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Hello,
I just uncovered a cash mandate scam urgently involving an apartment rental in Paris: Suziano Vernier founabette (suzianoernierfounabette@yahoo.fr), who posted the ad on Kijiji. I played along to see how far he or she would go. I just traced their IP: Benin; it’s going to be difficult for visits in Paris!!!
Has anyone dealt with Henry Lemoine? Same: apartment rental in Paris
Thanks for any information.
I just uncovered a cash mandate scam urgently involving an apartment rental in Paris: Suziano Vernier founabette (suzianoernierfounabette@yahoo.fr), who posted the ad on Kijiji. I played along to see how far he or she would go. I just traced their IP: Benin; it’s going to be difficult for visits in Paris!!!
Has anyone dealt with Henry Lemoine? Same: apartment rental in Paris
Thanks for any information.
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Hello,
Thank you also for your emails as I couldn't understand why so many apartments were available at such affordable prices for Paris. Now I understand better.
Like you, I sent quite a few emails to so-called landlords and received the same kind of responses each time.
The contact details of the different landlords:
Pyrrhus Apovo <a.pyrrhus@live.fr>
"Patrick G." <mr.patrick1956@yahoo.fr>
Langlemez Jerome <langlemez_jerome@yahoo.fr>
Aureletnathalie Dubien <aureletnathalie.dubien@yahoo.fr>
louis thomas <louis.thomas094@gmail.com>
george delarieux <ducrojosiane@live.fr>
and the name of a financial advisor
Name................. MOREAU
First name............. SYLVIE
City.................. LILLE (59000)
Here are the emails I received:
Thank you for your response.
I am available for the visit and please note that the lease will be for 1 year renewable with 3 months' notice.
I inform you that I am currently in the North. Therefore, I will need to travel for the visit. However, to finalize the lease agreement, I will need a guarantee to ensure that you are indeed interested and that my trip will not be in vain given the distance, as I have already had to make trips for visits that ended in disappointment; either the interested parties were not present or their deposit was not yet ready.
For this, I request a deposit of €500. This is not for the payment of the deposit but just a deposit in reimbursement to confirm to me that you really have the availability and are genuinely interested by going to deposit the money at the post office by URGENT CASH MANDATE (no commitment)
After you make the deposit at the post office, you will keep the Mandat Cash Urgent receipt that the post office will give you and send me a message to inform me that you have the Mandat Cash Urgent. Then I will contact you again to confirm and I will inform you in turn of a date for the visit.
Know that during the visit, I commit to show you the entire apartment and the rest. If after the visit, the apartment does not suit you, you will have the possibility to approach the post office for the withdrawal of your money with the receipt. But otherwise, we will proceed to the signing of the lease contract to conclude the rental agreement and you will then give me the Mandat Cash Urgent receipt for the cashing of the mandate as payment for the deposit.
Please confirm your agreement so that I can inform you of my financier's coordinates to get the Mandat Cash Urgent.
Best regards
Good evening!
I took good note of your email,
Thank you for responding to the ad regarding the rental of my studio located at Rue du Chemin Vert 75011 Paris Chemin Vert
For work reasons, I am currently on a mission in London with my little family, so the studio is currently free to be occupied.
with all the necessary equipment, 35 m² studio in a modern building, on the 6th floor with lift, furnished studio consisting of an entrance, living room, equipped US kitchen and bathroom with washer. Modern furniture. heating and hot water approximately on the 6th floor with elevator
entrance, a bathroom, heating, hot water, very good interior condition
intercom, digicode, elevator, antenna, heating, hot water
Kitchen: American, Equipped and furnished, ceramic hob, oven, microwave, refrigerator, crockery
Living room: parquet, sofa bed
, at the price of €600 per month including charges.
If I rent my studio, it is just to avoid leaving it empty and unmaintained.
The duration of the lease will depend on your willingness as I will not be returning on my arrival
But I want to tell you that before my descent to PARIS for the visit to be carried out, you must pay a guarantee of one month's rent and one month's deposit, which makes a total of €1200 via postal cash mandate; once the urgent cash mandate is completed, you will be given a receipt that can be used for withdrawing your money; this is what you will keep on you jealously until the day of the visit and the lease signing. You will certainly have a receipt that will serve as your guarantee to me, and as soon as you see that the studio suits you, in exchange for the keys to the studio and the signing of the lease, you will give me the receipt and the original of the receipt. But if the studio does not meet your expectations, you can easily go withdraw your money since you have the receipt for withdrawing the money, and consider this as an act of guarantee and do not pay before seeing my studio; excuse me if I am demanding about the deposit to be paid, as I had to go down to show it to clients who were very interested but for financial reasons could not access due to my demands.
If my condition does not bother you, please fill in the form below:
Name......................
First name...............
Address...............
Phone..................
Duration of lease..............
Number of people in the studio
Identity card
Last lease
I can be reached at 00 44 70 45 70 39 67
Thank you for responding so that I can give you the address where the urgent cash mandate will be made
The ads were on the site leboncoin.fr
Beware of scams!!!!!!!! It is really necessary to denounce this kind of practice.
What alerted me already were the wording that do not sound really French!
Good luck with your searches, and if you happen to know of any advertisement sites that are not sketchy, I would be happy to have the links!
Have a nice day
Thank you also for your emails as I couldn't understand why so many apartments were available at such affordable prices for Paris. Now I understand better.
Like you, I sent quite a few emails to so-called landlords and received the same kind of responses each time.
The contact details of the different landlords:
Pyrrhus Apovo <a.pyrrhus@live.fr>
"Patrick G." <mr.patrick1956@yahoo.fr>
Langlemez Jerome <langlemez_jerome@yahoo.fr>
Aureletnathalie Dubien <aureletnathalie.dubien@yahoo.fr>
louis thomas <louis.thomas094@gmail.com>
george delarieux <ducrojosiane@live.fr>
and the name of a financial advisor
Name................. MOREAU
First name............. SYLVIE
City.................. LILLE (59000)
Here are the emails I received:
Thank you for your response.
I am available for the visit and please note that the lease will be for 1 year renewable with 3 months' notice.
I inform you that I am currently in the North. Therefore, I will need to travel for the visit. However, to finalize the lease agreement, I will need a guarantee to ensure that you are indeed interested and that my trip will not be in vain given the distance, as I have already had to make trips for visits that ended in disappointment; either the interested parties were not present or their deposit was not yet ready.
