Bell 9241 HDPVR Receiver

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Hello,

I wanted to know if it is possible to transfer my recordings from my Bell Express Vu receiver to my computer.

Bell Express Vu PVRHD 9241

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michberthier · Accepted Answer

Hello, I have the Bell 9241 HD receiver
It has a USB port in the front and one in the back
It also has a built-in network card
How can I transfer my recordings to my computer network?

Is it possible?

The network card connects to my computer’s and it shows "connector to an unknown network drive..."

Do I need a program?

Or is there a way to put the movies on a USB stick, is that possible?

I'm waiting for your solutions because I've been struggling for a long time and haven't found any solutions.

caillouditcouocu · Answer

It's true that it could be useful because I also have the recordable receiver but not HD. A little off-topic question, are you having trouble with their internet??? I have the performance plan (3 to 10 mbits/sec and I download at 160 ko/sec when everything is really going well).

fooster · Answer

oh yeah, I have the same internet, I also have total performance. It depends sometimes I can download at 300 kb/s,

it depends on what you're downloading, like with direct download you can easily reach 300 kb/s, but with torrents, regardless of the number of seeders, let's not count too much on that. But if you’re doing direct download and the server is good, it should be fine.

michberthier · Answer

Hello, I have the Bell 9241 HD receiver
It has a USB port in the front and one in the back
It also has a built-in network card
How can I transfer my recordings and put them on my computer network?

Is it possible?

The network card connects to my computer's one, but it shows "connector as an unknown network drive"....

Do I need a program?

Or is there a way to put the movies on a USB stick, is that possible?

I’m waiting for your solutions because I’ve been stuck for quite a while and I haven’t found any solutions.

fooster · Answer

Hi Mich,
actually the network card is not yet used by the firmware of the 9241,

hoping that we can upgrade this firmware to enable video file transfer, but I believe the files on the RVP's hard drive are not in DivX or MPEG format; in my opinion, they are encoded in another way.

I did ask the technician if it was possible to extract these recordings and he told me he had already heard that it was possible, but he doesn't know how.

Honestly, I am still waiting for a response to this request.

michberthier · Answer

Yeah, the tech told me that with an external USB hard drive I would be able to get them out
so I tried with a 32GB USB stick

But it seems like the receiver detects that it's not a hard drive because it only gives me image options..

So I'm going to get an external USB2 hard drive to give it a try

If the files are in a format other than those recognized until now, well maybe we'll find a way to convert them!

Thanks and have a nice day!

joelar · Answer

Hello, I am currently testing 160GB external hard drives connected to my 9242 via the USB port. I have nothing on my disk, so the ExpressVu system asks to format it to be usable as a PVR.

You can transfer videos already recorded on your RVPHD to your external hard drive once it has been formatted by the system.

I tried taking the hard drive from a Bell RVP 5900 receiver and inserting it into my external enclosure. I then connect it to my 9242 to see if I can read or transfer my videos from the 5900 to the 9242. Unfortunately, the system detects that it does not have the same configuration to make it work and read videos on the 9242.

The file system created by the Bell ExpressVu system is in EXT2 format. This is a Linux file system.
Someone with a Linux operating system has a good chance of being able to read the videos on their computer and to proceed with the transfer using a compatible Linux program, and that's it.

However, not everyone uses Linux and not everyone knows it. If you know someone who knows Linux, they will be a great help to you.

I am currently going to download Mandrake Move from Unix (it's Linux). This is a bootable operating system on CD that is on the CD itself. You are like in Windows, but instead of being on HDD, it is on CD, so I could access the external hard drive of the receiver and maybe find a program to convert them, but it will take an enormous amount of time.

The best solution would be to find a program to read the external hard drive but connected to the computer without creating a partition or anything else. You could lose your videos. Once the files are read, they need to be copied to our hard drive which will be files named TSP, which is the largest file. These files need to be read by converting them using a program that I have not yet found. Then, if you are reading your videos on Windows, you will be able to do whatever you want with them. Make a DVD, burn them, convert them.

There you go, I hope I saved some time. More news later regarding the other tests.

caillouditcouocu · Answer

To play video formats from Linux on Windows or elsewhere, try perhaps the VLC player. It's made for that.

fooster · Answer

Une fois, j'ai rentré le disque dur externe de 160 Go, faut-il qu'il ait déjà été formaté en EXT2, ou je le laisse en FAT ?

joelar · Answer

Continuing...

