ESU installation for extended updates on Windows 10
brucine Posted messages 24378 Registration date Status Membre Last intervention -
Hello
Since my computer is not compatible, I decided to use ESU (paid) to continue receiving updates, as I’m on Windows 10.
Not being a tech expert, I would like to know if it will be complicated to install?
Thank you for your response.
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Hello,
Take a look here.
Install Windows 11 on an incompatible PC (without TPM or SecureBoot) - malekal.com
I would like to know if it will be complicated to install it? There is nothing to install; this is not software or an application!
Also note that there are two serious alternatives to consider, which may prove more advantageous than subscribing to the ESU program.
The first is to force the installation of Windows 11 on an incompatible PC, bypassing the hardware restrictions imposed by Microsoft. No major issues have been observed so far: users who have forced the installation continue to receive all updates, including security updates.
https://learn.microsoft.com/fr-fr/windows/whats-new/enable-extended-security-updates
https://www.microsoft.com/fr-fr/windows/end-of-support
Extended security updates for individuals and organizations of all sizes.
Hello,
I don't know if it would be better to make it a grouped topic; we now have questions regarding ESU or more generally the circumvention of the incompatibility every day, and they are the same.
That said, on the last point, if Microsoft removes its condition to the only free path (OneDrive backup of the settings or even this backup itself), that's a half-good news for those it interests (everyone was warned well in advance; what is the point of postponing it for another year?).
I also assume that signing up for ESU requires creating a Microsoft account for the occasion for those who don't have one, and on that front, it’s still not great.
Lastly, we can't download or install the ESU; it is offered spontaneously in Windows Update... or not.
Many people (myself included on my virtual machine, although I am perfectly indifferent to it) have not been offered it to date.
This morning I received a notification in Windows 10 stating that the program will soon be available (but not the link itself).
Even though I don't open it every day since it's a virtual machine, this supports the hypothesis I previously expressed in another thread that this update is being rolled out gradually according to different computers.
Regarding its cost, one of the multiple links included states that it becomes free only for individuals (and individual licenses, not volume) who have a Microsoft account and continue to log in with it.
Those who only have a local account are encouraged to log in with a Microsoft account; if they do not wish to, we revert to the original option excluding the Rewards solution which disappears, a one-time purchase for $30.
Hello Brucine
Are you saying that we will end up paying after all?
Personally, just before this information about not paying, I was ready to pay, as I find it simpler for the procedures.
I mainly wonder about having to install ESU, since I'm not an IT professional, I hope it won't be too complicated to carry out.
And also (another topic)
I use Google every day to gather information on various subjects.
I don't play games, I check my Gmail, I also send emails for paperwork or other matters.
I upload photos to Google Photos.
In short, the bare minimum, so do I have a local account or not?
Because I have a Microsoft account, but I don't know if using everything I've listed constitutes being part of the Microsoft account.
Thank you for clarifying.
Hello,
Everything has been said about ESU.
Following a backtrack from Microsoft, you can subscribe for free for a year as long as the link is available in Windows Update (not at the same time for everyone), and you have a Microsoft account or create one at this occasion.
Choosing a Microsoft account is personal if you intend to use the Cloud (OneDrive), purchase applications from the Microsoft Store, use the email accounts that depend on it...
The price of fame is the resources used to connect and the telemetry that follows.
Outside of these contexts, there’s nothing stopping anyone, myself included, from having only a local account that doesn't prevent what you want to do.
More generally, ESU is for one year; what do we do after? Isn't it worth making a decision now, forcing the migration to Windows 11, or continuing with Windows 10 with minimum precautions?
The updates are those for vulnerabilities that have been discovered and the security software.
Aside from risky behavior, we lose sight of the fact that Microsoft generally patches about 150 security vulnerabilities with each monthly update.
What happens between the discovery of these vulnerabilities and their fix a month later?
Most of these vulnerabilities fortunately only concern very specific situations (using particular software and hardware) and are not randomized: generally speaking, an attacker needs to target a specific computer; what reason would they have to target mine?
Despite this periodic patching, no computer can withstand a targeted attack from someone competent.
Regarding security software, updating the firewall doesn't really make sense: if properly configured, it should at least alert on anything that is not expressly allowed, but nothing theoretically excludes the possibility that it might not be able to detect an attack exploiting a new vulnerability.
Worse for antivirus, new viruses don't just fall from the sky every day; for the most part, viruses are new variants that security vendors give new names to, but the role of antivirus is less about detecting a name than about heuristic analysis (looking for code that is malicious and more or less common).
There will continue to be third-party security solutions that, after next month, will continue to receive updates for antivirus databases if they are of any use.
In a healthy browsing behavior, the Defense and firewall layers will continue to intercept as before.
This ESU situation is being made dramatic when a significant number of users continue to use Windows 7 in this healthy context, which hasn’t been updated for nearly 6 years, and many currently using Windows 10 or 11 come here to complain about being infected.
Ultimately, this situation lasts until no third-party software is updated either, to the point that everything risks becoming a complete sieve (that's the case with Windows XP, and probably not yet with Windows 7).
No operating system update or security software protects against dangerous behavior (dubious downloaded software, email attachments, or links clicked anywhere, which in the latter case isn’t enough; you also have to not use a browser script blocker that intercepts malicious ones).