Old Game (PowerPC) on CD
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Hello,
Three weeks ago, I received a used Mac game CD I purchased on Amazon (Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, yes it's old, yes I'm nostalgic).
The box clearly stated that the game was compatible with Mac OS 8.6 or later and Mac OSX (I had actually confirmed this with the seller before buying).
However, it was not specified on the box that Power PC applications were required, which are supported only up to Mac OSX 10.6. I am on Mac OSX 10.11, so my Mac no longer supports Power PC applications and I cannot read the game CD.
Fortunately, I got my grandmother's old Mac, which does support these applications since it runs on Mac OSX 10.4.
Unfortunately, the CD/DVD drive no longer works, so I decided to order a cheap external drive from Amazon. What a bad idea, it didn't work at all, with any CD or DVD, on any computer, a real scam, so I sent it back and just received another external drive (more expensive) that reads DVDs fine on the old computer in question, but does not recognize the game CD...
I've been spending time, energy, but mostly money from the start (expensive game, external drives, shipping...) and still can't play this damn game...
Does anyone have a solution? Either to use this fairly old game on my relatively recent computer or to be able to play it on the old Mac whose drive no longer works and where the two previous external drives didn't work... I'm losing hope!
And above all, I'm not at all knowledgeable in technical vocabulary, so please, if I may ask, I need simplicity!
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Three weeks ago, I received a used Mac game CD I purchased on Amazon (Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, yes it's old, yes I'm nostalgic).
The box clearly stated that the game was compatible with Mac OS 8.6 or later and Mac OSX (I had actually confirmed this with the seller before buying).
However, it was not specified on the box that Power PC applications were required, which are supported only up to Mac OSX 10.6. I am on Mac OSX 10.11, so my Mac no longer supports Power PC applications and I cannot read the game CD.
Fortunately, I got my grandmother's old Mac, which does support these applications since it runs on Mac OSX 10.4.
Unfortunately, the CD/DVD drive no longer works, so I decided to order a cheap external drive from Amazon. What a bad idea, it didn't work at all, with any CD or DVD, on any computer, a real scam, so I sent it back and just received another external drive (more expensive) that reads DVDs fine on the old computer in question, but does not recognize the game CD...
I've been spending time, energy, but mostly money from the start (expensive game, external drives, shipping...) and still can't play this damn game...
Does anyone have a solution? Either to use this fairly old game on my relatively recent computer or to be able to play it on the old Mac whose drive no longer works and where the two previous external drives didn't work... I'm losing hope!
And above all, I'm not at all knowledgeable in technical vocabulary, so please, if I may ask, I need simplicity!
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Hello,
I believe that, if I can trust LUDOMAC, this version of Harry Potter is not compatible with your Mac, nor with the one running Mac OS X 10.4.
You need to check if, in version nine, this game is published, either on the publisher's website (Aspir) or on a sales website.
Best regards.
When it’s urgent, it’s already too late (Talleyrand)
When everything fails, read the manual ;)
I believe that, if I can trust LUDOMAC, this version of Harry Potter is not compatible with your Mac, nor with the one running Mac OS X 10.4.
You need to check if, in version nine, this game is published, either on the publisher's website (Aspir) or on a sales website.
Best regards.
When it’s urgent, it’s already too late (Talleyrand)
When everything fails, read the manual ;)
Hello, thank you for your response, but unfortunately I don't understand it very well... How can I see if this game has been published and what do you mean by that anyway? Thank you very much for your help!
Unfortunately, I couldn't find it on the publisher's website, but even if I found this game re-released for a newer OS, I suppose it would be quite expensive, and since I've already spent €40 (which I might as well have thrown out the window since I can't use it ;) ) I can't see myself spending even more money to buy a second one... (indeed, I have a very small budget... €40 was already a lot for me for a game...)
That's why I was looking for a computer solution, but I'm not too hopeful about it...
That's why I was looking for a computer solution, but I'm not too hopeful about it...
There may be a solution that I’m thinking about.
What is the exact model of your grandmother's Mac that you took? (Apple menu/About this Mac)
Did you also get the installation disks that were originally provided with it? If so, what are the inscriptions on them?
If it turns out that this Mac can run the first version of Mac OS X (10.1), you could certainly use your game CD, since Harry Potter supports that version of Mac OS X.
