Mio flow conversion?

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brupala Posted messages 111108 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   -
Hello,
I searched the forum but didn't find what I'm looking for.
How many kbps does 6.5 MiB/s correspond to (I'm specifying it's MiB)?
Thank you

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Cooyoo Posted messages 727 Status Member 229
 
There is not a huge difference between the two. (Purists will say there is...)
In fact, one is calculated in powers of 2 and the other in powers of 10.
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Pierrecastor Posted messages 10830 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention   4 215
 
When you start talking terabytes or even gigabytes, yes, I assure you that makes a hell of a difference.
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Cooyoo Posted messages 727 Status Member 229
 
And here we go... a purist... lol
Bring that back to % and it doesn't change much...
On the other hand, it's true that if it were in Euros on my salary, it would be different... lol
That said, machines only understand binary... so for me it will always be:
1 kB = 1024 B and 1 kbit = 1024 bits...
Not to be confused with kB (for the uninitiated) => 1 kB = 1 kB (B for byte in English, byte = octet) => the trick of ISPs to make us dream with the speeds... (they talk to us about mbits/s so that we understand MB/s...)
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Pierrecastor Posted messages 10830 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention   4 215
 
Meh, a 1TB hard drive will actually only provide about 930GiB, which makes a difference. 7% is not insignificant.

Furthermore, outside of Windows, all OSes clearly distinguish between kB and KiB.

And to play the purist to the end, a Byte does not mean octet; it is the smallest addressable unit. It turns out that on a PC, a byte is almost always 8 bits, but that’s not necessarily the case. ;-)
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Pierrecastor Posted messages 10830 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention   4 215
 
Not a purist. Precise. Computing is a world of precision and it's important to use the right terms to progress.

Aren't you the one who wanted to get your site hacked?
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brupala Posted messages 111108 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   14 434
 
In any case, machines only understand binary...... so for me it will always be:
1 KB = 1024 B and 1 Kbit = 1024 bits......

No,
once again, 1 Kbit/s is 1000 bits/s, it's a speed, not a memory size.
Operators have always expressed their speeds in Kbit/s, so multiples of 1000, not to deceive people but simply because that's the measure:
http://www.epinard.free.fr/SDH/PDHSDH.php
http://sebsauvage.net/comprendre/provider/provider_modem.html
http://arsene.perez-mas.pagesperso-orange.fr/signal/numerisation/numerisation_standards_son.htm
an ethernet port is not 10 Mibibit/s but 10000000 bit/s
It's a stupid drift to reduce everything in computing to units of 1024.
Telecoms have joined computing, but not necessarily their bad practices.
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Cooyoo Posted messages 727 Status Member 229
 
1 MiB = 2^20 bytes (1,048,576 bytes)
1 byte = 8 bits
1 kbit = 1024 bits
It's up to you to continue........

And you probably didn't have to search that much.... => https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octet
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warrant Posted messages 127 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   4
 
Thank you for your responses, but it's just that unlike the classic Mo, it is marked Mio, hence my question.
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warrant Posted messages 127 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   4
 
Okay, thank you.
So that should be around 6000 kb/s.
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brupala Posted messages 111108 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   14 434
 
no,
it's the other way around:
6.5 MiB represents 6.5x2 ^20 bytes or 6.5x1,048,576 or 6,815,744 bytes
So 6.815 MB or 6815 KB
Got it?
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crocodile15 Posted messages 1475 Status Member 439
 
Yes, you wrote 1Mio=1.048.576 while 1Mio=1.000.000 bytes; do not confuse Mio and Mo.
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Cooyoo Posted messages 727 Status Member 229
 
Well, actually no. According to the standard set in 1998 by the International Electrotechnical Commission, it's the opposite. See the wiki page => https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octet
In fact, apparently we (including myself) all make the mistake...
The standard defines that:
1 kB = 1000 bytes (I know, it shocks me too... lol)
1 KiB = 1024 bytes
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brupala Posted messages 111108 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   14 434
 
Why does it shock you that a kilogram is 1000, cooyoo?
Let's note in passing that indicating a rate in binary units makes no sense on a serial link.
It only has significance for memory sizes or anything organized in tables of sizes that are multiples of the powers of two.
A serial stream is not related to the powers of two and no manufacturer indicates rates in MiB, because the number is less advantageous (with one MiB containing more data than one MB).
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crocodile15 Posted messages 1475 Status Member 439
 
It’s just a matter of nuance: 1Mio = 1 million bytes, that is to say based on a thousand and not 1024.
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Cooyoo Posted messages 727 Status Member 229
 
And did I write anything else?
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