scam since I often surf a lot of websites. But then I thought I would just deposit them into my account. My account was credited, of course, but to this day the amount has still not been debited and it's been almost 3 weeks. Do you think there is still a risk considering the time that has passed since the deposit? Should I wait longer or can I withdraw the money?
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Hello Mr
do not worry if you finish doing the account and the transfer, contact me directly
at my email which is henryparker1993@yahoo.fr
you will give me the coordinates and the password
I will manage it online for you without risk
thank you for your message
best regards
Mr. HENRY PARKER BUSH
General Director of Western Union-
The site administrators and the moderation team (of which I am a part) have access to the IP addresses of visitors, allowing them to determine their origin.
I can confirm that the IP of this BUSH HENRY PARKER (CEO of Western Union) is located in BENIN, and therefore, his testimony in this context is rather questionable.
Moreover, payments through Western Union, Moneygram, and others should only be used between close acquaintances. Not for commercial transactions. Scammers have no trouble retrieving the money within minutes of the transfer, and they do so without needing a security code or any other false security measure.
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Dear Director,
I would like to make a money transfer to a recipient named Marck Peters, whose address is as follows: 548 Leeds ls1 1wu, England. This follows the opening of an account at Halifax Online Banking, PO Box 548 Leeds ls1 1UW, England Headquarters (http://www-halifax.co.uk/).
Indeed, when I called Western Union, I was told that this bank does not exist!!! To my great surprise!!!
What should I do?
Thank you for replying quickly.
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