A good alternative to MS Money
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Hello,
Do you know any good software running on Linux that could replace MS Money for personal budgeting?
I have tried Grisbi and KMyMoney, but they are far from the level of refinement of MS Money (I know it's a bit bold to praise a Microsoft software while talking about Linux, but that's my feeling).
Having recently switched to Linux (Ubuntu), I'm trying to find my bearings, but regarding household budgeting and my history of over 8 years, I haven't found a satisfactory solution so far.
Thanks in advance.
Do you know any good software running on Linux that could replace MS Money for personal budgeting?
I have tried Grisbi and KMyMoney, but they are far from the level of refinement of MS Money (I know it's a bit bold to praise a Microsoft software while talking about Linux, but that's my feeling).
Having recently switched to Linux (Ubuntu), I'm trying to find my bearings, but regarding household budgeting and my history of over 8 years, I haven't found a satisfactory solution so far.
Thanks in advance.
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I have the same problem as you, Obonto; the only solution I found is to do a dual boot XP/Ubuntu.
When I switched from Money 2000 to Money 2003, with a single click all my accounts were transferred along with all the history and even the notes!
When a free software is created capable of doing the same thing, we could call it Open Money; the cause of open source would have made a great leap forward.
Thunderbird is capable of retrieving Outlook Express mail, Open Office, for example Calc, can read Excel spreadsheets (except for VB macros). Unfortunately, there is no open source software capable of doing the same with Money.
The Mozilla Foundation has shown that it is possible to surpass Microsoft with Firefox; this is the path that needs to be followed!
Open Money would be compatible with Windows, Linux, Mac OS, and being open source, the new versions would be compatible with the old ones (unlike Money).
Unfortunately for the world of free software, Open Money does not exist.
When I switched from Money 2000 to Money 2003, with a single click all my accounts were transferred along with all the history and even the notes!
When a free software is created capable of doing the same thing, we could call it Open Money; the cause of open source would have made a great leap forward.
Thunderbird is capable of retrieving Outlook Express mail, Open Office, for example Calc, can read Excel spreadsheets (except for VB macros). Unfortunately, there is no open source software capable of doing the same with Money.
The Mozilla Foundation has shown that it is possible to surpass Microsoft with Firefox; this is the path that needs to be followed!
Open Money would be compatible with Windows, Linux, Mac OS, and being open source, the new versions would be compatible with the old ones (unlike Money).
Unfortunately for the world of free software, Open Money does not exist.
Hello,
GnuCash is much more efficient than MS Money, for your information it retrieves Money backups without any problem.
See you later
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GnuCash is much more efficient than MS Money, for your information it retrieves Money backups without any problem.
See you later
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FC 10 - Mandriva 2009 - Debian 4.0 -
The best things require patience. (JC ANGLADE)
To be honest, I use Money for basic purposes. I don’t need any Internet access (Money is actually blocked by my firewall). I only use it to manage my accounts and to be able to retrieve a specific transaction when needed. And for that, this program perfectly meets my needs, including the layout of the windows (except for the missing column width adjustment).
Of course, I tried to export my data in QIF format to test other applications.
And there, it's really disappointing. I dream of a free program that can directly (and cleanly) import .mny or .mbf files.
Of course, I tried to export my data in QIF format to test other applications.
And there, it's really disappointing. I dream of a free program that can directly (and cleanly) import .mny or .mbf files.
The backup files from Money are .mbf files that GnuCash cannot import. It can only import .qif files like all other personal finance software.
Imports must be done account by account, and if you have accounts with multiple banks, online banks, savings plans, this quickly becomes unmanageable!
No, there should be software, Open Money, which with a single click retrieves the .mbf backup file and thus allows recovering all accounts with their notes, the banking institutions...
I believe that Money is based on Access which must be written in C.
Is it therefore unfeasible to build a free personal finance software that stands out, is usable on all platforms Linux, Windows, Mac OS, and becomes a reference?
Imports must be done account by account, and if you have accounts with multiple banks, online banks, savings plans, this quickly becomes unmanageable!
No, there should be software, Open Money, which with a single click retrieves the .mbf backup file and thus allows recovering all accounts with their notes, the banking institutions...
I believe that Money is based on Access which must be written in C.
Is it therefore unfeasible to build a free personal finance software that stands out, is usable on all platforms Linux, Windows, Mac OS, and becomes a reference?
