Mail delivery time from abroad

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contrariness Posted messages 338 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   -

Hello,

On Monday, August 28, 2022, I sent four postcards each in envelopes to friends in France from Crete (Greece). Here we are on Wednesday, September 14, and none of my four recipients has received their mail. I would therefore like to get some answers by posting my question on this forum.

Why? Is this normal? Will my mail arrive?

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georges97 Posted messages 14505 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   2 894
 

Hello,

You are misinformed about the functions and possibilities of a forum, made up of subscribers like you and me, which cannot address any dysfunctions of a commercial service (or otherwise) and even less indicate the positioning of transported products. We have no connection with the administration of La Poste, a commercial activity that does not publish this kind of statistics.

Only personal experiences exist, like those of jag72, but they cannot in any way meet your expectations, as anyone can report delays, including for express mail, far exceeding the announced deadlines, for which you will find it very difficult to obtain a response from La Poste itself. Therefore, it is not appropriate to expect a result from moving within one of the categories of this forum, even if leisure/diversions is indeed surprising.

Only a complaint to the postal services (Greek) is appropriate, but I doubt they will respond, due to a lack of follow-up procedures, only possible if provided by the sender.

As a reminder, CCM is a support platform for mutual assistance and knowledge exchange on topics related to computing and the internet.

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gugus
 

I just saw that I'm in the wrong forum but I can't delete my post. Sorry

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jag72 Posted messages 14864 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   2 790
 

Hello,

In which forum was it supposed to be so that I can request its relocation?

Otherwise, it's been more than three years since I sent postcards to Algeria and they never arrived.

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Xileh Posted messages 19446 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention   6 568
 

Hello,


I moved your question to "leisure/entertainment," which is the least inappropriate of the sub-forums on the site (the one about postal services indeed concerns webmail, not postal shipments...)


As for the substance... it's quite difficult to answer you.... there is neither tracking nor guarantee with "simple" shipments.... especially from one country to another...

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MPMP10 Posted messages 46986 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   18 842
 

Good evening,

Is my mail going to arrive?

It's impossible to know here through a forum in an exact way and with absolute certainty! A one in two chance...

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Raymond PENTIER Posted messages 58546 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   17 474
 

Hello.

Indeed, brucine; it is common for mail sent from France to Pointe-Noire in Congo to take a detour via Pointe-Noire in Guadeloupe, or for letters intended for St-Claude in the Jura to end up in my naval town, St-Claude in Guadeloupe!

You are also right; the postmen in Crete are used to tourists speaking all languages; but what is possible in Chania or Heraklion is not necessarily true in Sitia or Voutas...


Retirement is great! Especially in the Antilles...
Raymond (INSA, AFPA)

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blux Posted messages 5003 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention   3 451
 

Hello,

it's also very common for some unscrupulous postal workers to take the stamps, especially from postcards.

Sicilians are specialists in this kind of trickery.

In case of doubt, put it in an envelope; it avoids showing the little value of a postcard...


See you later blux "The idiots dare everything.
That's even how we recognize them."

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Xileh Posted messages 19446 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention   6 568
 

Hello....

Um....

I sent four postcards, each in an envelope.

In the body of the question....................

;-)

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blux Posted messages 5003 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention   3 451 > Xileh Posted messages 19446 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention  
 

Well then, flop for me!

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contrariness Posted messages 338 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   6 240
 

The ideal is to write the destination country in the language of the departure country and in English. Once it arrives in the destination country, the postal code and the city take over.

In modern countries, postal sorting is automated and handwritten addresses are misinterpreted by scanners. If the translation is also incorrect, the mail is directed who knows where..

For example, many Chinese websites require addresses to be written in English, meaning without accented letters.

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Raymond PENTIER Posted messages 58546 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   17 474
 

Hello gugus.

If the addresses on the 4 envelopes are handwritten in French, the Cretan officials didn't understand anything!

If you had written in Aramaic, Arabic, or Chinese, it would have been the same!

If the addresses were printed, or very carefully calligraphed, there is a small chance that the Greek officials managed to scan and then translate those addresses; but multiple errors may have crept in...


To your question "will my mail arrive," I would therefore reply "there's a 1 in ten thousand chance that it will, and 9,999 that it won't"!


Retirement is great! Especially in the Caribbean...
Raymond (INSA, AFPA)

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Xileh Posted messages 19446 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention   6 568
 

Hello,

This is a particularly reductive stance and doubtlessly far from postal operations, even if they are sometimes erratic... Indeed, the only information that the Cretan postal workers need to consider is "France" ... Then, upon arrival on French soil, the postal code... and the other subsequent elements must be taken into account by postal workers who are supposed to know how to read them............

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brucine Posted messages 24389 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   4 098 > Xileh Posted messages 19446 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention  
 

Hello,

Regarding randomness, many years ago I sent a letter from France to my brother, where the country was clearly stated, he then lived in a town named Poland (Ohio).

My letter came back to me a few months later from Poland, but this does not suggest a greater randomness in Crete where I assume the postal workers deal with hordes of tourists and are used to addresses in all languages.

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Xileh Posted messages 19446 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention   6 568 > brucine Posted messages 24389 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 

Good evening,


There are certainly no shortage of examples of absurdities in postal delivery... between addresses that are sometimes written in a fanciful way and the interpretation of addresses that are correct, there is definitely a mix... Moreover, the press loves to report on mail that has arrived with a delay of 30 or 40... years... However, at the same time, it is excessive to want to make these "fancies" a generalization.

;-)

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