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Hello everyone
I want to take a computer training course. For the entrance tests, I read that some knowledge in computing is required, but which ones??
What kind of questions?
And for math, they ask for a high school level but what exactly: functions? trigonometry? integrals...?
Thanks, see you later.
I want to take a computer training course. For the entrance tests, I read that some knowledge in computing is required, but which ones??
What kind of questions?
And for math, they ask for a high school level but what exactly: functions? trigonometry? integrals...?
Thanks, see you later.
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The AFPA tests are not that simple, on the contrary, especially the psychological tests, situation:
1- You have the choice between: 1 lighter; 1 door; 1 umbrella; 1 calculator....
In short, following your choice you will have to give an oral dissertation lasting about 30 minutes in front of 4 psychologists who only seek to destabilize you...
In summary, if you do not pass the psychological test, even if you know your job 200 percent.... Bye Bye
1- You have the choice between: 1 lighter; 1 door; 1 umbrella; 1 calculator....
In short, following your choice you will have to give an oral dissertation lasting about 30 minutes in front of 4 psychologists who only seek to destabilize you...
In summary, if you do not pass the psychological test, even if you know your job 200 percent.... Bye Bye
I enrolled at AFPA (Toulouse) to join the TSSI (Higher Technician in Computer Maintenance) training. So I had to take the psychotechnical tests, but before doing so, I practiced a little to avoid showing up unprepared.
I just received the results of my tests (negative), so I want to share my experience:
Overall, upon leaving the test room: I knew that I hadn't succeeded in the sequences and the deduction of measurements; for the logic test, I would say average, and for English and Computer Science, I knew I had done well.
A week later, I was summoned to know the results of the tests: the psychologist immediately told me: "It's not possible for this training; you made too many mistakes in the number sequences and in the logic test," then she said to me, "yet it's just multiplications/divisions... Do you have problems with the multiplication tables?" => at that moment, I was floored!! I know the multiplication tables by heart, forwards and backwards!! I would rather say it’s their test that has problems...
Then she told me, "For English and Computer Science, you did well (normal, I got 28/30), so I told her that I had generally succeeded in half of the tests, but she said it wasn’t enough. So I said to her, "What’s the point of the English and Computer tests if failing to completely succeed in the numerical sequences and logic problems is eliminatory?? If I had completely failed, okay, but I passed half of the tests; doesn't that count??"
And then she said to me, "Yes... anyway, your educational background hasn't prepared you for this":
that was a major shock!! So according to them, someone who has a Literary Baccalaureate, for example, cannot become a Network Administrator... come on, that’s ridiculous!!!.....
So this is to say that the selection process at AFPA for computer training is total nonsense: they make you take 4 tests and only base their evaluation on 2 tests... who do they think they are??
For your information, I applied to CESI for the Computer Maintenance Technician training (in alternation), and the only tests they made me take was a multiple-choice questionnaire on computers (accessible to any computer enthusiast, which is my case); they obviously accepted my application, and they didn't make me take incomprehensible numerical sequences or exercises on hand-drawn figures.....
Just for your information...
I just received the results of my tests (negative), so I want to share my experience:
- #First test: Reasoning test (dating back to 1991, not very current, anyway...) Here's what it consists of:
- The first part of the test involves completing sequences of numbers; I completely agree with Arn1970's opinion: the first sequence is simple, but all the others are incomprehensible. No matter how much I multiplied/added/divided/backwards/every second one... I couldn't find the relation. Well, I thought it wasn't too serious if I succeeded in the rest.
- The second part of the test involves completing sequences of shapes: no major difficulties
- The third part of the test involves figures where you are given 2 out of 4 measurements, for example, and you have to deduce the other two measurements. The figures are hand-drawn, which doesn't make it any easier; the same issue as the sequences: incomprehensible... solving second-degree equations would have been simpler...
- #Second test: Logic test (dating back to 1997...): here, questions are posed by enumerating facts, and you must choose conclusions, really not simple, and in some cases, I found the question not logical at all, and the proposed answers even less so. Still, I thought it wasn't too serious; I reassured myself that the test was only about that and that I would make up for it on the computer and English tests.