What is the exact model of your grandmother's Mac that you took? (Apple menu/About this Mac)
Did you also get the installation disks that were originally provided with it? If so, what are the inscriptions on them?
If it turns out that this Mac can run the first version of Mac OS X (10.1), you could certainly use your game CD, since Harry Potter supports that version of Mac OS X.
Hello,
Hi dedé ;-)
There are two different issues here to resolve:
- 1 - the processor: for this game, the processor must not be an Intel processor, but either a PowerPC or a Motorola if the game is intended for Macs older than the first iMac G3. (first PowerPC) - to be checked
- 2 - The OS version - the game is meant for Mac OS 8.6, which is a version prior to Mac OS X - noting that Mac OS 8.6 ran on both Motorola and PowerPC Macs
Assuming a given application (a game is an application) is intended for a PowerPC Mac, it is still possible to run it on an Intel Mac using the Rosetta emulator, which was available up to Mac OS X 10.6.8. However, it still needs to be compatible with the OS - (Mac OS X 10.1 to 10.5 runs on PowerPC processors).
If the game requires a system version prior to Mac OS X, you need to either use Classic, an emulator of the old Mac OS systems (Mac OS 6, 7, 8, 9...). This "Classic environment" was included by default with the first versions of Mac OS X - I am no longer sure which was the last version of Mac OS X that could run the Classic environment, but I think it was Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther):
https://support.apple.com/fr-fr/HT2602
Beyond the last version of Mac OS X that could run the Classic environment, and thus emulate Mac OS 7, Mac OS 8, Mac OS 8.6... or Mac OS 9, you need to use SheepShaver:
https://sheepshaver.cebix.net
I haven't personally tested SheepShaver, but from what I've read, it still worked in fairly recent versions of OS X.
Best regards.
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Always provide your system configuration completely - exact computer model, exact OS version.
Hi dedé ;-)
There are two different issues here to resolve:
- 1 - the processor: for this game, the processor must not be an Intel processor, but either a PowerPC or a Motorola if the game is intended for Macs older than the first iMac G3. (first PowerPC) - to be checked
- 2 - The OS version - the game is meant for Mac OS 8.6, which is a version prior to Mac OS X - noting that Mac OS 8.6 ran on both Motorola and PowerPC Macs
Assuming a given application (a game is an application) is intended for a PowerPC Mac, it is still possible to run it on an Intel Mac using the Rosetta emulator, which was available up to Mac OS X 10.6.8. However, it still needs to be compatible with the OS - (Mac OS X 10.1 to 10.5 runs on PowerPC processors).
If the game requires a system version prior to Mac OS X, you need to either use Classic, an emulator of the old Mac OS systems (Mac OS 6, 7, 8, 9...). This "Classic environment" was included by default with the first versions of Mac OS X - I am no longer sure which was the last version of Mac OS X that could run the Classic environment, but I think it was Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther):
https://support.apple.com/fr-fr/HT2602
Beyond the last version of Mac OS X that could run the Classic environment, and thus emulate Mac OS 7, Mac OS 8, Mac OS 8.6... or Mac OS 9, you need to use SheepShaver:
https://sheepshaver.cebix.net
I haven't personally tested SheepShaver, but from what I've read, it still worked in fairly recent versions of OS X.
Best regards.
--
Always provide your system configuration completely - exact computer model, exact OS version.
Hello Dede,
I don't think that's possible. I believe Panther and Tiger were indeed the last versions that supported Classic. I'm almost certain it was removed under Leopard.
But I'll check again (I have 2 DVDs, Tutankhamun and the Louvre, that I haven't been able to use for quite a while..., I think since Leopard.)
I just looked on Ludomac, it does indeed say that the game runs on Mac OS systems 8.1 up to 10.1, but the requester indicates this at the very beginning::
That doesn't change much, but it just specifies that the minimum must be 8.6 for the box they bought.
But if Ludomac indicates up to version 10.1, it's because the required processor is indeed a PowerPC.
