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Hello,

I have a question about shortcuts because I always have this issue with sharing between my W10 tower and my son's laptop.

It appears in the network, I can access it with some difficulty that I seem to have bypassed, but when I add the user folder, it sometimes gives me a "path not found" message. This just happened to me with another tower that was working quite well and whose shortcut in This PC just failed.

However, if this network resource is a separate folder on a hard drive, it opens up.

If I connect to the user folders of each PC, the hierarchy displays fine and I can finally write to the drives if I go through the network.

I’m not sure if I explained it well, but if someone understands
that I'm talking about 2 places on my PC and could explain why it works this way, that would be great.

Thanks everyone
jag72

In the end, that seems to be it.
I put a network location on the workstation that corresponds to a hard drive, and in the network, I can create a shortcut to user folders on my desktop.

That's why it only works at the time of creation in the location, but once the PCs are shut down, it falls apart! :o

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    yg_be Posted messages 23437 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   Ambassadeur 1 588
     
    I think this discussion is about Windows, not about networking.

    I read that:
    - access works well, but by adding the user folder, it no longer works
    - access to a separate folder on a hard drive works well
    - everything works well when connecting to the user folders of each PC
    - I'm talking about 2 locations on my PC
    - once the PCs are shut down, it all goes down the drain

    That's way too many scenarios. Can you focus on just one, and give more details on what you are doing specifically?

    You are not explaining how security functions between these computers.
    I suspect that depending on the account used to access a computer, we have access to certain items, and not others.
    I also suspect that you are connecting without specifying which account you are using, so you are not controlling which account you are using.
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    1. jag72 Posted messages 14864 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   2 790
       
      Hello and thank you for stopping by.

      So since my session I want to transfer files to my son's computer but without going through the public folder.
      I had a few setbacks with an IP that changed at every startup which I managed to fix by deactivating a button that was turned on.

      So in the Network hierarchy I finally connected the PC.
      But if you add the user folder to network locations, I can only connect at the moment of creating this shortcut.
      After a night’s sleep, with the PC turned off, it no longer works.
      Unlike the hard drives that I also shared on my main machine.

      So one place is This PC
      and another Network

      I think this creates a sort of shortcut duplication and it fails on the one from this PC because I noticed in Network that you could create a desktop shortcut using the send to function. While I was struggling to find it in This PC which was formerly called My Computer.

      So only the hard drives are a network location and not the entire session of a PC.

      Are you able to follow my explanations?

      For tonight my issue is resolved, but tomorrow when I wake up I'll see if it holds up this time.
      In a little while I'll have another machine to set up on my PC because the more talent I gain, the more my family will start calling me network administrator. ^_^
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    2. yg_be Posted messages 23437 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   1 588 > jag72 Posted messages 14864 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention  
       
      You don't explain how security works between these computers.

      "You add the user folder in network location"; how?
      "to the hard drives that I also shared on my main machine": example?
      In certain places, do you associate a letter with the locations?

      "Only hard drives are a network location and not the entire session of a PC": no, I'm not.
      Give examples.
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    3. jag72 Posted messages 14864 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   2 790 > yg_be Posted messages 23437 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
       
      Whoa!! I'll need to make a video then.

      On your machine, go to This PC, then right-click at the bottom and you'll see in the context menu Add a network location.
      My PCs are detectable, so I go to the other machine, create a folder named after the hard drive within that same drive.
      Then I share this folder, which is supposed to represent it as the root of the directory, since the rest is more difficult to do and makes it visible on my private network.

      Then I add it as follows by right-clicking as mentioned above and enter the address from the properties card read on the remote machine.

      Example:
      \\windows-10\DriveName

      AND I can access it

      The security is Defender and the network and sharing center.
      Nothing too difficult really after some practice.

      But do not set the network location to \\PC name or IP\Users\session name
      because it is already available in the network display.

      Are you following?
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    4. yg_be Posted messages 23437 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   1 588 > jag72 Posted messages 14864 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention  
       
      security: you should never enter a password to access data from other PCs, neither the first time nor afterwards?