Hello,
I completely agree with this. But Microsoft should step in for all those people who invested in Money "for my part Money 2002 that I bought" and who, due to a bug, are depriving a lot of people of their banking data; for me, it's ten years of work lost!
We could sue Microsoft to force them to solve this issue and publish a fix for this software. It certainly shouldn't be too much to ask of this company. Such a gesture would be greatly appreciated!
I completely agree with this. But Microsoft should step in for all those people who invested in Money "for my part Money 2002 that I bought" and who, due to a bug, are depriving a lot of people of their banking data; for me, it's ten years of work lost!
We could sue Microsoft to force them to solve this issue and publish a fix for this software. It certainly shouldn't be too much to ask of this company. Such a gesture would be greatly appreciated!
For me, the best solution is Skrooge.
https://skrooge.org/
It is very similar to Money and very easy to use.
In addition, it has:
Undo / redo
Bulk editing
Dynamic budgeting
Search and process
It is very strong for imports and can therefore be easily tested.
https://skrooge.org/
It is very similar to Money and very easy to use.
In addition, it has:
Undo / redo
Bulk editing
Dynamic budgeting
Search and process
It is very strong for imports and can therefore be easily tested.
Hello,
I had the same problem: 14 years of history in MS Money.
Having tried almost all of them (Gnucash, Grisby, Homebank, Kmymoney .....) my opinion is as follows:
Kmymoney is the most complete personal accounting software on Linux.
I even transferred all my accounts there, including the history.
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I therefore think I'm wiping
I had the same problem: 14 years of history in MS Money.
Having tried almost all of them (Gnucash, Grisby, Homebank, Kmymoney .....) my opinion is as follows:
Kmymoney is the most complete personal accounting software on Linux.
I even transferred all my accounts there, including the history.
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I therefore think I'm wiping
Yes, he also does the stock market.
For the MsMoney / data transfer debate... The important question is whether MsMoney allows me to export my data in a standard, recognized, documented format that enables other software to read my data... i.e., QIF for accounting data.
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For the MsMoney / data transfer debate... The important question is whether MsMoney allows me to export my data in a standard, recognized, documented format that enables other software to read my data... i.e., QIF for accounting data.
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Xiloa
core2duo/SUSE11.1 x86_64 // eeePC 701/easyPeasy // lenovo3000/suse11.0 // X20/lenny
Hello,
It looks really nice, but it has a drawback: it's not free and there is no indication of a license on the site or in the installer. (I tested it to be sure).
I am extremely wary of anything that is not free and that piles on features like automatic updates, cuckoo gadgets, and moo sounds in the corners... because sooner or later, you pay for it...
Better to use free tools, especially for things as important as your bank accounts or your messaging, as it can save you from unpleasant surprises. The day you want to switch applications, you might not be able to recover your data, for example (this has already happened with some proprietary software: example IncrediMail), or you will recover them in a not quite optimized format.
Apparently, there is Homebank which would allow for projections. I haven't tried it, but that's what I've read about it on FRAMASOFT. (www.framasoft.net) Take a look at their site, it's a gold mine of information about current free software. They are missing a few, but it is already a good knowledge base.
See you later.
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It looks really nice, but it has a drawback: it's not free and there is no indication of a license on the site or in the installer. (I tested it to be sure).
I am extremely wary of anything that is not free and that piles on features like automatic updates, cuckoo gadgets, and moo sounds in the corners... because sooner or later, you pay for it...
Better to use free tools, especially for things as important as your bank accounts or your messaging, as it can save you from unpleasant surprises. The day you want to switch applications, you might not be able to recover your data, for example (this has already happened with some proprietary software: example IncrediMail), or you will recover them in a not quite optimized format.
Apparently, there is Homebank which would allow for projections. I haven't tried it, but that's what I've read about it on FRAMASOFT. (www.framasoft.net) Take a look at their site, it's a gold mine of information about current free software. They are missing a few, but it is already a good knowledge base.
See you later.
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A preconceived idea is often a dead idea.
Hello,
of course GnuCash can import files from MS Money, just export (make sure not to take the backups, lol) to QIF and then import into GnuCash in QIF format and there you go...
See you later
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FC 10 - Mandriva 2009 - Debian 4.0 -
The best things take time. (JC ANGLADE)
of course GnuCash can import files from MS Money, just export (make sure not to take the backups, lol) to QIF and then import into GnuCash in QIF format and there you go...