For this, I request a deposit of €500. This is not for the payment of the deposit but just a deposit in reimbursement to confirm to me that you really have the availability and are genuinely interested by going to deposit the money at the post office by URGENT CASH MANDATE (no commitment)
After you make the deposit at the post office, you will keep the Mandat Cash Urgent receipt that the post office will give you and send me a message to inform me that you have the Mandat Cash Urgent. Then I will contact you again to confirm and I will inform you in turn of a date for the visit.
Know that during the visit, I commit to show you the entire apartment and the rest. If after the visit, the apartment does not suit you, you will have the possibility to approach the post office for the withdrawal of your money with the receipt. But otherwise, we will proceed to the signing of the lease contract to conclude the rental agreement and you will then give me the Mandat Cash Urgent receipt for the cashing of the mandate as payment for the deposit.
Please confirm your agreement so that I can inform you of my financier's coordinates to get the Mandat Cash Urgent.
Best regards
Good evening!
I took good note of your email,
Thank you for responding to the ad regarding the rental of my studio located at Rue du Chemin Vert 75011 Paris Chemin Vert
For work reasons, I am currently on a mission in London with my little family, so the studio is currently free to be occupied.
with all the necessary equipment, 35 m² studio in a modern building, on the 6th floor with lift, furnished studio consisting of an entrance, living room, equipped US kitchen and bathroom with washer. Modern furniture. heating and hot water approximately on the 6th floor with elevator
entrance, a bathroom, heating, hot water, very good interior condition
intercom, digicode, elevator, antenna, heating, hot water
Kitchen: American, Equipped and furnished, ceramic hob, oven, microwave, refrigerator, crockery
Living room: parquet, sofa bed
, at the price of €600 per month including charges.
If I rent my studio, it is just to avoid leaving it empty and unmaintained.
The duration of the lease will depend on your willingness as I will not be returning on my arrival
But I want to tell you that before my descent to PARIS for the visit to be carried out, you must pay a guarantee of one month's rent and one month's deposit, which makes a total of €1200 via postal cash mandate; once the urgent cash mandate is completed, you will be given a receipt that can be used for withdrawing your money; this is what you will keep on you jealously until the day of the visit and the lease signing. You will certainly have a receipt that will serve as your guarantee to me, and as soon as you see that the studio suits you, in exchange for the keys to the studio and the signing of the lease, you will give me the receipt and the original of the receipt. But if the studio does not meet your expectations, you can easily go withdraw your money since you have the receipt for withdrawing the money, and consider this as an act of guarantee and do not pay before seeing my studio; excuse me if I am demanding about the deposit to be paid, as I had to go down to show it to clients who were very interested but for financial reasons could not access due to my demands.
If my condition does not bother you, please fill in the form below:
Name......................
First name...............
Address...............
Phone..................
Duration of lease..............
Number of people in the studio
Identity card
Last lease
I can be reached at 00 44 70 45 70 39 67
Thank you for responding so that I can give you the address where the urgent cash mandate will be made
The ads were on the site leboncoin.fr
Beware of scams!!!!!!!! It is really necessary to denounce this kind of practice.
What alerted me already were the wording that do not sound really French!
Good luck with your searches, and if you happen to know of any advertisement sites that are not sketchy, I would be happy to have the links!
Have a nice day
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Good evening, thank you for all your information because tonight I almost got scammed too, I replied to a lot of ads today and 3 of them were from scammers, here are the emails:
n.delarue@yahoo.fr
alphonemaret@live.fr
karine.javat@live.fr
And here are their responses:
Hello,
I have just seen your message regarding the rental of my furnished 3-room apartment, 80 m². It is still available, and it’s a beautiful apartment, priced at 500 euros per month. From the photos in my ad, you will really see that the price is significantly reduced just to help the Parisian population find a cheaper apartment. You won't find a more central location than this super-chic apartment located in the heart of the most prestigious area of Paris. Enjoy the activity and excitement of the 6th arrondissement, renowned for its upscale bars, lively brasseries, and amazing restaurants. This luxurious apartment has 2 bedrooms, each with a fixed double bed. It also features a spacious living room with a double sofa bed, easy to use and very comfortable. The large American kitchen is fully equipped, including electric plates, oven, fridge, dishwasher, storage, etc. Separate WC with laundry area (washing machine and dryer). A separate bathroom. Equipment: vacuum cleaner, iron and ironing board, high-speed internet, TV decoder, alarm clock radio... Apartment in perfect condition and cleanliness with a rent of 500 euros per month, including water, heating, and electricity.
For those less fond of walking, the apartment is conveniently located near the subway (the nearest stations are only 200 meters away) and various bus routes.
Here are the documents to prepare for the rental:
- Identity document (with the photo crossed out)
- Tax notice
- Last two pay slips (if you are salaried).
- Guarantor 1 month deposit to be paid (500 €).
- The rent is 500 € VAT included.
NB: Please note that the deposit is payable via cash on delivery at the post office before the visit to this apartment, without communicating the withdrawal codes from your postal confirmation receipt.
no checks, no PayPal, no bank transfers, to avoid unnecessary travel..
Thank you for your understanding, very sincere and kind regards
And from Ms. or Mr. ... Karine
Hello
I am renting my apartment in
perfect condition, equipped with the possibility of moving the furniture to the basement if it bothers you.
I wish to rent to someone of good moral character who can meet the rent deadlines.
It’s a 2-room furnished apartment with a pink-beige kitchen fully equipped (fridge, freezer, induction stove, hood, microwave).
Shower room + WC (washing machine)
Very large bedroom (very large wardrobe + bed + 2 nightstands + closet).
Living room (rattan sofa + bench + television, low buffet + extendable table + 4 chairs)
Individual electric heating,
double-glazed window..
Renovated in 2008 with no work needed
Rent + charges 500€.
I bought the apartment for my son but he moved to Spain with his wife.
Here are the documents to provide
for this rental:
- identity document
- Tax notice
- last receipt or property tax notice or accommodation certificate
- last three pay slips
- month deposit (500€)
payable by cash mandate urgent postal to be given at the signing of the lease.
The apartment is in the 75015
district
The apartment is available
immediately
I made sure to send clear and precise photos of the apartment to avoid unnecessary disturbances since I live in Lille.
Leave your contact information if interested.
Sincerely
Thank you very much because if I hadn't had any hesitation, I would have fallen into the trap.