I installed Ubuntu Linux on my Windows. I saw the files of my Express View videos. They are folders named with letters and numbers. I copied them all to another partition. I restarted the computer under Windows XP and here it is.

I can see my files under Windows. The same folders and the same names. In each folder, I have 4 different files of different sizes. I imagine that the largest one contains the entire video. The other 3, I don't know.

Here are the 4 files provided to me in each folder, viewed under Windows XP, along with their sizes:

- bm ------ 4 ko
- cat ------ 1 ko
- tsp ------ 3 214 800 ko
- wtt ----- 1 864 ko

Now, I just need to find a program to read them and a program to convert them. The files do not show any extensions under Windows XP or Ubuntu. We have made a good part of the process. Does anyone have suggestions for programs or software?

fooster · Answer

visit this site  https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/274668-Edit-DVR-TSP-and-save-as-MPEG

joelar · Answer

Well, I tried what you suggested. Result: zero and a bar. lol What they're telling me to do is to watch the videos, but it doesn't work.

Since we don't know the extension of the 4 files, it's really hard to find a program that will allow me to read them and a program that will let me convert and burn them afterwards.

I'm continuing my research; I'm going to try to connect directly to the receiver with a crossover cable. Otherwise, I'll try a parallel port; otherwise, we'll see, lol.

Any other suggestions???

joelar · Answer

Well, I installed the Ubuntu operating system from Linux. I can see all my files but cannot read them. I installed VLC for Ubuntu and it didn't work. I'm unable to read the files.

poto123 · Answer

I want to go back to the network card of the 9241, it is currently activated, see this article: http://www.newswire.ca/fr/releases/archive/February2010/12/c8902.html

GrosTetons · Answer

Mmmm, it's all too complicated..... I think I have 2 solutions:

1: buy a Blu-ray burner and then burn the recorded shows or movies (HD)

2: I have TV inputs (coaxial, component, s-video) on my computer. I'll see if
I can record HD directly to my computer...

Thank you,
GrosTetons

mito · Answer

Yes, you can do it. You simply need to connect your external hard drive to the receiver and access the menu, then go to Multimedia and select option 3 in Multimedia, and you can transfer the information to the disk. ;) Good luck. If it doesn't work, you can call tech support (1-888-759-3474), and they will help you do it.

alex94 · Answer

For the network card, it is just used to program your receiver, for example, if you are at a friend's house and suddenly remember that a good show is about to air. You don't want to go back home to program it. You just need to go to bell.ca, then click on "Remote PVR," and there you can access all your recorded shows (you can't watch them on your computer, but you can display them on the TV screen). To return, you can program your shows from the guide on the site, and your show will be recorded. You can also watch movies from channels like Vu! etc...
Here is the link

http://tvonline.bell.ca/tvonline/servlet/CommandServlet?command=flow&processid=201&lang=EN

But your Bell receiver must be connected to the internet, through the Ethernet port.

Thank you
Happy to help you.

joelar · Answer

Yes, I already knew all that. However, the topic is about trying to read the videos already recorded on the external HDD of the ExpressVu receiver and working with them on a computer. On the first day that Bell released its remote access to the RVP, I was already connected, and I could already schedule shows from my cell phone (much faster).

We will wait for new developments sometimes. I have been searching for months on how to hack the Wii 4.3. So far, I haven't found anything that wasn't risky.

But your response is excellent for those who are not aware. Thank you, Alex, we will wait for more results; one day, we will be able to read the ExpressVu files on the computer.

fredy · Answer

no, you can't transfer anything from your 9241 to your computer, they say it's illegal.

bitbucket · Answer

No difference between the 9242 and the 9241??? Well yes, there is a HUGE difference between the two.  The 9242 is a dual tuner... so it works for 2 TVs... you can also use it on one TV and watch 2 shows at the same time (PiP-TV), you can also record 2 shows simultaneously and watch a 3rd one that's already recorded and/or a 4th on the second television.  The 9241 is also a dual tuner but it does not allow you to control 2 TVs.  I think that's a quite significant small difference, don't you???   As for legality... it is perfectly legal to record TV for personal viewing later.  What is illegal... is infringing copyright... for example: putting a paid show or movie online... and/or charging for it.   I would also like to be able to make backups on my PC.  I know that under Linux you can view the partition on the receiver's hard drive as well as the files contained therein... If someone has a solution to change the encoding format to AVI,,, I would be delighted.  Thank you.