See you later
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FC 10 - Mandriva 2009 - Debian 4.0 -
The best things take time. (JC ANGLADE)
Hello
I've tested KMyMoney and GnuCash, I kept GnuCash
by the way, it easily retrieves the MSMoney backups, I load my statements in Money format.
See you later
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The best things require patience. (JC ANGLADE)
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I've tested KMyMoney and GnuCash, I kept GnuCash
by the way, it easily retrieves the MSMoney backups, I load my statements in Money format.
See you later
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The best things require patience. (JC ANGLADE)
Think about the tips https://www.commentcamarche.net/list
Good evening
As a precaution, I want to migrate from Money99, which is still working very well and satisfies me perfectly until the day when... there will be no more solution since it is nearing its end of life. On Windows, GNUCash seems to come close, so I downloaded it.
Issue: I can't import my QIF files (none of the 2 QIF formats offered by Money). The same files have been read by another software I tested, but that doesn't manage investments. If I try to import all the files at once, I get a QIF import error message, and if I try to import one file at a time and let it find account matches, it finds absolutely no match, and I don't see any amounts showing up anywhere, so I deduce that it's not importing anything.
Does anyone have any idea where the problem might lie? My QIF files seem to have a standard structure (as far as I can judge, not being a computer expert but being able to somewhat read QIF format files as found on Wikipedia or elsewhere)
Best regards
Philchuck
As a precaution, I want to migrate from Money99, which is still working very well and satisfies me perfectly until the day when... there will be no more solution since it is nearing its end of life. On Windows, GNUCash seems to come close, so I downloaded it.
Issue: I can't import my QIF files (none of the 2 QIF formats offered by Money). The same files have been read by another software I tested, but that doesn't manage investments. If I try to import all the files at once, I get a QIF import error message, and if I try to import one file at a time and let it find account matches, it finds absolutely no match, and I don't see any amounts showing up anywhere, so I deduce that it's not importing anything.
Does anyone have any idea where the problem might lie? My QIF files seem to have a standard structure (as far as I can judge, not being a computer expert but being able to somewhat read QIF format files as found on Wikipedia or elsewhere)
Best regards
Philchuck
A free replacement for Money: viCompte
The tutorial to recover all your Microsoft Money data:
http://www.vionline.fr/joomla/accueil/aide/questions/190-nd14-import-fichiers-microsoft-money.html
VIO ;)
The tutorial to recover all your Microsoft Money data:
http://www.vionline.fr/joomla/accueil/aide/questions/190-nd14-import-fichiers-microsoft-money.html
VIO ;)
Kmymoney is the one I've been using since 2006 when I left Windows, I still don't understand why Gnucash or Skrooge are set as default in distributions, well there is probably a reason.
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Hello everyone,
As a Money user for over 15 years (I had to buy 4/5 versions of Money), I CURSE Microsoft for having recently stopped (end of 2011?) the updates for Money.
I want to clarify that it's not a platform issue since there are still compatibility modes for XP on W7, but a simple problem of updates.
Indeed, during the installation of Money (still possible on W7), an automatic update was performed and a patch made the software compatible with previous versions. This is no longer possible today.
Replacement software exists (Gnucash...), but it is not easy to safely transfer tens of thousands of lines securely.
So congratulations to Microsoft for undoubtedly frustrating millions of users around the world (MONEY was very popular if you browse the US sites) by conforming to their stupid policy (2 years of support after product discontinuation!) Continuing to provide this patch would represent no expense for this software giant that has become imperialist with attitudes like this.
Fortunately, in France, there's no oil but there are ideas!
I found a solution on Ballajack's site
https://www.ballajack.com/comment-installer-money-2005-dernier-patche
which consists of recreating an installation ISO that includes the necessary patch to reinstall Money on a new platform (W7 and I think the problem now exists with XP).
I recently succeeded in reinstalling MONEY on W7 (64b Ultimate) and it works (but I couldn't manage to create a new installation CD, you need to boot from the PC).
In conclusion, shame on Microsoft, a huge thank you to Eric!
I hope that MICROSOFT will read this post one day.
Good luck to all.
Jacques
As a Money user for over 15 years (I had to buy 4/5 versions of Money), I CURSE Microsoft for having recently stopped (end of 2011?) the updates for Money.