- #Third test: English test: no major difficulties; it requires a second-year level, so very doable
- #Fourth test: Computer test: again, no major difficulties; if you know what BIOS is, what RAM is, and what an OS is, it's very simple
Overall, upon leaving the test room: I knew that I hadn't succeeded in the sequences and the deduction of measurements; for the logic test, I would say average, and for English and Computer Science, I knew I had done well.
A week later, I was summoned to know the results of the tests: the psychologist immediately told me: "It's not possible for this training; you made too many mistakes in the number sequences and in the logic test," then she said to me, "yet it's just multiplications/divisions... Do you have problems with the multiplication tables?" => at that moment, I was floored!! I know the multiplication tables by heart, forwards and backwards!! I would rather say it’s their test that has problems...
Then she told me, "For English and Computer Science, you did well (normal, I got 28/30), so I told her that I had generally succeeded in half of the tests, but she said it wasn’t enough. So I said to her, "What’s the point of the English and Computer tests if failing to completely succeed in the numerical sequences and logic problems is eliminatory?? If I had completely failed, okay, but I passed half of the tests; doesn't that count??"
And then she said to me, "Yes... anyway, your educational background hasn't prepared you for this":
that was a major shock!! So according to them, someone who has a Literary Baccalaureate, for example, cannot become a Network Administrator... come on, that’s ridiculous!!!.....
So this is to say that the selection process at AFPA for computer training is total nonsense: they make you take 4 tests and only base their evaluation on 2 tests... who do they think they are??
For your information, I applied to CESI for the Computer Maintenance Technician training (in alternation), and the only tests they made me take was a multiple-choice questionnaire on computers (accessible to any computer enthusiast, which is my case); they obviously accepted my application, and they didn't make me take incomprehensible numerical sequences or exercises on hand-drawn figures.....
Just for your information...
Regarding the IT tests at AFPA, I took these tests in 2007 and in terms of IT, I think the test in question is relatively simple. The questions are about general knowledge. Out of 30 questions in the multiple-choice questionnaire, I answered 25 correctly. I then started an internship as a network technician after 14 months. This was for a duration of one year.
Best regards.
Best regards.
More than courage and motivation, one needs a sense of sacrifice to join a training program at Afpa:
In June 2008, a job seeker for over a year, I expressed my wish for reorientation to my employment advisor: to learn the profession of multimedia graphic designer in order to create websites as a freelancer.
My advisor, knowing nothing about it, told me to look into the appropriate training programs.
I found a whole list of training options, some completely private, others under contract, and then Afpa.
She scheduled me an appointment for September 2008, which was canceled at the last minute. In the meantime, I toured training centers, guidance offices, local missions, student fairs, online forums, and more...
As a result, I waited until February 2009 for a new Afpa appointment, which was canceled again at the last minute.
Finally, after persistent insistence, I managed to get an appointment at the end of March 2009 for an interview and tests.
And for over 2 months now, I've been waiting for the final result of my application for entry into Afpa training... multiplying follow-ups in vain.
Assessment: Since my initial wish for a training project, a year has already gone by, drowned in administrative mazes... despite my overwhelming motivation, tenacity, and all the means I've put in place to realize this project.
A real waste... that mistreats those who have the will to move forward.
Might as well privatize everything from the start, to stop making people believe that they have a hope of reclassification through public services.
In June 2008, a job seeker for over a year, I expressed my wish for reorientation to my employment advisor: to learn the profession of multimedia graphic designer in order to create websites as a freelancer.
My advisor, knowing nothing about it, told me to look into the appropriate training programs.
I found a whole list of training options, some completely private, others under contract, and then Afpa.
She scheduled me an appointment for September 2008, which was canceled at the last minute. In the meantime, I toured training centers, guidance offices, local missions, student fairs, online forums, and more...
As a result, I waited until February 2009 for a new Afpa appointment, which was canceled again at the last minute.