bitbucket · Answer

EDIT: I was searching for dishrip on Google and I came across this   Several applications called 'PVRdSE' with 'PVRConv' have been designed to transfer saved recordings from a Dishnet or ExpressVu PVR to your PC hard drive.  PVRdSE is used to transfer the recordings from your PVR to your PC. PVRConv is used to convert the recordings to audio (.MP2/.AC3) and video (MPEG2 .M2V)  The applications require Windows NT/2000/XP running with administrator privileges. They will not run on Windows 95/98/Me. In addition, you will need to know how to remove the hard drive from your Dishplayer and put it in your PC.  The ripped files take up about 1GB for every hour of recording.  There you go, I hope I have helped you.

pitchounat · Answer

Is there anyone with a solution to all this ???? For my part, on Windows, I still can't read the files from the external hard drive that was formatted on the Bell receiver.

pitchounat · Answer

thank you joelar...I just spoke to a technician at Bell and he told me that there is no program capable of reading this format. I would really like to be able to put some TV shows on CD or DVD because keeping them on an external hard drive is going to cost me a lot :(

pitchounat · Answer

Joaler, I thought the same thing, that the Bell technician would definitely not tell me how to proceed....  Mike, you might be right but as Joaler said, everything eventually gets done.... well, I hope....  by the way, why is it illegal to put everything on DVD??? what about our good old VHS systems??? it was legal to record our shows on tapes...  for now, if I buy a DVD recorder and start my archived shows from my hard drive via my Bell receiver, will I be able to record them on my recorder????

Mizzmagoo · Answer

Hello Joelar,  have you managed since all this time?  thank you!

bertr77 · Answer

Hi I also have a Bell 9241. I managed to transfer my recordings from my PVR to an external drive via the USB port (the receiver formatted the drive, and I archived my recordings). On my computer, I installed the EXT2 module to view the Linux partitions. So I copied them to another drive (C or D) on my computer... But the problem persists, it's impossible to read or convert the said files!!!! I even tried a Linux LIVE (booting from the DVD and everything runs in memory) END OF STORY there’s nothing to be done....no reading or conversion... Back to Windows, tried a bunch of programs with no effect!!!! If someone finds the solution without resorting to a CAPTURE, then I’m all ears!!!

GrandBlond-Pléadien · Answer

If television broadcasts are not transferable outside of the Bell Satellite receiver, it may be related to copyright protection or distribution rights elsewhere than on the receiver. But if that's the reason we cannot save recordings, then if you ever have to unsubscribe from Bell for another company and return the receiver to Bell, then goodbye to your movie or show recordings. This is really crap! Long live the good old VHS and DVD recorder. And when will the day come when we have the freedom to broadcast, share, exchange recorded shows or music without worrying about those damned copyright laws that aim to always make you pay, pay, pay more and more $$$$ to buy the same programs? Again, the damn money from this screwed-up system set up by these selfish and corrupt governments and multinational corporations in the music and film industry.

Lili · Answer

Et so, where have you gotten to in your research? I read you and I'm quite lost, but if I buy a DVD burner, will it work with the Bell receiver?

Rod · Answer

Yes, it's possible to use a computer with a TV, a PCI or PCIe TV card.

Kalissi · Answer

Hello,  The first step of my program is complete.  I have performed a reading of the four files in hexadecimal mode. Of course, I had to segment the file (tsp).  Now the second step will be to eliminate the advertisements, which have a specific structure since the beginning and end images of the sponsor are similar.  Even if there is encryption, the byte sequence will be repetitive.  The last step will be the conversion to AVI format; the encryption, if present, will be the biggest challenge, but I have TV shows (SG1 series) that are already in AVI format, with this example I hope to perform the transformation.  The conversion program is written in VB2012, but it will be possible to translate the classes to VB2008 or VB2010.  To be continued ...  K

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