Orange Decoder

Philippe-92 Posted messages 7 Status Member -  
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Hello, Orange installed fiber for us on March 18th, and we now have a new Orange decoder. But when we want to watch a VHS tape or a DVD with our VCR, we have to unplug the decoder. Yesterday, a gentleman from Orange told us that with the new decoders, it's impossible to record with a VCR due to piracy concerns. Someone on eBay wrote to me that we would need another TNT decoder with double SCART to record one channel while watching another. Thank you for your help, best regards.

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brucine Posted messages 24732 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   4 153
 
Good evening,

There is no relation to the recording via the VCR: connected not to the TV decoder but directly to the TV as usual (Scart, HDMI...?), the content should continue to play if the correct source is selected on the TV.

The rights indeed oppose recordings from a TV decoder to an external medium (unless possibly it has a Scart output, and in low quality).

In these conditions, to record, one must either use the Orange options (integrated hard drive in the TV decoder or Cloud), or use an external tuner, as long as it is simple.

The result can be achieved with a TNT decoder-recorder coupled with an external hard drive and connected to the antenna if it exists, but of course only for TNT, or by a DVD recorder-player under the same conditions.

I don't know if the traditional VCR connected to the TV in these conditions provides the same function (also only TNT) since it would also need to use its own tuner, not the one from the TV, where one could not then watch another program.
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baladur13 Posted messages 47303 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention   14 384
 
Hello
What are the references (Brand and model) of the television and the VCR?
Which Orange TV box do you own?
This one?
How are the various devices connected?
HDMI cable from the decoder's HDMI output to the television's HDMI input? Which one?
Cables between the VCR and the television – what type? HDMI and/or SCART), connected to which socket(s) on the VCR and which socket(s) on the television?
Very difficult to catch a black cat in a dark room.
Especially when it isn't there...
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Philippe-92 Posted messages 7 Status Member
 
For the VCR, it is a combined LG RC388 VCR DVD recorder VHS video cassette player, television: Samsung LW20M21CP A, SCART socket at the back, there is an antenna input, but it is no longer used because we no longer have a rooftop antenna. The Livebox is the latest model: black Livebox 5.
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Philippe-92 Posted messages 7 Status Member
 
The Orange decoder is a Sagem Com RTIB421-320FT. We initially had the small decoder like the one in your photo, but we had to exchange it because there was an incompatibility with the HDMI Scart adapter. We had to buy two adapters: one for 3 male RCA Scart plugs for the decoder and the television. We had bought a female-to-female adapter, but it was for the small decoder. It is no longer useful to us.
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baladur13 Posted messages 47303 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention   14 384
 
Okay for the Orange decoder.
So it's this one: https://cdn.woopic.com/c10f167280f2414abb346a5347e1ecd9/prod/binaries/files/804017_19218243_2_Guide_Decodeur_Livebox_Play.pdf

and you use the composite audio/video output jacks to connect a SCART adapter. Red and white: audio (R-right L-left). Yellow: video (analog output).
Does your television not have an HDMI port?
This decoder, like the previous model (HD), can allow you to record with the purchase of an external hard drive to connect to the USB port of this decoder.

The television is already old and only has a SCART port, an S-Video input, a composite YUV input, and a VGA port.
The VCR is also relatively old
Connections of the LG RC388 recorder
Video Outputs: SCART • S-Video (x1) • YUV (x1)
Video Inputs: SCART • DV / Firewire (x1)

Recording programs broadcast by the decoder with your VCR doesn't seem straightforward to me...
unless you go through an HDMI to SCART converter which will degrade the image, but your television is not suited for high definition and you say you had trouble with this type of converter on the first Orange decoder.
On the other hand, to solve the problem of the cable to unplug, it seems to me that you could directly connect the Orange decoder with the 3 RCA cable and the VCR directly with a SCART cable.

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Very difficult to catch a black cat in a dark room.
Especially when it's not there...
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