Fiber optic connection to the floor box

lililou -  
 boutrosdu93 -
Hello,

As a beginner in fiber optic network techniques, I'm having trouble finding information and especially trusting the sales service of the potential provider with whom I would like to subscribe to fiber optics.
My building is eligible; however, the decor on the floor being precious to the property manager, he refuses to allow any visible cables to be installed.
So I don't see how to install fiber optics in my apartment.
A technician came once and explained that I needed to get permission from the property manager given the "work" it would involve. So I abandoned the idea of fiber optics.
The sales and technical service called me back and explained that there has recently been a new technique to overcome the numerous refusals from property managers and to avoid passing cables in the hallways.
Is there another technique than connecting the box in my apartment to the box on the floor with a visible cable?

Thank you in advance!

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6 answers

  1. Mekthoub Posted messages 4136 Status Contributor 1 241
     
    Hello!

    It depends: What type of fiber optic? Installed in the building by which operator? For which ISP?
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    1. mino59
       
      The type of fibers doesn't matter.
      You always need to run a cable from the box to the apartment (so it will be visible).
      Make sure to keep an eye on the work?
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    2. Mekthoub Posted messages 4136 Status Contributor 1 241
       
      Well, yes, the type of fiber matters, of course. For example, the FTTLA fiber from Numéricâble can enter the apartment via the TV antenna cable. If we already have TV wall sockets, which is often the case, then there may not be any work required at all, and no visible cable.

      Now, the discussion has shown that this is not that fiber. But at the beginning of the thread, since the OP had not specified anything at all, it was necessary to ask the question. Right?
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    3. lopori
       
      FTTLA is not fiber but cable...
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    4. Mekthoub Posted messages 4136 Status Contributor 1 241
       
      If: FTTLA, it's a type of fiber. With fiber optic to the foot of the building, then coaxial cable to the apartment...
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    5. Glubit
       
      CQFD, FTTLA, it's therefore not fiber to the subscriber (FTTH) but to the last amplifier (FTTLA) with the weakest link, the termination, in bad copper...
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  2. lililou
     
    Thank you for your response!

    I would like to take an offer with SFR, as it is my mobile operator and they therefore offer discounts.
    It is Orange that installed it in my building.
    I couldn't tell you what type of fiber optic it is...
    I know there is the building's box in the basement and there is a floor box near the elevator.
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  3. Mekthoub Posted messages 4136 Status Contributor 1 241
     
    This is FTTH GPON fiber. In principle, there shouldn't be any issues, as Orange probably anticipated the connection from the floor box to the apartment in the originally approved cabling plans... So I don't quite understand the story about needing an additional authorization. It should go through some technical conduit, like those where the telephone wires, EDF, all that pass. Visible fiber in common areas is the exception, the last resort, when there really is no other way.

    And since Orange is a building operator, these are their plans, and even their technicians do the apartment cabling. Even for SFR, a commercial operator. Well, it depends, it could also be SFR techs.

    So basically, I don't see the problem. I'm missing something.
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  4. lililou
     
    Thank you for these very useful clarifications anyway.

    I think it must indeed come from the technician, as he told me he had to make a hole too big to be allowed to do it without the syndic's authorization. The space to pass the fiber was supposedly too small, maybe that's where the issue comes from.

    At least I understand better how fiber installation works, thanks to your explanations.
    It only takes passing the fiber through an existing conduit, so it's not visible, and since Orange is the operator for the building, the precise location for the fiber installation must be planned, I will check with the caretaker.

    I will make a new request to SFR hoping that the technician will be of better quality. Often when we don't understand, it's a matter of the person.

    Hoping that it works this time!
    Thank you!
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  5. John
     
    Hello, I'm in the same situation.
    I live in a building eligible for fiber (installed by Orange), and I want to subscribe to a fiber offer with SFR. I had an appointment with a technician who tried every possible way to run the fiber from my apartment to the technical duct in the hallway. According to the technician, my ducts (both the phone line and TV antenna) are blocked. He gave me a document to have my property manager sign, authorizing him to run the fiber cable through the common areas.
    This request was refused because other residents in the building managed to connect to fiber without going through the common areas...

    What should I do in this case? Isn't there a law that allows us to "force" the property manager to grant us this authorization?
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  6. Mekthoub Posted messages 4136 Status Contributor 1 241
     
    Si on ne pouvait pas introduire la fibre dans l'appartement, ou si cela dépendait simplement de l'humeur de la personne chargée de signer l'autorisation... alors tout le projet de fibrage vertical serait complètement futile. Cela n'a pas de sens.

    Cela me rappelle qu'au sein d'une autre entreprise, j'ai observé certains techniciens demander une autorisation qui n'était pas nécessaire, tandis que le technicien suivant effectuait le travail de manière soignée et rapide, sans exiger ni même mentionner cette autorisation. Donc tu as peut-être raison?
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