      I'm lost when I read "create a folder named after the hard drive in this drive of the same name".
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    5. jag72 Posted messages 14864 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   2 790 > yg_be Posted messages 23437 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
       
      No. I seem to be going in through the backdoor.
      I don't have a user session in my name, and I'm accessing my son's session without a password by sharing his folders with everyone but limiting it to one user. Me. :)

      Well, you can share an entire hard drive at the root of its letter, but that's too complicated, so I'm putting a folder inside it that bears his name for recognition on the network, and I'm sharing that folder to detect it on my main PC.
      I did a restart for him and it still works. :)

      I've prepared a small snapshot from VNC Viewer for you to better understand the names of my PCs, which are also detected by my Windows 10.


      And I can also see them through Windows from my explorer.

      So assuming I install an empty hard drive on the first admin PC, I create a new folder in it with the name of the PC and the drive letter. I share that folder, and thus I get its path on the network that I add to my PC.
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  2. jag72 Posted messages 14864 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   2 790
     
    Yes!
    You followed it well.
    You see three PCs in the screenshot and the fourth one with which I'm responding to you. :)

    Well, the essential thing is that it's finally working. I initially wanted to know the difference between the two distinct places: This PC and the network dialog box.

    So I suppose that:
    Adding a network location visible from This PC (Computer) is meant to see storage resources like hard drives, while the network location displays PCs and possibly shared folders.

    I'm going to bed with this solution.

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  3. barnabe0057 Posted messages 14329 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 930
     
    Hello,

    I think you're trying to use "network neighborhood," unfortunately, that's not a good idea because it rarely works stably.

    I suggest, as in a business, connecting network drives; it will work much better:
    https://www.varcap-informatique.net/tutoriels/comment-connecter-un-lecteur-reseau-sur-windows-10/

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    1. jag72 Posted messages 14864 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   2 790
       
      Hello,

      Indeed, it must be the neighborhood because your solution allows me to see the capacity of the disk but only the disk where Windows is located on the remote PC.



      Unfortunately, it was too good to be true.
      I believe that with this mode of connection, network drives can only be seen from one W10 to another but not from my Seven.

      Is there a solution to see the others on the same PC?

      And there you go! I reconnect a tower and that is inaccessible.
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    2. barnabe0057 Posted messages 14329 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 930 > jag72 Posted messages 14864 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention  
       
      Share your drives and connect network drives, you are just limited by the number of available letters.
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    3. jag72 Posted messages 14864 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   2 790 > barnabe0057 Posted messages 14329 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
       
      I'm going to bed.
      I just messed up a partition by accidentally deleting my son's videos.
      If you tinker too late, all you do is make a mess. :'(
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    4. jag72 Posted messages 14864 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   2 790 > barnabe0057 Posted messages 14329 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
       
      Hello barnabe0057.

      Well, I finally understood, but I'm stuck on this password issue that I don't want to disable on a PC that refuses to let me.

      On the Seven, the password is accepted without having a session in my name, but on the laptop, I can only access it by disabling the password.

      Although it is stated on both that if there is no account, it must be disabled, I would like to understand why it doesn't work on one of them.

      I have all the right login information to get in.
      So if I delete the password, I can connect, then I reactivate it, I'm still logged in, but when I restart the laptop, I can’t log in again.

      So does Windows manage a strong password well? With @@ in it?
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    5. yg_be Posted messages 23437 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   1 588 > jag72 Posted messages 14864 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention  
       
      For me, if you have an account and a password on the remote computer, you need to specify this account and password at the time of logging in. If you change the password later, the saved connection will no longer work.

      The situation can sometimes be confusing if you use the same accounts (possibly with the same passwords) on multiple computers.

      For example, to create a connection via a command prompt, if the account is jojo: 
      net use \\windows-10\Disk name /u:jojo

      and it will ask you for jojo's password on the windows-10 computer. 

      net use
      will show you the saved connections.
      The Credential Manager will display the saved login information.
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  4. jag72 Posted messages 14864 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   2 790
     
    Well, I'm marking this as resolved this time.

    The network location is probably the neighborhood and not reading and writing to a disk, but with the option to disable password-protected sharing in the network center.

    Here is a very satisfactory result, and we can also rename these as well as multimedia shares.

    Otherwise, I wouldn't have taken a screenshot with my kids' address. ;)



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