Good evening to all.
n.delarue@yahoo.fr
alphonemaret@live.fr
karine.javat@live.fr
And here are their responses:
Hello,
I have just seen your message regarding the rental of my furnished 3-room apartment, 80 m². It is still available, and it’s a beautiful apartment, priced at 500 euros per month. From the photos in my ad, you will really see that the price is significantly reduced just to help the Parisian population find a cheaper apartment. You won't find a more central location than this super-chic apartment located in the heart of the most prestigious area of Paris. Enjoy the activity and excitement of the 6th arrondissement, renowned for its upscale bars, lively brasseries, and amazing restaurants. This luxurious apartment has 2 bedrooms, each with a fixed double bed. It also features a spacious living room with a double sofa bed, easy to use and very comfortable. The large American kitchen is fully equipped, including electric plates, oven, fridge, dishwasher, storage, etc. Separate WC with laundry area (washing machine and dryer). A separate bathroom. Equipment: vacuum cleaner, iron and ironing board, high-speed internet, TV decoder, alarm clock radio... Apartment in perfect condition and cleanliness with a rent of 500 euros per month, including water, heating, and electricity.
For those less fond of walking, the apartment is conveniently located near the subway (the nearest stations are only 200 meters away) and various bus routes.
Here are the documents to prepare for the rental:
- Identity document (with the photo crossed out)
- Tax notice
- Last two pay slips (if you are salaried).
- Guarantor 1 month deposit to be paid (500 €).
- The rent is 500 € VAT included.
NB: Please note that the deposit is payable via cash on delivery at the post office before the visit to this apartment, without communicating the withdrawal codes from your postal confirmation receipt.
no checks, no PayPal, no bank transfers, to avoid unnecessary travel..
Thank you for your understanding, very sincere and kind regards
And from Ms. or Mr. ... Karine
Hello
I am renting my apartment in
perfect condition, equipped with the possibility of moving the furniture to the basement if it bothers you.
I wish to rent to someone of good moral character who can meet the rent deadlines.
It’s a 2-room furnished apartment with a pink-beige kitchen fully equipped (fridge, freezer, induction stove, hood, microwave).
Shower room + WC (washing machine)
Very large bedroom (very large wardrobe + bed + 2 nightstands + closet).
Living room (rattan sofa + bench + television, low buffet + extendable table + 4 chairs)
Individual electric heating,
double-glazed window..
Renovated in 2008 with no work needed
Rent + charges 500€.
I bought the apartment for my son but he moved to Spain with his wife.
Here are the documents to provide
for this rental:
- identity document
- Tax notice
- last receipt or property tax notice or accommodation certificate
- last three pay slips
- month deposit (500€)
payable by cash mandate urgent postal to be given at the signing of the lease.
The apartment is in the 75015
district
The apartment is available
immediately
I made sure to send clear and precise photos of the apartment to avoid unnecessary disturbances since I live in Lille.
Leave your contact information if interested.
Sincerely
Thank you very much because if I hadn't had any hesitation, I would have fallen into the trap.
Good evening to all.
Thank you very much because if I hadn't had any hesitation, I would have fallen into the trap.
Have a good day everyone.
Here are 2 scam emails from Mr. Pyrrhus Apovo (a.pyrrhus@live.fr)
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Thank you for your response.
My apartment is 55sqm in a secure building with a digicode.
The apartment is on Rue du Champ de Mars, Paris 75007
I have already gone back and forth between Lille and Paris about 4 times, but every time the tenants I meet are not serious; either they are missing a document or the deposit is not ready. To remedy all this, what I propose is very simple: before my arrival in Paris, you need to prepare your file and establish the deposit via urgent cash transfer at the post office. Once this is done, we will meet in Paris, and at that moment, if the apartment suits you, we will sign the lease at the same time, and you will hand me the receipt for the urgent cash transfer at that moment.
If the apartment does not suit you, then you will not hand over the receipt for the transfer. I take this measure to avoid being disturbed by jokers because the round trip is not easy.
You need to scan me the documents, and after reviewing your file, we could schedule a meeting in Paris.
-----------------------------------
Hello
I am renting out my apartment in
perfect condition, equipped with the possibility of moving the
furniture to the cellar if that bothers you.
I want to rent to someone of good character and who can meet the
rental payment deadlines.
It is a 2-room furnished apartment with a pink-beige kitchen fully equipped
(fridge, freezer, induction hob, hood,
microwave).
Shower room + WC (washing machine)
Very large bedroom (very large wardrobe + bed + 2 nightstands + closet).
Living room (rattan sofa + bench +
television, low buffet + extendable table + 4 chairs)
Individual electric heating,
double-glazed windows.
Renovated in 2008, no work needed.
Rent + charges €500.
I bought the apartment for my son, but he has moved to
Spain with his wife.
Here are the documents required
for this rental:
- ID
- Tax notice
- Last rent receipt or property tax notice or accommodation certificate
- last three payslips
- one month deposit (€500)
payable by postal urgent cash transfer to be handed over
at the time of signing the lease.
The apartment is in the 75007
The apartment is available
immediately
I made sure to send clear and precise photos of the apartment so that I am not disturbed for nothing, as I live in Lille myself.
Leave your contact details if interested.
Sincerely.
Have a good day everyone.
Here are 2 scam emails from Mr. Pyrrhus Apovo (a.pyrrhus@live.fr)
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Thank you for your response.
My apartment is 55sqm in a secure building with a digicode.
The apartment is on Rue du Champ de Mars, Paris 75007
I have already gone back and forth between Lille and Paris about 4 times, but every time the tenants I meet are not serious; either they are missing a document or the deposit is not ready. To remedy all this, what I propose is very simple: before my arrival in Paris, you need to prepare your file and establish the deposit via urgent cash transfer at the post office. Once this is done, we will meet in Paris, and at that moment, if the apartment suits you, we will sign the lease at the same time, and you will hand me the receipt for the urgent cash transfer at that moment.
If the apartment does not suit you, then you will not hand over the receipt for the transfer. I take this measure to avoid being disturbed by jokers because the round trip is not easy.
You need to scan me the documents, and after reviewing your file, we could schedule a meeting in Paris.
-----------------------------------
Hello
I am renting out my apartment in
perfect condition, equipped with the possibility of moving the
furniture to the cellar if that bothers you.
I want to rent to someone of good character and who can meet the
rental payment deadlines.
It is a 2-room furnished apartment with a pink-beige kitchen fully equipped
(fridge, freezer, induction hob, hood,
microwave).
Shower room + WC (washing machine)
Very large bedroom (very large wardrobe + bed + 2 nightstands + closet).