Possible solutions then:
If the Mac is an old Mac with a PowerPC processor:
- run it on Mac OS X 10.1 at most. The first Macs with PowerPC processors, the G3s, ran on Mac OS 8. The choice will depend on the exact age of this old Mac.
otherwise,
- use the Classic environment
Knowing that this Classic environment will only be possible up to Mac OS X 10.3 or 10.4
If the Mac has an Intel processor:
In this case, using the Rosetta emulator is necessary.
So Mac OS X 10.6 at most - otherwise no more Rosetta possible - so depending on the exact age of the Intel Mac, the Mac OS versions will be Mac OS X 10.4 to 10.6. - the first Intel Macs ran on Mac OS X 10.4
and furthermore,
the use of SheepShaver will be necessary if the Mac is running on a version higher than Mac OS X 10.4, because "Classic" will no longer work starting from Mac OS X 10.5
That's what I believe anyway...
Best regards ;-)
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I seem to have used "Classic" on my PPC under Leopard, but I'm not sure, it's been a while
I don't think that's possible. I believe Panther and Tiger were indeed the last versions that supported Classic. I'm almost certain it was removed under Leopard.
But I'll check again (I have 2 DVDs, Tutankhamun and the Louvre, that I haven't been able to use for quite a while..., I think since Leopard.)
I just looked on Ludomac, it does indeed say that the game runs on Mac OS systems 8.1 up to 10.1, but the requester indicates this at the very beginning::
On the box, it was clearly stated that the game was compatible with Mac OS 8.6 or later and Mac OSX
That doesn't change much, but it just specifies that the minimum must be 8.6 for the box they bought.
But if Ludomac indicates up to version 10.1, it's because the required processor is indeed a PowerPC.
Possible solutions then:
If the Mac is an old Mac with a PowerPC processor:
- run it on Mac OS X 10.1 at most. The first Macs with PowerPC processors, the G3s, ran on Mac OS 8. The choice will depend on the exact age of this old Mac.
otherwise,
- use the Classic environment
Knowing that this Classic environment will only be possible up to Mac OS X 10.3 or 10.4
If the Mac has an Intel processor:
In this case, using the Rosetta emulator is necessary.
So Mac OS X 10.6 at most - otherwise no more Rosetta possible - so depending on the exact age of the Intel Mac, the Mac OS versions will be Mac OS X 10.4 to 10.6. - the first Intel Macs ran on Mac OS X 10.4
and furthermore,
the use of SheepShaver will be necessary if the Mac is running on a version higher than Mac OS X 10.4, because "Classic" will no longer work starting from Mac OS X 10.5
That's what I believe anyway...
Best regards ;-)
@+
Thank you both so much for dedicating so much time and energy to me!
I'm not sure I understand everything perfectly, even though the explanations are very well stated, but I will attempt the manipulations.
Since my old Mac is running OS X 10.4.11 with an Intel processor, I will try to use Rosetta and if I understood correctly, I won't need SheepShaver since I'm on 10.4.
Anyway, thank you very much!
I'm not sure I understand everything perfectly, even though the explanations are very well stated, but I will attempt the manipulations.
Since my old Mac is running OS X 10.4.11 with an Intel processor, I will try to use Rosetta and if I understood correctly, I won't need SheepShaver since I'm on 10.4.
Anyway, thank you very much!
Hello
On Mac OS X 10.4, the Rosetta emulator will start automatically. It's completely transparent.
However, the Classic environment will need to be launched - And if I remember correctly, when installing Mac OS X 10.2, 10.3, or 10.4, you had the option to install the Classic environment or not. This means that if Classic is not present on the Mac, you need to insert the original installation DVD and request in the special installations to install Classic.
Once that's done, launching the game should trigger the Classic environment, followed by the game.
In the Classic environment, according to my hazy memories, there are settings available, particularly the memory allocated to applications running under Classic...
(I should test all this again ;-)
On Mac OS X 10.4, the Rosetta emulator will start automatically. It's completely transparent.
However, the Classic environment will need to be launched - And if I remember correctly, when installing Mac OS X 10.2, 10.3, or 10.4, you had the option to install the Classic environment or not. This means that if Classic is not present on the Mac, you need to insert the original installation DVD and request in the special installations to install Classic.
Once that's done, launching the game should trigger the Classic environment, followed by the game.
In the Classic environment, according to my hazy memories, there are settings available, particularly the memory allocated to applications running under Classic...
(I should test all this again ;-)