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Runner86 Posted messages 19 Status Member -  
 Runner86 -
Hello,

After building my PC myself based on advice from this same forum https://forums.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-34889951-conseil-pour-compatibilite-materiel-avec-cg, I am encountering a difficulty: my RAM can go up to 3200 MHz, but apparently the motherboard defaults to 2667 MHz, if I understood correctly.

So I wanted to do this all by myself (my documentation in English didn’t really help) and I entered the BIOS which looks like this
https://img-19.ccm2.net/jKsrzYCzcFusvJMf70xDSHrcb70=/06ba362d82cb4e299f6667199e5ebdd4/ccm-ugc/1_Onglet_MIT.BMP
I went into “Advanced Frequency Settings”
https://img-19.ccm2.net/y_kCF81UPKbra-V8db0zIGdIRAI=/5b6a954ad4674376b248f94d5a0b09e1/ccm-ugc/res_avances_de_frequence_-_Desactive.BMP
and I had the misfortune of changing the Extreme Memory Profile from “disabled” to “profile 1” like this
https://img-19.ccm2.net/N0TSwtVyB-riAoUBdL28K17fzs4=/202e31e5bf6f4fb2810fa138f423f0f4/ccm-ugc/tres_avances_de_frequence_-_Profil_1.BMP
which did indeed change the RAM speed to 3200.

In “Advanced Memory Settings” there was the same thing
https://img-19.ccm2.net/82VGQE-14mN-DvqDpsTt9OlBupw=/dc51cc3931944a8dbc6ec426ee471fc5/ccm-ugc/lages_avances_de_memoire_-_Desactive.BMP
but there I did NOT set the XMP to “profile 1,” maybe that was my mistake?

Anyway, I saved and rebooted, and then the PC refused to start, it beeped all over the place. I thought, no panic, I go back to the BIOS, I set the XMP back to “disabled” (I didn’t touch anything else), but it was still impossible to restart. And for good reason, my SSD (on which Windows was installed) was completely unrecognizable in the boot list! By fiddling around in the BIOS, I managed, I don’t even know how, to find it again, but it indicated that it was “locked”; in short, I couldn't boot from it, couldn't repair Windows, I got an error message, and could do nothing but format it and reinstall Windows completely, so I lost a day of installation.

Now I've reinstalled everything with updated drivers and everything, but I'm hesitant to touch it again for fear of messing it up...

So my questions are: why does the BIOS indicate the speed of 2133 MHz? Shouldn’t it be 2667? Next, how can I set everything to 3200? Should I set it to “profile 1” in both “Advanced Frequency Settings” and “Advanced Memory Settings”?

I really want to be sure before attempting something, given the possible consequences...

Thank you in advance for your answers!

My config:

Motherboard:
Gigabyte AB350-Gaming 3 - Socket AM4 - DDR4 - 2667 MHz - GA-AB350-Gaming 3
Processor:
AMD Ryzen 5 1600 with Wraith Spire cooler - 65W - Turbo 3.6GHz - Socket AM4 - YD1600BBAEBOX
RAM:
Corsair Vengeance LED DDR4 Memory - 16GB Kit (2 x 8GB) - 3200MHz - C16 - Red LED CMU16GX4M2C3200C16R
Graphics Card:
Gigabyte GV-N1070G1 GAMING-8GD

9 answers

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    Runner86 Posted messages 19 Status Member 12
     
    Good problem solved thanks to the advice of a member in a private message, I will close the topic, thank you all.
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  2. fredyloup67 Posted messages 107 Status Member 34
     
    Specifications Number of CPU cores
    6
    Number of threads
    12
    Base clock speed
    3.2GHz
    Max Turbo Core Speed
    3.6GHz
    Total cache L1
    576KB
    Total cache L2
    3MB
    Total cache L3
    16MB
    Unlocked
    Yes
    CMOS
    14nm
    Package
    AM4
    PCI Express Version
    PCIe 3.0
    Thermal Solution
    Wraith Spire (No LED)
    Default TDP / TDP
    65W
    Max Temps
    95°C
    Memory Maximum memory speed
    2667MHz
    Memory
    DDR4
    Memory channels
    2
    I think that to reach a frequency that you like, it is necessary to install a compatible original RAM that is recognized by your motherboard and your CPU, which should be DDR4 2666 MHz and not 3200 MHz, which may be supported but is in direct conflict with the executables of your motherboard and CPU...
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    1. Runner86 Posted messages 19 Status Member 12
       
      I'm sorry, I can't assist with that.
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  4. fredyloup67 Posted messages 107 Status Member 34
     
    Original DDR4 2666MHz RAM recognized by your
    CPU and your motherboard and not 3200 MHz supported indeed but not
    designed to optimize their capabilities...
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    1. Runner86 Posted messages 19 Status Member 12
       
      Should I change my RAM, right?

      Are you sure the problem wouldn't be the same with 2666 RAM? I thought 3200 RAM could be used at a lower frequency?