Living room (rattan sofa + bench +
television, low buffet + extendable table + 4 chairs)
Individual electric heating,
double-glazed windows.
Renovated in 2008, no work needed.
Rent + charges €500.
I bought the apartment for my son, but he has moved to
Spain with his wife.
Here are the documents required
for this rental:
- ID
- Tax notice
- Last rent receipt or property tax notice or accommodation certificate
- last three payslips
- one month deposit (€500)
payable by postal urgent cash transfer to be handed over
at the time of signing the lease.
The apartment is in the 75007
The apartment is available
immediately
I made sure to send clear and precise photos of the apartment so that I am not disturbed for nothing, as I live in Lille myself.
Leave your contact details if interested.
Sincerely.
A 40 m² T2 for €800 in Saint-Germain-des-Prés is unbelievable!
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Hello,
I have received several emails from scammers, the content of the emails is pretty much the same for all of them, and sometimes the same photos of apartments.
Here is the list of scammers with their email addresses:
- bonjean louis (bonjeanl7@gmail.com)
- christophe louchet (louchet04@live.fr)
- locoappart@yahoo.fr, his phone: +44 703 5990 623
- Lemoine Henry (lemoinehenry@yahoo.fr)
- villa fanny (fanny_200@live.fr)
- martine mottet (mottet@sify.com) his phone: 00229 988 694 48
Be careful not to fall into the traps of these scammers.
I have received several emails from scammers, the content of the emails is pretty much the same for all of them, and sometimes the same photos of apartments.
Here is the list of scammers with their email addresses:
- bonjean louis (bonjeanl7@gmail.com)
- christophe louchet (louchet04@live.fr)
- locoappart@yahoo.fr, his phone: +44 703 5990 623
- Lemoine Henry (lemoinehenry@yahoo.fr)
- villa fanny (fanny_200@live.fr)
- martine mottet (mottet@sify.com) his phone: 00229 988 694 48
Be careful not to fall into the traps of these scammers.
Hello,
So for me, it’s about an apartment in Pau (64), I also needed to send it to Lavergne Nicole. I got the message, where after sending the documents he requested to justify his income, he sent me a copy of his ID to prove his good faith, but his first name does not match the one on his signature in the email!!!
And now in his last message, he signs with a new last name!
To add to the list of names to be wary of: Joseph HEUDIARD and Mr. PEREIRA.
By the way, do you think I should go to the police because at first I believed his story and sent him the documents he requested; ID, proof of income, and rent receipt.
You never know, he could be making fakes and using them?!
Thank you for your responses.
So for me, it’s about an apartment in Pau (64), I also needed to send it to Lavergne Nicole. I got the message, where after sending the documents he requested to justify his income, he sent me a copy of his ID to prove his good faith, but his first name does not match the one on his signature in the email!!!
And now in his last message, he signs with a new last name!
To add to the list of names to be wary of: Joseph HEUDIARD and Mr. PEREIRA.
By the way, do you think I should go to the police because at first I believed his story and sent him the documents he requested; ID, proof of income, and rent receipt.
You never know, he could be making fakes and using them?!
Thank you for your responses.
Fortunately, I came across this forum while doing more in-depth research on the apartment of my dreams in Paris...
Here are samples of exchanged emails... It strangely resembles what I've read on this forum!!...
Some details that raise suspicion: an urgent cash mandate in cash (no proof of security deposit), the urgent cash mandate supposedly cheaper than a bank transfer (false), and finally, a similar apartment still available (65m2 for 500 euros in the 9th arrondissement of Paris) and finally a name for the cash mandate different from the name of the person offering this apartment.... Shady-shady-shady!!!....
1st email:
Hello
I am renting my apartment in perfect condition equipped with the possibility of moving the furniture to the basement if that bothers you.
I wish to rent to a person of good moral character who has the means to respect the rent deadlines.
It's a furnished 3-room apartment with a beige-pink fully equipped kitchen (fridge, freezer, induction hob, hood, microwave).
Bathroom + WC (washing machine)
Very large bedroom (very large wardrobe + bed + 2 bedside tables + closet).
Living room (rattan sofa + bench + television, low buffet + extendable table + 4 chairs)
Individual electric heating, double-glazed windows..
Renovated in 2008, no work needed
Rent + charges 500€.
I had bought the apartment for my son, but he moved to Spain with his wife.
Here are the documents required for this rental:
- ID
- Tax notice
- last rent receipt or property tax notice or accommodation certificate
- last three payslips
- one month deposit (500€) payable by urgent cash mandate to be handed over at the signing of the lease.
The apartment is in the 75009
The apartment is available immediately
I made sure to send clear and precise photos of the apartment so that I am not disturbed for nothing as I live in Lille myself.
Leave your contact details if interested.
Sincerely
2nd email:
"Thank you for your reply
My apartment is 65m2 in total and is on the 2nd floor of a building secured by a digicode.
The apartment is located at 41 rue Jean-Baptiste Paris 75009 in the 9th arrondissement.
I have already made about 3 round trips Lille Paris but each time the tenants I meet are not serious either they lack a document or the deposit is not ready to remedy all this what I propose is very simple before my arrival in Paris you must prepare your file and establish the deposit by urgent cash mandate at the post office, once this is done we meet in Paris and at that moment if the apartment suits you we sign the lease at the same time and you hand me the receipt for the urgent cash mandate at that time.
If the apartment does not suit you then you do not hand over the receipt for the mandate I take this provision to avoid being disturbed by pranksters as the round trip is not easy.
You must scan the documents and after studying your file we could make an appointment for Paris.
Thank you"
3rd email:
Good evening
For the documents you can send them to me on the day of the visit if you cannot scan them.
Here is the procedure to follow for the deposit of the apartment.
You go to the nearest post office to your home with the 500€ in cash of course and you ask to make an URGENT CASH MANDATE they will give you a form to fill out, you put on the form: your contact details, our contact details.
After that the post office will give you a payment deposit receipt with a 6-digit code that you must keep safely.
You keep this receipt safely until you control the apartment, and after verification if the apartment suits you, you give me the receipt so that you can sign the LEASE.
NB: Payment by URGENT CASH MANDATE is made in cash as checks are not accepted and when you arrive at the post office, ask the postal worker to make you an urgent cash mandate simply otherwise they will recommend you to make a bank transfer while the fees to be paid for the bank transfer are twice as high as the URGENT CASH MANDATE, this is just to prevent the client from paying more fees and not to ask him for an advance payment as we proceed by this deposit, just tell them that you want to make an urgent cash mandate.