Finally, after persistent insistence, I managed to get an appointment at the end of March 2009 for an interview and tests.
And for over 2 months now, I've been waiting for the final result of my application for entry into Afpa training... multiplying follow-ups in vain.
Assessment: Since my initial wish for a training project, a year has already gone by, drowned in administrative mazes... despite my overwhelming motivation, tenacity, and all the means I've put in place to realize this project.
A real waste... that mistreats those who have the will to move forward.
Might as well privatize everything from the start, to stop making people believe that they have a hope of reclassification through public services.
Hello,
I took the famous psychotechnical tests at AFPA in Nanterre for the multimedia graphic design course. The tests were frankly horrible... Like for some, the number sequences posed a lot of problems for me; I have a high school diploma in literature, but I've never been bad at math, so lol... And I don’t see how that relates to the course... Anyway, let's move on.
I received a letter about a week later indicating a new appointment to take graphic tests this time. I thought, "Oh great, I finally passed these tests," but when I got there, the psychologist told me that I had failed by 5 points and that it was close, but she would still let me take the graphic tests.
So I took those famous tests (general culture, logo creation, knowledge of visual identities), and it went pretty well. After about an hour, she came to get me, and we went to her office. She told me that for the cultural part, it was good, and that the rest would be graded by the instructors.
And then she said the killer line: the course is accessible to graphic designers, but those who are already in the field... Of course, of course...
I was taken aback; I had been put through tests and processes for nothing, and she tells me that afterward. When I first went to see her, I told her that I have a master's degree in art history; I briefly mentioned my background trying to show her that I could relate that to this course, and she says to me, "But this is for those coming from art schools," while on the AFPA or CARIF website, it states, "intended for individuals from art schools, or having a basic training in drawing, or practicing drawing."
On the site, I saw people who had completed the course I wanted to take, and many of them did not come from art schools!!!
I did a high school diploma in literature with a specialization in plastic arts, with classes at the local fine arts school; I thought that would be enough... But apparently, it wasn't, she wanted to close the door on this course from the start without even seeing what I was capable of... I had to insist a lot for her to let me take the tests....
So, I gave up on AFPA; I didn’t insist; their story of "you can" "oh, you can't," "oh, it's not for you," etc., really upset me...
I ended up taking other tests, at other schools, including one in Paris, which made a very good impression on me, the Marcorel school. I am currently awaiting their response.... I’m keeping my fingers crossed :s because they had over 200 applications; I made it past the initial cut of 80, but I’m still waiting to hear back....
The tests there were simpler than those at AFPA, at least in terms of logic, because then they asked more in terms of general knowledge.
Desperate unemployed, where are you at?
I took the famous psychotechnical tests at AFPA in Nanterre for the multimedia graphic design course. The tests were frankly horrible... Like for some, the number sequences posed a lot of problems for me; I have a high school diploma in literature, but I've never been bad at math, so lol... And I don’t see how that relates to the course... Anyway, let's move on.
I received a letter about a week later indicating a new appointment to take graphic tests this time. I thought, "Oh great, I finally passed these tests," but when I got there, the psychologist told me that I had failed by 5 points and that it was close, but she would still let me take the graphic tests.
So I took those famous tests (general culture, logo creation, knowledge of visual identities), and it went pretty well. After about an hour, she came to get me, and we went to her office. She told me that for the cultural part, it was good, and that the rest would be graded by the instructors.
And then she said the killer line: the course is accessible to graphic designers, but those who are already in the field... Of course, of course...
I was taken aback; I had been put through tests and processes for nothing, and she tells me that afterward. When I first went to see her, I told her that I have a master's degree in art history; I briefly mentioned my background trying to show her that I could relate that to this course, and she says to me, "But this is for those coming from art schools," while on the AFPA or CARIF website, it states, "intended for individuals from art schools, or having a basic training in drawing, or practicing drawing."
On the site, I saw people who had completed the course I wanted to take, and many of them did not come from art schools!!!
