Running a 16-bit DOS software on Windows 10 64-bit

zouriteman -  
 zouriteman -
Hello,
in response to those who do not know how to do it, I would like to point out that there is an excellent application, DBDOS (current version 6), which allows you to run old 16-bit programs (DOS or Win95); I use it to run DBASE version 3, which enables me to work on DBF files.
This is a paid software (about $100 US, quite variable depending on promotional periods), and it can be purchased from DBASE - INC.
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quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   Ambassadeur 1 311
 
Hello,
isn't there a trial version?

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zouriteman
 
see the site http://www.dbase.com
There is no TRIAL version, the current official price is $149, but I often receive promotional offers
I can only tell you that it works very well.
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quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   1 311
 
I was just wondering how MS-DOS was executed back in the day: we would put the boot program of a few kilobytes on a floppy disk in FAT and boot from it? We executed .exe files? Thanks for the information!
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zouriteman
 
MS-DOS was most often found on a floppy disk. I experienced the large 5.25-inch floppy disks (very flexible) of 256 KB around 1980, then the 3.5-inch rigid floppies of 512 KB, but also the first hard drives (5 to 20 million bytes).
If you have a 3.5" floppy drive (generally designated A:\), you can easily boot with MS-DOS, or one of its free clones that are easily downloadable: DR-DOS, FREE-DOS, 4DOS.
The executables are .EXE, .COM, and possibly .BAT files.

Under WINDOWS 10 (or 7 or 8), you have the equivalent of MS-DOS, under the <windows key=""> -- RUN -- type CMD.
A (black) window opens and you have nearly what you would have by booting MS-DOS, with some pros and cons.

The essential problem is that the old applications (the .COM and .EXE) from that time, which are in "16-bit" format, do not work at all with a WIN-10 64-bit. They, however, work with Win-10 32-bit (included in WIN-10 PRO at about €150) and of course with WIN-XP (but which is abandoned by almost everyone).

But the interest of DBDOS from DBASE.COM is that it adds functionalities that do not exist in original MS-DOS: PRINTING (on USB or Network printers), USB drives, access to large capacity disks (MS-DOS only recognizes small disks in FAT16), sound management, etc. ...</windows>
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quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   1 311
 
Thank you for all this information!
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quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   1 311 > quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
I tried on Windows XP, but the DOS commands are "bad dos", it won't open! It's an MS-DOS from 1986 put on a 1.44 MB floppy disk!
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quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   1 311 > quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
In fact, to be on 32-bit under XP, I used an XP on VirtualBox, and I cannot boot from the floppy disk from the VM?
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extempor Posted messages 2134 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   875 > quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
Hello,

the problem is that there are a plethora of MS-DOS versions...

The last one I used with Win 3.11 was 6.22 (3.5-inch floppy disks of 1.44 MB), then with Win 95 it was integrated into the system.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-DOS
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jean_marie
 
Hello.

Where can I install Windows 2000 on VirtualBox to get back that precious old DOS? Where can I find the Windows 2000 ISO? Surely online?
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Anonymous user
 
Do you know DOSBOX or what? At least DOSBOX is free.
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quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   1 311
 
You have to learn some commands, but it's not bad for 1988... heehee!
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zouriteman
 
YES, DosBOX is pretty good too, free, but you need to know how to set it up;
in particular, there is a parameter set too low (number of cycles) by default, which gives terrible performance (on my 10-year-old PC, with a Pentium Core E7400);
I had to increase it from about 4000 to 50000.
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quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   1 311
 
With DOS, apart from playing games, what else could we do? Listen to music, type a text, etc...?
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extempor Posted messages 2134 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   875 > quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
We were doing computer-assisted experimentation and it depended on the sensors and software:

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exp%C3%A9rimentation_assist%C3%A9e_par_ordinateur

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quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   1 311 > extempor Posted messages 2134 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
Ok thanks!
There are composers who connected Fairlights to microcomputers to compose melodies too... ;)
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quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   1 311 > quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
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zouriteman
 
As today, there were millions of businesses using professional software: accounting, client files, invoicing, etc... Including technical drawing software (Turbo-CAD for example), and data management software, of which the three most well-known are: DBASE (DBF) and its variant CLIPPER, PARADOX, FOXPRO.
For the individual user, the only utility of DOS / 16-bit emulators is to run old games they experienced in their youth, or to continue using software they are comfortable with, without having to invest money (I'm thinking of alternatives to WORD or EXCEL for example).
For the professional user, it is to run old applications whose developer has disappeared, or has not ported them to WIN32 or WIN64, or has prohibitively high prices.
There is a nostalgic resurgence for old simple games like PacMan, etc...
For my part, my only necessity is to use DBASE3 to easily perform tasks on my personal application files (Accounting) and those of my association (Payroll, Accounting, Activities, Staff Planning, ....)
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quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   1 311
 
Thank you for all these clear and precise explanations. If you have any other names of exciting games under Dosbox, I'm interested, "pacman" is not bad at all!

P.S.: I'd also like the Dosbox settings, or where to find them, not in the installation program?
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zouriteman
 
You will find a list of 3888 old games, several hundred of which run in DosBox, here:
https://www.dosbox.com/comp_list.php?letter=a

It's up to you to make your choice and find old floppy disks, or download them if you find websites that offer them!
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quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   1 311
 
Thank you very much!

Is there a way to run DOSBox in full screen in game mode?
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zouriteman
 
YES, keyboard shortcut ALT + ENTER

or in the config file:

section [sdl]
fullscreen=true
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