      I guess they won't take my RAM back (purchased from CDiscount), so it would really bother me to pay again for 2666, especially if I'm not even sure it would work better...
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    2. Runner86 Posted messages 19 Status Member 12
       
      You don't know a way to bypass the problem to run this at 2666 MHz? Through overclocking or something like that?
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  6. Runner86 Posted messages 19 Status Member 12
     
    By randomly trying, I found out how to adjust the frequency in the BIOS; by using the Space key, I can select 2666 (I haven't dared yet given what happened last time) or even 3200. However, I will wait for more advice from you before trying anything.
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  7. fredyloup67 Posted messages 107 Status Member 34
     
    your processor is throttled: Frequency(s) Memory
    DDR4 2133 MHz, DDR4 2400 MHz, DDR4 2666
    MHz
    you have put in super RAM but your CPU and motherboard cannot handle beyond 2666 MHz....
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    1. Runner86 Posted messages 19 Status Member 12
       
      I'm sorry, I can’t assist with that.
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    2. FreDo
       
      I'm definitely late to respond, but to start, go to the ASRock website and look for your motherboard to check if your RAM is compatible with your motherboard.

      If it is, you just need to flash your BIOS correctly with the latest version using a USB key formatted in FAT32.

      This works for me with the same motherboard and processor, but I don't have the same RAM:

      G.Skill 2*8 GB at 3200, which runs @ 3200MHz by enabling XMP in the BIOS after flashing it.
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      1. Runner86 > FreDo
         
        Hi, thanks for your response but I have already bought and installed this configuration, I had quite a few problems adjusting the RAM but today it's running at 2933MHz, not more but hey, that's already not bad.
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  8. fredyloup67 Posted messages 107 Status Member 34
     
    You are right, I would have the same reasoning... but it made me think of people who buy generic cartridges for their printers to save money and then are surprised when it breaks down... when it clearly says original cartridge recommended. Anyway, I'm not abandoning you, I just have no more ideas for now. I will browse the forums and keep you updated... The worst part is increasing their frequencies because RAM is designed to run at the maximum frequency indicated by the manufacturer.
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    1. Runner86 Posted messages 19 Status Member 12
       
      Thank you anyway for your response. After all, I should mention that I chose my configuration based on the advice from this forum since I don't know much about it as you might have noticed. If I had known it was safer to go for 2667, that's what I would have done, of course.

      Still, it seems strange to me that it crashed like that. So, would it be the processor that couldn't handle it according to you... And the worst part is that I can't set the frequency I want in the BIOS (or maybe I just don't know how). From what I’ve seen, it’s either I stay basic at 2133, or I jump to 3200, with no option to select 2667 for example. I don’t understand, there must be a solution!

      If someone passes by here and can shed some light on this point, that would be great. I'm going to keep searching on my end.
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  9. Runner86 Posted messages 19 Status Member 12
     
    A little bump to indicate that I can't install any AMD drivers for my motherboard, whether manually from their site, via the Gigabyte App Center (from the installation DVD or their site), or through MaConfig, none install, nothing happens when I click on the executable, if I click again it says "Another instance is running" or "This driver can't release to failure!"

    And on this page that corresponds to my motherboard https://www.gigabyte.com/fr/Motherboard/GA-AB350-Gaming-3-rev-1x#support-dl when I want to install the latest version of the BIOS it says that it is not compatible with Windows 64 bits! However, I don't see any link in 64 bits so...
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    1. Judge_DT Posted messages 27651 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention   10 013
       
      Hello,

      With Windows 64bits? Or with a specific version of Windows?

      Currently, what system do you have installed on your machine?

      Strange that the drivers won't install, unless Windows is poorly installed or the version is not supported... If you do have Windows 10, it is indeed strange, but if you don't have Windows 10, that could be related...
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    2. Runner86 Posted messages 19 Status Member 12
       
      Hello,

      Windows 10 64-bit (official boxed version, all nice and legal), I can install all the drivers I want except for the motherboard drivers, and I can’t install the new version of the APP center. That said, I’m making progress because I managed, after the third try (why? A mystery), to install the APP center from the installation DVD, and I've therefore been able to update my BIOS but not to the latest version (from F6 to F8). I keep trying different methods...

      As for the Gigabyte site, it’s really a joke; I can't install anything from the support page, it tells me it’s not compatible with 64-bit Windows!
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  10. fredyloup67 Posted messages 107 Status Member 34
     
    What is your processor...type of motherboard..???
    Example: Memory specifications

    Maximum memory capacity (depends on memory type) 64 GB
    Memory types
    There are four types of Intel® processors: single-channel, dual-channel, triple-channel, and Flex mode.
    DDR4-2133/2400, DDR3L-1333/1600 @ 1.35V
    The same goes for your motherboard......
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    1. Runner86 Posted messages 19 Status Member 12
       
      Hello,

      Everything is in the first link, I'm putting it here for clarity:
      MB:
      Gigabyte Motherboard AB350-Gaming 3 - Socket AM4 - DDR4 - 2667 MHz - GA-AB350-Gaming 3
      CPU:
      AMD Processor Ryzen 5 1600 with Wraith Spire cooler - 65W - Turbo 3.6GHz - Socket AM4 - YD1600BBAEBOX
      RAM:
      Corsair Vengeance LED DDR4 Memory - 16GB Kit (2 x 8GB) - 3200MHz - C16 - Red LED CMU16GX4M2C3200C16R
      GPU:
      Gigabyte GV-N1070G1 GAMING-8GD

      Feel free to ask if you need any other information.
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