I did a high school diploma in literature with a specialization in plastic arts, with classes at the local fine arts school; I thought that would be enough... But apparently, it wasn't, she wanted to close the door on this course from the start without even seeing what I was capable of... I had to insist a lot for her to let me take the tests....
So, I gave up on AFPA; I didn’t insist; their story of "you can" "oh, you can't," "oh, it's not for you," etc., really upset me...
I ended up taking other tests, at other schools, including one in Paris, which made a very good impression on me, the Marcorel school. I am currently awaiting their response.... I’m keeping my fingers crossed :s because they had over 200 applications; I made it past the initial cut of 80, but I’m still waiting to hear back....
The tests there were simpler than those at AFPA, at least in terms of logic, because then they asked more in terms of general knowledge.
Desperate unemployed, where are you at?
Hi pixi,
you were subjected to the same blah blah as me but with different lame excuses.
Originally, the State, in its desire to provide public service for the reclassification and training of people registered with ANPE, had established a well-structured system in the form of a bridge between ANPE and AFPA. AFPA being an association with established credibility, receiving funding from the state.
But now everyone is playing hypocrite and passing the buck with lame excuses.
The reality is that officially they cannot discriminate among applicants between the bad profiles of people at the end of their rights not benefiting from any financial aid and the good profiles of people bringing funds to the table due to their social situation (in professional contracts, CIF beneficiaries, etc.), because as the State is drastically downsizing public structures (see the merger of ANPE and ASSEDIC), AFPA selects according to the funding they are sure to receive by integrating this or that candidate, rather than risk jeopardizing a certain workforce in their ranks by taking on (with state subsidies on a diet) candidates who pass the tests but pose a financial viability risk for their organization.
Since I don’t have the personal means to pay for an overpriced private training, and that I have invested both time looking for an appropriate training, knocking on all the doors of training centers, funding organizations, and also upgrading myself to succeed in these tests, I want AFPA to fulfill its mission to the end and integrate me into this training, even if it means knocking at the highest levels of the establishment so they justify their refusal to fulfill their mission.
Thus they will have to reconsider their commitment to ANPE and not make reclassification and training assistance a convenient facade in their partnership with ANPE.
We will see what comes out of all this....
To be continued...
you were subjected to the same blah blah as me but with different lame excuses.
Originally, the State, in its desire to provide public service for the reclassification and training of people registered with ANPE, had established a well-structured system in the form of a bridge between ANPE and AFPA. AFPA being an association with established credibility, receiving funding from the state.
But now everyone is playing hypocrite and passing the buck with lame excuses.
The reality is that officially they cannot discriminate among applicants between the bad profiles of people at the end of their rights not benefiting from any financial aid and the good profiles of people bringing funds to the table due to their social situation (in professional contracts, CIF beneficiaries, etc.), because as the State is drastically downsizing public structures (see the merger of ANPE and ASSEDIC), AFPA selects according to the funding they are sure to receive by integrating this or that candidate, rather than risk jeopardizing a certain workforce in their ranks by taking on (with state subsidies on a diet) candidates who pass the tests but pose a financial viability risk for their organization.
Since I don’t have the personal means to pay for an overpriced private training, and that I have invested both time looking for an appropriate training, knocking on all the doors of training centers, funding organizations, and also upgrading myself to succeed in these tests, I want AFPA to fulfill its mission to the end and integrate me into this training, even if it means knocking at the highest levels of the establishment so they justify their refusal to fulfill their mission.
Thus they will have to reconsider their commitment to ANPE and not make reclassification and training assistance a convenient facade in their partnership with ANPE.
We will see what comes out of all this....
To be continued...
oh yes, I also forgot the proof by example...
so having passed the tests, I called the trainer of the relevant department to find out if I could join the next session or the following one...
of course, I was supposedly on the waiting list... according to the trainer's words... so I decided to contact my referring therapist to ask her to look for spots in other departments...
She told me yes yes I will inquire and keep you updated...