Here is the address for the mandate:
NAME: LAVERGNE
FIRST NAME: NICOLE
COUNTRY: FRANCE
NB: Specify that it is an urgent cash mandate, as soon as the deposit is made, let me know to start the procedure for signing the lease
Fortunately, I haven't gone beyond this stage except perhaps a budget of 1 euro for photocopies!!!...
I am taking the time to write this message because thanks to you who took the time to write I will not be scammed. Thank you and good luck with your apartment search.
Here are samples of exchanged emails... It strangely resembles what I've read on this forum!!...
Some details that raise suspicion: an urgent cash mandate in cash (no proof of security deposit), the urgent cash mandate supposedly cheaper than a bank transfer (false), and finally, a similar apartment still available (65m2 for 500 euros in the 9th arrondissement of Paris) and finally a name for the cash mandate different from the name of the person offering this apartment.... Shady-shady-shady!!!....
1st email:
Hello
I am renting my apartment in perfect condition equipped with the possibility of moving the furniture to the basement if that bothers you.
I wish to rent to a person of good moral character who has the means to respect the rent deadlines.
It's a furnished 3-room apartment with a beige-pink fully equipped kitchen (fridge, freezer, induction hob, hood, microwave).
Bathroom + WC (washing machine)
Very large bedroom (very large wardrobe + bed + 2 bedside tables + closet).
Living room (rattan sofa + bench + television, low buffet + extendable table + 4 chairs)
Individual electric heating, double-glazed windows..
Renovated in 2008, no work needed
Rent + charges 500€.
I had bought the apartment for my son, but he moved to Spain with his wife.
Here are the documents required for this rental:
- ID
- Tax notice
- last rent receipt or property tax notice or accommodation certificate
- last three payslips
- one month deposit (500€) payable by urgent cash mandate to be handed over at the signing of the lease.
The apartment is in the 75009
The apartment is available immediately
I made sure to send clear and precise photos of the apartment so that I am not disturbed for nothing as I live in Lille myself.
Leave your contact details if interested.
Sincerely
2nd email:
"Thank you for your reply
My apartment is 65m2 in total and is on the 2nd floor of a building secured by a digicode.
The apartment is located at 41 rue Jean-Baptiste Paris 75009 in the 9th arrondissement.
I have already made about 3 round trips Lille Paris but each time the tenants I meet are not serious either they lack a document or the deposit is not ready to remedy all this what I propose is very simple before my arrival in Paris you must prepare your file and establish the deposit by urgent cash mandate at the post office, once this is done we meet in Paris and at that moment if the apartment suits you we sign the lease at the same time and you hand me the receipt for the urgent cash mandate at that time.
If the apartment does not suit you then you do not hand over the receipt for the mandate I take this provision to avoid being disturbed by pranksters as the round trip is not easy.
You must scan the documents and after studying your file we could make an appointment for Paris.
Thank you"
3rd email:
Good evening
For the documents you can send them to me on the day of the visit if you cannot scan them.
Here is the procedure to follow for the deposit of the apartment.
You go to the nearest post office to your home with the 500€ in cash of course and you ask to make an URGENT CASH MANDATE they will give you a form to fill out, you put on the form: your contact details, our contact details.
After that the post office will give you a payment deposit receipt with a 6-digit code that you must keep safely.
You keep this receipt safely until you control the apartment, and after verification if the apartment suits you, you give me the receipt so that you can sign the LEASE.
NB: Payment by URGENT CASH MANDATE is made in cash as checks are not accepted and when you arrive at the post office, ask the postal worker to make you an urgent cash mandate simply otherwise they will recommend you to make a bank transfer while the fees to be paid for the bank transfer are twice as high as the URGENT CASH MANDATE, this is just to prevent the client from paying more fees and not to ask him for an advance payment as we proceed by this deposit, just tell them that you want to make an urgent cash mandate.
Here is the address for the mandate:
NAME: LAVERGNE
FIRST NAME: NICOLE
COUNTRY: FRANCE
NB: Specify that it is an urgent cash mandate, as soon as the deposit is made, let me know to start the procedure for signing the lease
Fortunately, I haven't gone beyond this stage except perhaps a budget of 1 euro for photocopies!!!...
I am taking the time to write this message because thanks to you who took the time to write I will not be scammed. Thank you and good luck with your apartment search.
With your identity card that he falsifies, they scam other victims and you will be summoned to the police station! It just happened to me.
Fortunately, since the card is falsified (changing my name to Sonia Bedad, but everything else is accurate), I was quickly cleared and I filed a complaint in turn.
Fortunately, since the card is falsified (changing my name to Sonia Bedad, but everything else is accurate), I was quickly cleared and I filed a complaint in turn.
and here are 2 more scams.
always the friend jean louis bon, and a new arrival now: emerik palard.
jeanlouisbon bonjeanloui@yahoo.fr
hello
currently in London. I will therefore need to travel for the visit.
However, to finalize the rental contract, I need some guarantees to ensure that you are truly interested and committed so that I do not travel for nothing given the distance. I have already made trips for visits that ended in disappointment. Either the interested parties were not present, or their deposit was not yet ready.
To this end, I require a deposit of 1 month's rent + 1 month security deposit 600 euro. This is not the payment of the deposit but just a deposit that you will have to make to confirm your interest in the apartment. You will confirm that you are available and that you are interested by making a deposit at the post office via MANDAT CASH URGENT.
As soon as you make the mandate, the post office will give you a receipt for the deposit (which will include the mandate number necessary for withdrawal). You will therefore keep the receipt jealously and will not communicate the number to anyone.
Once you have completed the deposit, I will confirm the appointment for the visit.
I'll show you the apartment and everything. And if you are not interested in the apartment, you keep the number and simply go withdraw your money at the post office and I will refund your shipping fee. On the other hand, if you are interested, we will sign the rental contract to conclude the lease, and you will give me the receipt along with the number for the collection of the mandate as payment for the deposit.
Looking forward to your agreement, please receive my sincere greetings
Best regards
emerik palard emerikpalard@ovi.com
Hello
I have received your email along with the required information for the visit. The visit is therefore scheduled for Tuesday, December 15, 2009 at 6 PM at 14 Boulevard du Léman, 13012 Marseille. In addition to the list of documents to provide, there will be:
• The security deposit consisting of 2 months totaling €800, which means that for the first month you won't pay anything.