I want to clarify that it's not a platform issue since there are still compatibility modes for XP on W7, but a simple problem of updates.
Indeed, during the installation of Money (still possible on W7), an automatic update was performed and a patch made the software compatible with previous versions. This is no longer possible today.
Replacement software exists (Gnucash...), but it is not easy to safely transfer tens of thousands of lines securely.
So congratulations to Microsoft for undoubtedly frustrating millions of users around the world (MONEY was very popular if you browse the US sites) by conforming to their stupid policy (2 years of support after product discontinuation!) Continuing to provide this patch would represent no expense for this software giant that has become imperialist with attitudes like this.
Fortunately, in France, there's no oil but there are ideas!
I found a solution on Ballajack's site
https://www.ballajack.com/comment-installer-money-2005-dernier-patche
which consists of recreating an installation ISO that includes the necessary patch to reinstall Money on a new platform (W7 and I think the problem now exists with XP).
I recently succeeded in reinstalling MONEY on W7 (64b Ultimate) and it works (but I couldn't manage to create a new installation CD, you need to boot from the PC).
In conclusion, shame on Microsoft, a huge thank you to Eric!
I hope that MICROSOFT will read this post one day.
Good luck to all.
Jacques
That's a good question, xiloa.
As a user, you rarely have this type of inquiry.
The right question from another user (me, for example) would be whether a particular software is ergonomic, practical, and gives me satisfactory visibility on the evolution of my budget.
For your question, xiloa, the answer is yes, MS Money exports and imports QIF.
For my question, unfortunately, I have come to the realization that no open-source software equals MS Money today on all these points.
It seems a bit normal to me since the largest contributions to open source come from companies, and no company has an interest in implementing a personal budget tracking tool because the companies contributing to open source sell support... What support can be commercialized for personal budgeting?
So today, I'm using a virtualized Windows environment that only runs MS Money.
As a user, you rarely have this type of inquiry.
The right question from another user (me, for example) would be whether a particular software is ergonomic, practical, and gives me satisfactory visibility on the evolution of my budget.
For your question, xiloa, the answer is yes, MS Money exports and imports QIF.
For my question, unfortunately, I have come to the realization that no open-source software equals MS Money today on all these points.
It seems a bit normal to me since the largest contributions to open source come from companies, and no company has an interest in implementing a personal budget tracking tool because the companies contributing to open source sell support... What support can be commercialized for personal budgeting?
So today, I'm using a virtualized Windows environment that only runs MS Money.
A bet ?? It's actually my daily concern.
Personally, after having had numerous professional setbacks because of Excel 2003/2007, it's my issue.
Having spent a fortune on SonicStage only to no longer be able to read my files, which even Sony has abandoned the format for, :-/ ... it's my concern.
On the contrary, it's a growing concern shared by many, as the nonsense of proprietary software is extensive and bothersome for users.
Moreover, KmyMoney is very good, and besides, the death of MS Money is announced in Redmond... unfortunate for those users :)
Fortunately, you still have QIF for export :)))
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Xiloa
core2duo/SUSE11.1 x86_64 // eeePC 701/easyPeasy // lenovo3000/suse11.0 // X20/lenny
Personally, after having had numerous professional setbacks because of Excel 2003/2007, it's my issue.
Having spent a fortune on SonicStage only to no longer be able to read my files, which even Sony has abandoned the format for, :-/ ... it's my concern.
On the contrary, it's a growing concern shared by many, as the nonsense of proprietary software is extensive and bothersome for users.
Moreover, KmyMoney is very good, and besides, the death of MS Money is announced in Redmond... unfortunate for those users :)
Fortunately, you still have QIF for export :)))
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Xiloa
core2duo/SUSE11.1 x86_64 // eeePC 701/easyPeasy // lenovo3000/suse11.0 // X20/lenny
Hi,
there may be others to try:
https://linuxappfinder.com/businessandfinance/accounting?page=1
for example this one: "Money Manager EX"
https://framalibre.org
I don't know anything about accounting software...
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there may be others to try:
https://linuxappfinder.com/businessandfinance/accounting?page=1
for example this one: "Money Manager EX"
https://framalibre.org
I don't know anything about accounting software...
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Hello,
Regarding performance, I would go for GNU Cash.
It is far superior to M$ Money and on top of that, you can recover your files with it.
There are many nice features, personally, I’m very happy with it.