15 days later still no response, so after 3 weeks I called her back to ask where things stood, and then the secretary told me she was next door (she didn't even bother to respond to me in person, I think she probably didn't feel proud of her work at that moment), so I asked her to ask the question to see if she had managed to find me a spot, and then the secretary said in a somewhat hesitant voice "no... uh no..." (ok, I understood that the therapist hadn't even bothered to look).
And I received a letter a few days later stating that I had indeed passed the tests but that my social situation (no CIF, nor professional contract) did not allow me to join a session....
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so having passed the tests, I called the trainer of the relevant department to find out if I could join the next session or the following one...
of course, I was supposedly on the waiting list... according to the trainer's words... so I decided to contact my referring therapist to ask her to look for spots in other departments...
She told me yes yes I will inquire and keep you updated...
15 days later still no response, so after 3 weeks I called her back to ask where things stood, and then the secretary told me she was next door (she didn't even bother to respond to me in person, I think she probably didn't feel proud of her work at that moment), so I asked her to ask the question to see if she had managed to find me a spot, and then the secretary said in a somewhat hesitant voice "no... uh no..." (ok, I understood that the therapist hadn't even bothered to look).
And I received a letter a few days later stating that I had indeed passed the tests but that my social situation (no CIF, nor professional contract) did not allow me to join a session....
S-C-A-N-D-A-L-O-U-S
Hi desperate unemployed,
That's tough for you...
As for me, I have good news, I passed the tests for the Marcorel school in Paris, and I have to go through a
final interview next Monday... I hope it works out :s
Where do you live? In the Paris region? Because this school is indeed private, but it has a contract with the ANPE, so the training will be fully covered; I should only have about 70 euros to pay. (if I get accepted....)
I hope you find a training program. As for me, I'll know next week "fingers crossed"
Good luck
That's tough for you...
As for me, I have good news, I passed the tests for the Marcorel school in Paris, and I have to go through a
final interview next Monday... I hope it works out :s
Where do you live? In the Paris region? Because this school is indeed private, but it has a contract with the ANPE, so the training will be fully covered; I should only have about 70 euros to pay. (if I get accepted....)
I hope you find a training program. As for me, I'll know next week "fingers crossed"
Good luck
Well, it's quite difficult; but I had never done it before, so that explains everything... but I think that with a bit of practice, I can manage it, but the level is still pretty high, I won't lie to you, I took the tests on September 4th and now it's October 5th lol, I still haven't contacted the psychologist again, but since I wanted to go to Créteil and there are no more spots until July 2008, I'm taking my time, but I don't plan on taking too long, you know... Anyway, how's it going with you, did you take them or what????
Otherwise, the tests from the link you sent me are way too easy, nothing like the AFPA tests, I got 7/10 the first time.
Otherwise, the tests from the link you sent me are way too easy, nothing like the AFPA tests, I got 7/10 the first time.
Hello, here it is.. yesterday I took the entrance test at AFPA for IT support technician.. what can I say?
Session 1 was almost impossible, number logic sequences (the first ones are fine, then it gets tricky), some pretty tough math problems but doable although sometimes they don't seem to have solutions, then a geometric figure test.. couldn't understand it at all, I even asked the proctor how to approach it and he replied that he never understood that test either.. anyway, the first session is a disaster lol..
Session 2 in IT: way too easy, questions like what do you store in the cache memory? 4 answers, you have to choose one.. otherwise.. uh.. what do we define as an "operating system"? 4 answers, choose one.. impossible to mess that up ^^
Session 3 in English: well, if you have basics (5th or 4th grade level), it's way too easy and some of the answers are hilarious.. but yeah, not complicated at all..
If I can help you, feel free to leave questions on the forum, see you soon and good luck!
P.S. I'll get the results on February 16th.
Session 1 was almost impossible, number logic sequences (the first ones are fine, then it gets tricky), some pretty tough math problems but doable although sometimes they don't seem to have solutions, then a geometric figure test.. couldn't understand it at all, I even asked the proctor how to approach it and he replied that he never understood that test either.. anyway, the first session is a disaster lol..