Regarding visits, last week I had to travel for nothing from Toulouse to Marseille because someone (meaning they were not at the meeting) My final condition for the appointment to be effective on Tuesday is a last formality to guarantee that you are really interested:
Today or tomorrow at the earliest, you prepare your complete rental file, and as for the security deposit, instead of it being by check or another method, I want it to be in cash by urgent cash mandate.
This means you will go make a deposit of €800 via urgent cash mandate at the post office to my wife's details:
Name: PALARD
First name: Nadine
City: Toulouse
After this operation at the post office, they (the post office) will give you a receipt that contains my details and the collection information that you must keep secure with you. So you will have a receipt that you will confirm to me by scanning it while hiding the secret information (Collection codes). As of Tuesday at 6 PM, after visiting this apartment, I will establish a lease contract according to your lease duration, and I will give you the keys to the apartment; then you will give me the urgent cash mandate receipt containing the collection information so that I can collect the security deposit if the apartment suits you. Otherwise, if the apartment is not to your liking, you can still withdraw your money with the
receipt that contains the collection information. This is, in a way, a guarantee from my side and a reservation for yours.
PS: The receipt must be kept securely as it will be given back after
the signing of the lease contract.
Thank you and see you soon
some French mistakes and very particular expressions caught my attention. I found this topic, BINGO!
long live the internet.
always the friend jean louis bon, and a new arrival now: emerik palard.
jeanlouisbon bonjeanloui@yahoo.fr
hello
currently in London. I will therefore need to travel for the visit.
However, to finalize the rental contract, I need some guarantees to ensure that you are truly interested and committed so that I do not travel for nothing given the distance. I have already made trips for visits that ended in disappointment. Either the interested parties were not present, or their deposit was not yet ready.
To this end, I require a deposit of 1 month's rent + 1 month security deposit 600 euro. This is not the payment of the deposit but just a deposit that you will have to make to confirm your interest in the apartment. You will confirm that you are available and that you are interested by making a deposit at the post office via MANDAT CASH URGENT.
As soon as you make the mandate, the post office will give you a receipt for the deposit (which will include the mandate number necessary for withdrawal). You will therefore keep the receipt jealously and will not communicate the number to anyone.
Once you have completed the deposit, I will confirm the appointment for the visit.
I'll show you the apartment and everything. And if you are not interested in the apartment, you keep the number and simply go withdraw your money at the post office and I will refund your shipping fee. On the other hand, if you are interested, we will sign the rental contract to conclude the lease, and you will give me the receipt along with the number for the collection of the mandate as payment for the deposit.
Looking forward to your agreement, please receive my sincere greetings
Best regards
emerik palard emerikpalard@ovi.com
Hello
I have received your email along with the required information for the visit. The visit is therefore scheduled for Tuesday, December 15, 2009 at 6 PM at 14 Boulevard du Léman, 13012 Marseille. In addition to the list of documents to provide, there will be:
• The security deposit consisting of 2 months totaling €800, which means that for the first month you won't pay anything.
Regarding visits, last week I had to travel for nothing from Toulouse to Marseille because someone (meaning they were not at the meeting) My final condition for the appointment to be effective on Tuesday is a last formality to guarantee that you are really interested:
Today or tomorrow at the earliest, you prepare your complete rental file, and as for the security deposit, instead of it being by check or another method, I want it to be in cash by urgent cash mandate.
This means you will go make a deposit of €800 via urgent cash mandate at the post office to my wife's details:
Name: PALARD
First name: Nadine
City: Toulouse
After this operation at the post office, they (the post office) will give you a receipt that contains my details and the collection information that you must keep secure with you. So you will have a receipt that you will confirm to me by scanning it while hiding the secret information (Collection codes). As of Tuesday at 6 PM, after visiting this apartment, I will establish a lease contract according to your lease duration, and I will give you the keys to the apartment; then you will give me the urgent cash mandate receipt containing the collection information so that I can collect the security deposit if the apartment suits you. Otherwise, if the apartment is not to your liking, you can still withdraw your money with the
receipt that contains the collection information. This is, in a way, a guarantee from my side and a reservation for yours.
PS: The receipt must be kept securely as it will be given back after
the signing of the lease contract.
Thank you and see you soon
some French mistakes and very particular expressions caught my attention. I found this topic, BINGO!
long live the internet.
Another identical ad on leboncoin.fr http://www.leboncoin.fr/vi/86528737.htm
from MrPatrick1956@yahoo.fr, here is his response today to my request for a visit to said apartment:
Thank you for your response.
I am available for the visit, and please note that the lease will be for 1 year renewable with 3 months' notice.
I would like to inform you that I am currently in the North. Therefore, I will need to travel for the visit. However, to finalize the conclusion of the lease contract, I will need a guarantee to ensure that you are truly interested and that my travel will not be in vain given the distance, as I have already had to make trips for visits that ended in disappointment; either the interested parties were not present or their deposit was not ready yet.
For this, I am asking for a deposit of €500. This is not the payment of the deposit but just a confirmation deposit to genuinely assure me that you are available and really interested by going to deposit the money at the post office via URGENT CASH MANDATE (no commitment)
After making the deposit at the post office, you will keep the Urgent Cash Mandate receipt that the post office will give you and send me a message to inform me that you have the Urgent Cash Mandate. Then I will contact you again for confirmation, and I will inform you of an appointment date for the visit.
Please know that during the visit, I commit to showing you the entire apartment and the rest. If after the visit, the apartment does not suit you, you will have the opportunity to go back to the post office to withdraw your money using the receipt. But otherwise, we will proceed to the signing of the lease contract to finalize the rental, and you will then give me the Urgent Cash Mandate receipt for the collection of the mandate as the deposit payment.
Therefore, please confirm your agreement so that I can inform you of my financial contact details for you to obtain the Urgent Cash Mandate.
Best regards
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At this point, I was completely put off by his cash mandate request and I started searching online to uncover the trap, thanks to all previous posts that have reported these scammers.
What can we do to put an end to these dishonest practices? Where are the internet watchdogs who are so quick to track down the authors of illegal downloads, preferably amateur ones because the professionals are much smarter and won’t get caught.
Always two justices in our beautiful country just like two medicines, etc... "Depending on whether you are powerful or miserable, the judgments of the court will make you white or black" The sick animals from the plague J de la Fontaine.
from MrPatrick1956@yahoo.fr, here is his response today to my request for a visit to said apartment:
Thank you for your response.
