Calculate a discount % based on a % and a margin %.
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Hello,
I run a business and I am busy modifying my IT system.
In short, I have supplier prices on which I have a purchase discount. For my sales, I base my prices on the supplier's price on which I apply a discount for my customer.
I am trying to find a formula to calculate a discount to apply to the price in order to achieve a certain profit margin (in %) based on my purchase discount.
Since I am in a vast field with several suppliers, I don't want to perform calculations for everything and therefore I am looking for a formula that will help me later on in a macro or another tool.
The next part is more complex as I will integrate into my process the Pareto principle (or theory) ;)
Attached is a screenshot, which I hope will be clearer than my words.
Thank you for your help.
Kub
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I run a business and I am busy modifying my IT system.
In short, I have supplier prices on which I have a purchase discount. For my sales, I base my prices on the supplier's price on which I apply a discount for my customer.
I am trying to find a formula to calculate a discount to apply to the price in order to achieve a certain profit margin (in %) based on my purchase discount.
Since I am in a vast field with several suppliers, I don't want to perform calculations for everything and therefore I am looking for a formula that will help me later on in a macro or another tool.
The next part is more complex as I will integrate into my process the Pareto principle (or theory) ;)
Attached is a screenshot, which I hope will be clearer than my words.
Thank you for your help.
Kub
Configuration: Windows 7 / Chrome 37.0.2062.103
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Well, I'm having trouble making a relatively readable image
If I have a purchase discount of 60% and I want a 30% margin, what discount should I give?
If I have a purchase discount of x% and I want y% margin, what z% should I give?
Another way to say it :)
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Hello, very interesting!
Quote: "a formula to calculate a discount to apply to the price in order to achieve a certain profit margin (in %) based on my purchase discount.
Is it in relation to the amount of your purchase discount or in relation to your purchase price (discount included)? -
If I have a purchase discount of 60% and I want a margin of 30%, what discount should I give?
If I have a purchase discount of x% and I want a margin of y%, what z% should I give?
Another way to say it :) -
Hello,
Your problem seems to be more about math. Calculate your formula with a paper and a pencil, then put it in your Excel spreadsheet.
LR -
For everything else, that's what I did for 3 weeks instead of automating.
I had done everything on a system of equations with several unknowns, but now I'm stuck on the mathematical writing of my question :) since it involves relationships or coefficients based on percentages. -
Hello Kubinator.
Your image is very nice, but not very usable.
Please send us the Excel file itself. To do this, go to https://www.cjoint.com/ to create the link, which you will paste here.
If needed, write down the formula you have in mind on paper and scan it...
But most importantly, give us a numerical example: On a purchase of €100, what final selling price do you want to achieve? Is it really €52?
In that case, the formula would be =A1*(1-60%)*(1+30%) and the discount rate would be =(1-60%)*(1+30%) which is 52%.
Best regards.
Retirement is nice! Especially in the Caribbean... :-)
Raymond (INSA, AFPA, CF/R) -
Well, I tried, I'm getting close to the solution (mathematical)
Concrete example:
If the price is 100€ and I have a purchase discount of 60% and I want a margin of 20%, what sales discount should I apply to the price for my client? (the answer is 50%)
100€ - 60% = 40
100€ - 50% = 50
40 / 50 = 0.8 (20%)
T - x% = A
T - y% = V
V / A = M
So if I remember correctly from my classes:
(T - y%) / (T - x%) = M
T - y% = M / (T - x%)
And now I'm lost trying to find y. In my opinion, the -60% etc., I should account for them as x0.40 (the decimal equivalent) to see more clearly...
It's taking shape lol, then I can set T and x in a table so that it calculates my y automatically. -
I've found the error!! I reversed it ;)
(100 x 0.40) / (100 x 0.50) = 0.80
(100 x 0.40) / 0.80 = 100 x 0.50
I just need to transform it into an equation with the corresponding data for the columns :) -
I'm summarizing :)
Well, I tried, I'm getting closer to the solution (mathematical)
Concrete example:
If the price is 100€, I have a purchase discount of 60% and I want a margin of 20%, what sales discount should I give on the price to my client? (the answer is 50%)
100€ - 60% = 40
100€ - 50% = 50
40 / 50 = 0.8 (20%)
T - x% = A
T - y% = V
V / A = M
So if I remember correctly from my classes:
(T - y%) / (T - x%) = M
T - y% = M / (T - x%)
And here I get lost trying to find y. In my opinion, I should account for the -60% etc., in x0.40 (the decimal equivalent) to make it clearer for me...
It's taking shape lol, then I can set T and x in a table so that it calculates my y automatically
I'll take the same numbers again:
100€ - 60% = 40
100€ - 50% = 50
40 / 50 = 0.8 (20%)
Let's use coefficients instead of %
100€ x 0.40 = 40
100€ x 0.50 = 50
40 / 50 = 0.8
(100 x 0.40) / (100 x 0.50) = 0.80
(100 x 0.40) / 0.80 = 100 x 0.50
All that's left is to transform it into an equation with the corresponding data in columns :)
(T - x%) / M = T - y%
It's almost done :)
End:
(T - x%) / M x T = -y%
Winner Kub!! :) -
I have a purchase discount of 60% and I want a margin of 20%, what sales discount should I give to my client based on the price list? (The answer is 50%)
Ah! I think I've finally understood your issue; but it wasn't easy!
The formula is =(PD-MG) / (1-MG)
or in your example =(60%-20%) / (1-20%)
which gives a sales discount relative to the supplier's price of 0.5 or 50%.
Best regards.
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Retirement is nice! Especially in the Caribbean... :-)
Raymond (INSA, AFPA, CF/R) -
I arrived at RA/MV = RV if I remember your abbreviations correctly :)
RA: Purchase Discount
MV: Selling Margin
RV: Selling Discount
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Hello,
I didn't see your reply, sorry.
I have done various checks and it seems that what I did is correct.
I checked it with Excel, with my accounting software, and even on paper with a calculator ;)
Here is briefly where I have arrived; of course, later on, I complicated things a bit too, my table allowed me to work on another spreadsheet with “=VLOOKUP(D1157,'Calcul par groupe %'!A4:G79,2,0)” to make my task easier.
Thanks again for your help