Grisbi is also very good, but a bit less comprehensive, I’ll give you that.
See you soon.
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A received idea is often a dead idea.
Regarding performance, I would go for GNU Cash.
It is far superior to M$ Money and on top of that, you can recover your files with it.
There are many nice features, personally, I’m very happy with it.
Grisbi is also very good, but a bit less comprehensive, I’ll give you that.
See you soon.
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A received idea is often a dead idea.
Hello,
For several years now, I have been following the development of GnuCash, Grisbi, and the like. Unfortunately, I always end up back on MSMoney (under Ubuntu + Wine) because it is the only one that gives me projections into the future based on the budget and scheduled transactions in the timeline.
That is the feature I am looking for and can't find in the others. It seems that it was planned for Grisbi 0.6, but after 3 years without development, this project seems dead.
Does anyone know of software that does this type of projection? I would be happy to get rid of MS Money.
For several years now, I have been following the development of GnuCash, Grisbi, and the like. Unfortunately, I always end up back on MSMoney (under Ubuntu + Wine) because it is the only one that gives me projections into the future based on the budget and scheduled transactions in the timeline.
That is the feature I am looking for and can't find in the others. It seems that it was planned for Grisbi 0.6, but after 3 years without development, this project seems dead.
Does anyone know of software that does this type of projection? I would be happy to get rid of MS Money.
Hello,
I encountered the same issue as you: finding a good alternative to Money; especially with its ability to forecast the cash flow based on ongoing and upcoming transactions.
And I found it... BankManager: a very good "Money-like" application that is free to use, with even some features unknown in Money! And it has this cash flow projection function with a nice graph... Several forecasting options are available (end of the current month, end of next month, tomorrow, in a week, custom date...).
You can even create so-called "ghost" forecast transactions, meaning they can change (e.g., I forecast repairs on my car estimated at 500 euros and... surprise, I only spent 375 euros).
Currently, I am entering my transactions in "double" to compare (Money and BankManager) and I must say I haven't encountered any notable errors.
It also includes a module for investments (which I won't discuss here as I don't manage that...) and another for tracking device warranties (yes, yes!) and many other features (see Money's schedule for automatic operations).
Getting the hang of it requires some prior documentation (online documentation), but after that, it's great!
The author (whom you can always compensate to "encourage" him) has been working on it for a long time and continuously improves his product.
See his site here http://web.banquemanager.net/news/news.php
I encountered the same issue as you: finding a good alternative to Money; especially with its ability to forecast the cash flow based on ongoing and upcoming transactions.
And I found it... BankManager: a very good "Money-like" application that is free to use, with even some features unknown in Money! And it has this cash flow projection function with a nice graph... Several forecasting options are available (end of the current month, end of next month, tomorrow, in a week, custom date...).
You can even create so-called "ghost" forecast transactions, meaning they can change (e.g., I forecast repairs on my car estimated at 500 euros and... surprise, I only spent 375 euros).
Currently, I am entering my transactions in "double" to compare (Money and BankManager) and I must say I haven't encountered any notable errors.
It also includes a module for investments (which I won't discuss here as I don't manage that...) and another for tracking device warranties (yes, yes!) and many other features (see Money's schedule for automatic operations).
Getting the hang of it requires some prior documentation (online documentation), but after that, it's great!
The author (whom you can always compensate to "encourage" him) has been working on it for a long time and continuously improves his product.
See his site here http://web.banquemanager.net/news/news.php
Attention, KMyMoney has a very dynamic development team. This software is worth keeping an eye on. As for me, I am satisfied with it. It is on par with GnuCash.
Well, my wife used an EBP software that she bought for 99F back in the day.
Since I was planning to migrate from an aging W98 to GNU/Linux Debian (I skipped XP), I turned to Grisbi under Windows.
During the migration to Debian, all the data from various software followed (bank accounts, emails, bookmarks, etc...)
Since then, it's been peace of mind :-)
Well, I have to admit that I work in IT, so at home in the evenings, I don't want to do overtime, you know!
Since I was planning to migrate from an aging W98 to GNU/Linux Debian (I skipped XP), I turned to Grisbi under Windows.
During the migration to Debian, all the data from various software followed (bank accounts, emails, bookmarks, etc...)
Since then, it's been peace of mind :-)
Well, I have to admit that I work in IT, so at home in the evenings, I don't want to do overtime, you know!