I am available for the visit, and please note that the lease will be for 1 year renewable with 3 months' notice.
I would like to inform you that I am currently in the North. Therefore, I will need to travel for the visit. However, to finalize the conclusion of the lease contract, I will need a guarantee to ensure that you are truly interested and that my travel will not be in vain given the distance, as I have already had to make trips for visits that ended in disappointment; either the interested parties were not present or their deposit was not ready yet.
For this, I am asking for a deposit of €500. This is not the payment of the deposit but just a confirmation deposit to genuinely assure me that you are available and really interested by going to deposit the money at the post office via URGENT CASH MANDATE (no commitment)
After making the deposit at the post office, you will keep the Urgent Cash Mandate receipt that the post office will give you and send me a message to inform me that you have the Urgent Cash Mandate. Then I will contact you again for confirmation, and I will inform you of an appointment date for the visit.
Please know that during the visit, I commit to showing you the entire apartment and the rest. If after the visit, the apartment does not suit you, you will have the opportunity to go back to the post office to withdraw your money using the receipt. But otherwise, we will proceed to the signing of the lease contract to finalize the rental, and you will then give me the Urgent Cash Mandate receipt for the collection of the mandate as the deposit payment.
Therefore, please confirm your agreement so that I can inform you of my financial contact details for you to obtain the Urgent Cash Mandate.
Best regards
----------------
At this point, I was completely put off by his cash mandate request and I started searching online to uncover the trap, thanks to all previous posts that have reported these scammers.
What can we do to put an end to these dishonest practices? Where are the internet watchdogs who are so quick to track down the authors of illegal downloads, preferably amateur ones because the professionals are much smarter and won’t get caught.
Always two justices in our beautiful country just like two medicines, etc... "Depending on whether you are powerful or miserable, the judgments of the court will make you white or black" The sick animals from the plague J de la Fontaine.
HELLO ;
WHY CASH MANDATES OR WESTERN UNIONS?
BECAUSE THESE THIEVES HAVE FOUND A WAY TO TRICK YOU BY ASKING YOU TO GO TO FAKE SITES OF THE POST OFFICE JUST FOR VERIFICATION BEFORE DELIVERY (guarantee?) AND THERE THEY COLLECT THE CODES.
THESE SITES ARE CREATED FOR FREE ON www.ulimit, mediadots, tipdots ...etc
REGARDING WESTERNS.U THE WITHDRAWAL CAN BE DONE JUST WITH THE NAME OF THE SENDER, WHICH IS WHY YOUR DETAILS ARE REQUESTED AT THE START.
BE VIGILANT, NEVER ACCEPT THIS KIND OF PAYMENT.
THANK YOU
WHY CASH MANDATES OR WESTERN UNIONS?
BECAUSE THESE THIEVES HAVE FOUND A WAY TO TRICK YOU BY ASKING YOU TO GO TO FAKE SITES OF THE POST OFFICE JUST FOR VERIFICATION BEFORE DELIVERY (guarantee?) AND THERE THEY COLLECT THE CODES.
THESE SITES ARE CREATED FOR FREE ON www.ulimit, mediadots, tipdots ...etc
REGARDING WESTERNS.U THE WITHDRAWAL CAN BE DONE JUST WITH THE NAME OF THE SENDER, WHICH IS WHY YOUR DETAILS ARE REQUESTED AT THE START.
BE VIGILANT, NEVER ACCEPT THIS KIND OF PAYMENT.
THANK YOU
Good evening,
I too almost got scammed by the same network through an ad for housing on PAP. The urgent cash mandate was also supposed to be sent to Madame Lavergne Nicole. Beware of the scam. The email given was: Xavier.delarieux@yahoo.fr and the phone number: 0689652576.
I too almost got scammed by the same network through an ad for housing on PAP. The urgent cash mandate was also supposed to be sent to Madame Lavergne Nicole. Beware of the scam. The email given was: Xavier.delarieux@yahoo.fr and the phone number: 0689652576.
Good evening,
Following completely unbelievable ads for apartments in Paris, and after an initial email exchange with these so-called owners, I typed their names into Google and came across this forum.
The names are Karine Javat and Louis Bonjean. Their ads are online on the free classifieds website Topannonces. I find it crazy that there is no filtering!
Is there a way to file a complaint? And to find out who is behind these names?
I am ready to take action if possible, I find it scandalous that they are trying to take advantage of the urgent situations of people looking for housing!
Thank you for your testimonials.
Following completely unbelievable ads for apartments in Paris, and after an initial email exchange with these so-called owners, I typed their names into Google and came across this forum.
The names are Karine Javat and Louis Bonjean. Their ads are online on the free classifieds website Topannonces. I find it crazy that there is no filtering!
Is there a way to file a complaint? And to find out who is behind these names?
I am ready to take action if possible, I find it scandalous that they are trying to take advantage of the urgent situations of people looking for housing!
Thank you for your testimonials.
So the email address of the scammer I dealt with is: heudiard_joseph@yahoo.fr, the phone number he gave me is: 0044 7035 986493 and in his last email, he signed Mr. Pereira.
He's trying to scam so many people that he doesn't even remember which name he's using!!!
I followed your advice and went to file a report, so if there is a problem one day with someone impersonating me, there's a record.
The police officer explained to me that there are more and more scams of this kind. So watch out everyone!!
He's trying to scam so many people that he doesn't even remember which name he's using!!!
I followed your advice and went to file a report, so if there is a problem one day with someone impersonating me, there's a record.
The police officer explained to me that there are more and more scams of this kind. So watch out everyone!!
That one isn't bad either: a 2-bedroom apartment in the 8th district for €400...
http://www.leboncoin.fr/vi/81011763.htm?ca=12_s
http://www.leboncoin.fr/vi/81011763.htm?ca=12_s
Out of 50 apartments, only 10 are legitimate. This is getting serious!!!!!!
http://www.leboncoin.fr/li?q=&ca=12_s&f=p&th=1&c=10&w=175&mrs=&mre=&sqs=&sqe=&ros=&roe=&zz=ex%3A75001
http://www.leboncoin.fr/li?q=&ca=12_s&f=p&th=1&c=10&w=175&mrs=&mre=&sqs=&sqe=&ros=&roe=&zz=ex%3A75001
Good evening
Thank you for responding to the ad regarding my T4 house located in the ROSERAIE neighborhood, near shops and the Metro. An old T4 house, completely renovated, with nice current decoration, with parking for 2 cars in a closed area. Garden without vis-à-vis, quiet. On the ground floor: Living room of about 31 m2, parquet floors facing South, Independent fitted kitchen of 13 m2 with plenty of storage + extractor hood + 4 gas burners + oven, Tiled floors. Laundry room. 1 WC. Upstairs: Large bathroom with
shower and bathtub, 1 WC, 3 large bedrooms of 14m2, 16m2, 12m2 with parquet floors, Electric heating.......
