PS3 12GB or 500GB???

And it is not possible to store on an external hard drive that we would connect to the console to play the games?

I simply say: LOL and I agree that on some reviews there are PS3 games that require large updates (BattleField 3, Grand Turismo 5, GTA IV) of several GB, so an update can go through, but after several updates it can start to get very heavy, especially if you want to download applications, maps, mods (for BattleField there are mods for premium of several GB)... so I advise you for just 30 euros more to get a 160GB one that will be completely sufficient.

SwiftMan? Well, what yes SwiftMan...

Here is the translation of your text: "Here I am, I started this topic before Christmas. Summary:
I bought a 12 GB (out of stock for Christmas on the 500).
The seller told me there were no backup issues!!!
A month later, Assassin's Creed, FIFA, and one or two games I just started,
memory full....
I bought a 500 GB card + rail (€85).
Everything works perfectly, I haven't even lost the old saves.
The installation is super simple, as if they planned this to sell hard drives like crazy... But no, I don't want to believe it!!!
The end."

I saw on forums that some games were too powerful for 12GB, so can you confirm that it's okay for any games, even the most demanding ones?

I do not recommend the 12GO. I have Black Ops 2, Hitman, Uncharted, and Assassin's Creed 3 on it that I bought on CD, but installation and saves take up space on the PlayStation.
I had to uninstall my save for Assassin which I had almost completed at 100% since I hadn't finished the others to install Duke Nukem.
My Play is full again, and with the pack I bought, I had a promotional code for the Blu-ray of Spiderman (which is 6GO), so I will never be able to download it on my Play since the Play has 12GO but with all the elements installed on it, it doesn't actually have 12GO right from the purchase...
Furthermore, it is much noisier than the old one, which is unbearable at first; it's better to keep it away from you. You get used to it over time, but it gives you a headache. And finally, it crashes regularly, so you have to manually turn it off and then back on since it no longer reboots automatically. In short, I regret my old 500 YOLDé rip.

Hello, I would like to change my PS3 console, but I was told that the 500 GB version is no longer available on the market. Is there a reliability issue with this model?

Hello, the 12GB model has support for adding a hard drive, it's just not included. It simply has 12GB of internal memory, so my dear, since the hard drive isn't provided, certain games will need to be installed as they average around 6GB. Personally, since I had a 500GB laptop hard drive lying around that is compatible with the PS3, I bought the 12GB pack which included Black Ops II for €239. It was cheaper for me than buying the 500GB model. At least with the 12GB internal memory plus the 500GB portable hard drive, that gives me 512GB, so I'm ahead.

Small video explaining how to increase the capacity of the 12GB PS3 without any issues!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEbBSjt6YKY

I bought the 12 GB a few months ago, thinking that it would be enough for gaming. Indeed, it is enough for gaming, but you quickly find yourself quite limited: you'll soon have to make choices about which games to install. Sure, you don't have to install all the games - except for certain ones, like Assassin's Creed III in particular, well, I didn't find another way to do it, but also GTA V... - and some are really slow if that's not the case.

And unfortunately, you can't use an external hard drive on the PS3 to install your games, well yes, it would be too easy to pass them on to anyone afterward ^^

So I just received today an internal 500 GB hard drive that I will hurry to install! For that, you need an adapter that costs about ten euros, and that's all!

So I think the most economical solution is to buy a 12 GB and add an internal hard drive yourself (actually, there is not at all an internal hard drive in the base 12 GB). In the end, it all depends on the price of the internal hard drive you add ^^. I should mention that I chose a 500 GB because it was on promotion and was the cheapest, but I will never need that much space!

In total, between the adapter and the internal hard drive, I spent 50 euros, while if I remember correctly, there is a 100 euro difference between the 12 GB PS3 and the 500 GB PS3. => So that's 50 euros saved =D

I do not recommend an ultra slim at all, but you can do what you want. Also, getting a 12 GB and then an external hard drive is completely stupid; you can't install the updates for certain games that require more than 12 GB on your external hard drive.

Instead of buying their super hard drive for €80, salvage a hard drive from an old laptop, in SATA and 2.5".

Yes, some games have to be installed. Uncharted 3 is a "big" game, 21GB as you said, which is not practical when you have a 12GB.
Sony released this 12GB version to make it cheaper, in order to attract more customers... In reality, it has nothing more than the previous ones except that in this version (the 3rd of PS3) they made it quieter and equipped it with a manual CD cover, which is practical when the console breaks down; you can easily retrieve your disc from inside unlike the previous versions.
PS: For the hard drive support, if you want to avoid spending €50, you can wedge the hard drive in the console drawer with cardboard spacers so it glides between the disk and the walls; it's really simple but it works, it's not dangerous for the console, and you can't see it because you can close the cover.

The "rail" as you say is called a rack and is not mandatory; it serves to hold the HDD in the console, but you can hold it with small cardboard shims that you slide between the HDD and the drawer wall of the HDD.

Hello, I know quite a bit to answer your question. If you just play with the console and download nothing and install nothing, then the 12 GB is good for you. But personally, I'd go for the 500 GB or even the cheaper 250 GB. As for me, I install the installation files; they allow you to start the game faster, and if you change your mind and want to add content to a game to enrich it, you'll quickly be disappointed with the 12 GB version.

Hi, I have a 12GB PS3 and just games like Uncharted 3 take up 21GB!
So I ordered a hard drive (250GB) but with the support I have to add 50 euros to the price of the PS3, so it’s better to get a PS3 with 500GB.

I got the PS3 Ultra Slim 12GB at the beginning of the month with 5 games. A week later, I had to buy an internal hard drive and a bracket! (WD 320GB Internal Hard Drive + the bracket bought on Amazon) The bracket is used to insert the hard drive into the PS3. Result: I can now play however I want! Hoping I was helpful ^^

Does it work well with the 500g0 card?

Many games require installation, some are very demanding, so the internal memory of 12GB fills up quickly, especially if you also use your console as a multimedia hub, meaning if you use it for movies, videos, photos, music, etc., in addition to games, it's obvious that it's not much.
Sony just made this model to sell it cheaper in order to attract customers; it's just commercial, there's no need to overthink it ^^

As I said, the PS3 12GB was created for those on a tight budget. PS3 sales were declining, so Sony had to find a solution to stabilize their sales by making a low-priced console. Low price means fewer advantages, so here we have reduced storage space, but they foresaw this by including a compartment to insert a hard drive. This way, people will buy one when they run out of space, and thus, the customers will end up buying a PS3 + a hard drive, allowing Sony to make cash and boost their sales statistics. It's all a matter of business, business is business.