Can you have two internet subscriptions at home?

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ericart2020 Posted messages 43 Status Member -  
ericart2020 Posted messages 43 Status Member -

Hello

Everything is in the title of the question. To this I specify "being subscribed" to two internet service providers.

Is this possible?

I read a similar topic but it dates back to 2014.

Thank you in advance for your help,

Best regards,

Eric

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  1. brupala Posted messages 111184 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   14 459
     

    Hello,

    having experienced this in the professional world, I can tell you that you can have as many operator arrivals at a site as you can pay for, but these are installations and subscriptions that cost very, very much, far beyond a residential subscription.

    Given the minimal price (some will complain) of a public subscription, the operator generally takes advantage of what is built in order to keep their costs down because a second access can become very expensive to build, although not necessarily more, since when the infrastructure is set up for 2, it's generally feasible to create half a dozen if it's a business.

    Moreover, many companies to secure their access to the outside often subscribe to multiple different operators, even through different entry points and NROs for data centers.

    In short, everything is technically possible; it’s just a matter of price.


    And there you go, there it is ....

    But goodness, how annoying the line spacing is!!

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  2. jee pee Posted messages 31940 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention   9 999
     

    Hello,

    To clarify, because of your IP, is the question regarding France?

    And for a fiber or ADSL connection?


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  3. ericart2020 Posted messages 43 Status Member 3
     

    Thank you for your responses!

    Interesting and enlightening.

    @jee pee:

    For France.

    And a Fiber connection.

    Thank you!

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  4. jee pee Posted messages 31940 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention   9 999
     

    Providers do not offer 2 fiber subscriptions for the same household. One can imagine an ADSL subscription and a fiber subscription. Or a 4/5G box, or even a satellite connection box.


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    1. brupala Posted messages 111184 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   14 459
       

      As I was saying, not at the same price, but at a different price (x10), it remains possible.

      After a radio connection, that’s what most people, even professionals, choose (as a backup for pros).

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    2. ericart2020 Posted messages 43 Status Member 3
       

      When you mention "an ADSL subscription and a Fiber subscription," does that mean that these are two subscriptions with the same provider?

      Or is it ADSL with FAI01 and fiber with FAI02?

      Furthermore, you conclude with "Or a 4/5G box, or a satellite connection box."

      I suppose that in the case of a 4/5G box (thus with a SIM card), it, like the other option (the satellite connection box), would be the second "Internet" connection in addition to the subscription with FAI01 or FAI02 mentioned earlier?

      Thank you!

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    3. ericart2020 Posted messages 43 Status Member 3 > brupala Posted messages 111184 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention  
       

      "After a radio connection, this is what most people, even professionals, choose (as a backup for pros)."

      A radio connection can be compared to the satellite connection mentioned by jee pee?

      Thank you

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    4. jee pee Posted messages 31940 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention   9 999 > ericart2020 Posted messages 43 Status Member
       

      If the building has fiber, none of the 4 main operators will offer ADSL. It could just be an alternative operator (who are often the network providers for professionals), like Ovh or Nordnet (*), if the Orange copper line is still operational. The approach would have been to keep the ADSL when switching to fiber, not a reinstatement afterwards.

      (*) Nordnet offers all internet connection solutions, maybe not everywhere, ADSL, fiber, 4G, satellite, and even radio waves.

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    5. brupala Posted messages 111184 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   14 459 > ericart2020 Posted messages 43 Status Member
       

      Hello,

      The answer to your question is quite complex. First of all, one must not confuse ISPs (Internet Service Providers) with telecom operators. In practice, the lists may overlap, but these are very different professions: Orange, Bouygues, and SFR are still telecom operators with their own networks and facilities, having kilometers of their own fiber, while Free is not a telecom operator, at least not much in mobile, but that’s it. Free is a service provider and an ISP (an ISP is someone who primarily provides IP addresses to their clients, IP as in internet).

      Moreover, ISPs are not required to have technical infrastructure, unlike operators who install and manage it.

      In terms of fiber, the real infrastructure operators are investors akin to those who build roads. Since we'll focus on fiber, the rest is on the verge of disappearing, except for 4/5G, networks must connect to a NRO (Node de Raccordement Optique), and it's important to know that NROs can cover a radius of 20 km, which gives an idea of what that means in Paris, covering the entire suburbs.

      However, Paris, like the center of major cities, is a special case in the sense that they are classified as very dense zones. In these very dense zones (ZTD), fiber operators do as they please, there are no infrastructure operators; instead, we talk about building operators. Each commercial operator finds a way to reach a residential building, a retail space, or an office, where they will be in direct competition with others. In these very dense zones, we have found and still find PTOs (Points de Terminaison Optique) with 4 fibers inside, one for each major commercial operator.

      The lists and positions of the NROs are not very well known for security reasons. Historically, the first ones were installed in the premises of NRA (Nodal Routing Areas) telephone exchanges, but since many fewer are needed, not all NRAs host them.

      Furthermore, having 2 (or 4) operators at the same time is fine; it can be done, but it's still double the expense.

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  5. quentin2121 Posted messages 9011 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   Ambassador 1 313
     

    Hello!

    Very interesting description of how fiber works and its upstream equipment, thank you, chief!


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  6. ericart2020 Posted messages 43 Status Member 3
     

    Hello everyone,

    All the resources shared by the contributors who responded to my question are very informative and relevant!

    As a result, the issue is resolved. Now I just need to find time to choose one configuration or another.

    Thank you very much.

    Best regards,

    Eric

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    1. quentin2121 Posted messages 9011 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   1 313
       

      Thank you for your feedback Eric, have a good continuation, have a nice Sunday.

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      1. ericart2020 Posted messages 43 Status Member 3 > quentin2121 Posted messages 9011 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention  
         

        Thank you, Quentin! Likewise!

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