Session 2 in IT: way too easy, questions like what do you store in the cache memory? 4 answers, you have to choose one.. otherwise.. uh.. what do we define as an "operating system"? 4 answers, choose one.. impossible to mess that up ^^
Session 3 in English: well, if you have basics (5th or 4th grade level), it's way too easy and some of the answers are hilarious.. but yeah, not complicated at all..
If I can help you, feel free to leave questions on the forum, see you soon and good luck!
P.S. I'll get the results on February 16th.
Hello
I would like to have more information regarding the test you took, as I will be taking mine on Wednesday, so what kind of questions were asked?
Would it be possible for you to send me the questions? It would help me a lot, as in all the messages, we cannot find the answers we want to have
and these answers are what the questions were, not if everything went well.
Thank you again in advance for your response.
Redy
I would like to have more information regarding the test you took, as I will be taking mine on Wednesday, so what kind of questions were asked?
Would it be possible for you to send me the questions? It would help me a lot, as in all the messages, we cannot find the answers we want to have
and these answers are what the questions were, not if everything went well.
Thank you again in advance for your response.
Redy
Hello, I will soon be taking entrance tests for a mechanical design training for engineering firms. There are math tests at the terminal level: geometry, algebra, and physics. Can someone tell me what the general themes are for these subjects? Will there also be psychotechnical tests, essays... And how does the interview with the psychologist go? Thank you in advance.
Hello, I will soon be taking entrance tests for a mechanical design training program for research offices. There are math tests at the level of high school: geometry, algebra, and physics. Can someone tell me what the general topics are for these subjects? Will there also be psychotechnical tests, essays... And how does the interview with the psychologist go? Thank you in advance
Rémy
Rémy
Is the psychological test that hard?
Is it much more difficult than an IQ test? Can you give me your results for this test please: http://fr.tootest.centraltest.fr/esptest/@test/index.php?nomtest=direct_qi3?
I'm also waiting for an appointment to take it in Créteil, I don't have a date yet!
I read that there will probably be logical tests, language tests (English), oral comprehension in French, and IT.
For the logical and French tests, it's said that doing IQ tests would be good training, but I haven't been informed about the rest yet.
Is it much more difficult than an IQ test? Can you give me your results for this test please: http://fr.tootest.centraltest.fr/esptest/@test/index.php?nomtest=direct_qi3?
I'm also waiting for an appointment to take it in Créteil, I don't have a date yet!
I read that there will probably be logical tests, language tests (English), oral comprehension in French, and IT.
For the logical and French tests, it's said that doing IQ tests would be good training, but I haven't been informed about the rest yet.
Up, I'm interested in that too! I already took the psychometric tests once, it was a failure, but I've got a second chance!
Hello, I will soon have entrance tests for a mechanical designer training for engineering offices. There are math tests at the high school level: geometry, algebra, and physics. Can someone tell me what the general themes for these subjects are? Will there also be psychotechnical tests, essays... And how does the interview with the psychologist go? Thank you in advance.
Hello,
who could give me the questions from the AFPA tests for the "Higher Technician in IT Support" training
thank you in advance
who could give me the questions from the AFPA tests for the "Higher Technician in IT Support" training
thank you in advance
I took the AFPA test for physical chemistry technician, it was a disaster for me. I didn't expect so many questions
80 for each subject, not to mention the endless exercises, it's crazy!!!
80 for each subject, not to mention the endless exercises, it's crazy!!!
I found that the IT technician tests were simple.
What remains is the follow-up: the training and especially the outcome of the training: employment...
What remains is the follow-up: the training and especially the outcome of the training: employment...
Hello, I took AFPA tests for a training in construction and public works, and I believe the math tests are somewhat the same; that is, solving equations of the first and second degrees with one or more unknowns, solving square matrices, basic trigonometry; sine and cosine functions from the first year of high school. A few simple calculations of addition, multiplication, division with parentheses and powers of 10. Good luck.