S63 Ringtone

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baladur13 Posted messages 47322 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention   -
Hello everyone,
I just found a SOCOTEL S63 phone at a flea market that I managed to make work for incoming calls on my Box.
However, the phone's ringer works very quietly.
This ringer consists of a coil, two bells, and a double hammer.
Does anyone have any ideas on how to make this ringer louder, like adding a small transformer to increase the coil's current or replacing the spring with something else, etc.?
Thank you in advance for your suggestions
Larry

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  1. Redbart Posted messages 20952 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   3 382
     
    Hello
    the box is not France Telecom

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    1. brupala Posted messages 111140 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   14 441
       
      Hi,
      France Télécom has not existed for almost 8 years now; it has been called Orange since then.
      But it's true that the boxes are far from delivering the 90V ringing of the PBX, which are the only ones capable of really shaking the bells of the S63.
      As for adding a transformer, that could significantly complicate the detection of the picking up (establishment of the direct current).
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      1. Larrymachines > brupala Posted messages 111140 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention  
         
        Hello, thank you for your response. The box only delivers 50V AC measured with a multimeter. I'm trying to find out if anyone has ever tried to solve this issue.
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      2. brupala Posted messages 111140 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   14 441 > Larrymachines
         
        It seemed to me, yes, plus it should be a square signal, not sinusoidal, I think I've read that one day, but I don't know if it's generalized to all boxes, but anyway, this signal is perfectly suited for modern electronic phones, which recreate their ringtones (we should rather say melodies) internally upon detection of these impulses.
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    2. Larrymachines
       
      The box I'm connected to is the latest SFR model NB6.
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  2. Redbart Posted messages 20952 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   3 382
     
    orange will change its name when the trial for non-assistance is over, to make the culprit forget

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    1. brupala Posted messages 111140 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   14 441
       
      Yes,
      I don't know who will be blamed in the case, but certainly some subcontractor, not Orange.
      Orange is responsible towards the users, but probably not guilty.
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  3. baladur13 Posted messages 47322 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention   14 387
     
    Hello,
    Unless I'm mistaken, there is an adjustment that allows you to adjust the current in the open circuit.
    See the red arrow in the image below
    This could affect the ringtone...

    And the diagram of a Socotel with a rotary dial

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    1. brupala Posted messages 111140 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   14 441
       
      Hi Edouard,
      no, it's not related to the ringing; at the time of the ringing, the 52V DC circuit is open and the current is zero, see the hung-up inverter.
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      1. baladur13 Posted messages 47322 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention   14 387 > brupala Posted messages 111140 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention  
         
        Indeed, the "Idle current" is incorrect... the adjustment was meant to ensure that there was 40mA in the circuit when disconnecting. (see in the middle of the page http://alain.levasseur.pagesperso-orange.fr/page22.htm)
        However, during the ringing, an alternating or square signal arrives between terminals 1 and 3, and the upper resistances depending on the adjustment can modify the overall impedance of the circuit where the "Hum" is located.
        And thus make the ringing more or less "aggressive".
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      2. brupala Posted messages 111140 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   14 441 > baladur13 Posted messages 47322 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention  
         
        Your link doesn't work Edouard :-(
        After that,
        it is possible that setting the current adjustment slider to 1 helps a little in limit conditions like on a box, indeed.
        But in my younger years, I used to connect them to radio equipment that simulated a line and we never used them to adjust the ring level, from what I remember, that dates back to the late 70s, however it could or could not trigger the detection of the off-hook or disrupt the dialing, which was also based on the line current.
        In fact, back then, since we couldn't transmit the ringing signal via radio, we settled for detecting it in an optocoupler to generate a particular signal, which activated a 50Hz oscillator on the other end.
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      3. baladur13 Posted messages 47322 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention   14 387 > brupala Posted messages 111140 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention  
         
        There was an extra l at the end of the link.
        There was html instead of htm.
        It’s fixed.
        Thank you.
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