I am renting my house considering my professional life and the program I am currently executing as I am out of the country for a mission with my family in London, so the house is currently free to be occupied. I have the keys with me. I can make an appointment with you to hand over the keys and also to establish a lease of 1 YEAR 2 YEARS 3 YEARS OR 4 YEARS because my mission here will last about 4 to 5 YEARS.
Establishing the rental contract will not pose any problem. If you could please send me:
your identity card:
NAME:
FIRST NAME:
ADDRESS:
DURATION OF LEASE:
Thank you for your understanding
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Thank you for responding to the ad regarding my T4 house located in the ROSERAIE neighborhood, near shops and the Metro. An old T4 house, completely renovated, with nice current decoration, with parking for 2 cars in a closed area. Garden without vis-à-vis, quiet. On the ground floor: Living room of about 31 m2, parquet floors facing South, Independent fitted kitchen of 13 m2 with plenty of storage + extractor hood + 4 gas burners + oven, Tiled floors. Laundry room. 1 WC. Upstairs: Large bathroom with
shower and bathtub, 1 WC, 3 large bedrooms of 14m2, 16m2, 12m2 with parquet floors, Electric heating.......
I am renting my house considering my professional life and the program I am currently executing as I am out of the country for a mission with my family in London, so the house is currently free to be occupied. I have the keys with me. I can make an appointment with you to hand over the keys and also to establish a lease of 1 YEAR 2 YEARS 3 YEARS OR 4 YEARS because my mission here will last about 4 to 5 YEARS.
Establishing the rental contract will not pose any problem. If you could please send me:
your identity card:
NAME:
FIRST NAME:
ADDRESS:
DURATION OF LEASE:
Thank you for your understanding
--------------------------------------------------------------
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Hello,
I have an ad like this.
For an apartment in Lyon, in the 9th district.
T3, €550 all inclusive
The owner lives in Franche-Comté
As soon as I replied to the ad on Le Bon Coin, the ad was taken down immediately.
Initially, the email is: blaisotmarie@live.fr and unsigned asking for a Cash Mandate Urgent for €1100 with the same details as the others, but in the name of LAVABRE Jean-Louis.
Telling me he had already moved last week and that the person did not show up and that he wanted a guarantee.
The tone of the email seemed shady, as without mentioning my situation, he states in the first email that he receives many emails for the apartment but mine caught his attention given my difficult situation: "I replied to yours because I felt that you are in need"???
The term "jealously (...the payment information that you should keep jealously with you...) ????
He offers me a meeting on Saturday 09/01 at 6 PM and specifies that I have 48 hours for the mandate (psychological pressure).
He sent me photos of the apartment ....
IS THIS REALLY A SCAM ??????
Thank you
I have an ad like this.
For an apartment in Lyon, in the 9th district.
T3, €550 all inclusive
The owner lives in Franche-Comté
As soon as I replied to the ad on Le Bon Coin, the ad was taken down immediately.
Initially, the email is: blaisotmarie@live.fr and unsigned asking for a Cash Mandate Urgent for €1100 with the same details as the others, but in the name of LAVABRE Jean-Louis.
Telling me he had already moved last week and that the person did not show up and that he wanted a guarantee.
The tone of the email seemed shady, as without mentioning my situation, he states in the first email that he receives many emails for the apartment but mine caught his attention given my difficult situation: "I replied to yours because I felt that you are in need"???
The term "jealously (...the payment information that you should keep jealously with you...) ????
He offers me a meeting on Saturday 09/01 at 6 PM and specifies that I have 48 hours for the mandate (psychological pressure).
He sent me photos of the apartment ....
IS THIS REALLY A SCAM ??????
Thank you
Hello,
Well, I'm delighted to come across this forum.
I was actually interested in this apartment I found on the "Le Bon Coin" website
"beautiful furnished 3 ROOM APARTMENT - PARIS 6th, on the 2nd floor without elevator, a furnished 3-room apartment including: entrance, living room with open kitchen, 2 bedrooms, bathroom and separate toilet. At the price of 600€ per month including all charges. The charges are: electricity, water, heating, etc..." it is located on rue de Seine 75006 Paris, metro Saint Germain des Prés for 600 euros a month, it's a 67 m²!!!
So of course, I was interested!
But upon reading these response emails, he doesn't really answer my questions and this morning finally mentioned the "urgent cash mandate" also using the term "jealously", I see someone else on the forum used that word too!
It's about Jean Louis Lavabre with email jeanlavabre@live.fr, so there you go, I find this story very suspicious especially since he’s asking for
- 3 most recent pay slips
- 1 employer certificate
- 2 last tax notices
- 1 identity card
- 3 most recent rent receipts
surely for later making false documents.
I'm not going to fall for his scam, however, I want to ask him a few questions, just to play a bit and see how far he goes!
I'll keep you posted!
Well, I'm delighted to come across this forum.
I was actually interested in this apartment I found on the "Le Bon Coin" website
"beautiful furnished 3 ROOM APARTMENT - PARIS 6th, on the 2nd floor without elevator, a furnished 3-room apartment including: entrance, living room with open kitchen, 2 bedrooms, bathroom and separate toilet. At the price of 600€ per month including all charges. The charges are: electricity, water, heating, etc..." it is located on rue de Seine 75006 Paris, metro Saint Germain des Prés for 600 euros a month, it's a 67 m²!!!
So of course, I was interested!
But upon reading these response emails, he doesn't really answer my questions and this morning finally mentioned the "urgent cash mandate" also using the term "jealously", I see someone else on the forum used that word too!
It's about Jean Louis Lavabre with email jeanlavabre@live.fr, so there you go, I find this story very suspicious especially since he’s asking for
- 3 most recent pay slips
- 1 employer certificate
- 2 last tax notices
- 1 identity card
- 3 most recent rent receipts
surely for later making false documents.
I'm not going to fall for his scam, however, I want to ask him a few questions, just to play a bit and see how far he goes!
I'll keep you posted!
Hello, I would like to report a scam regarding an apartment in Brye sur Marne on Top Ad.
Here is the response I received when I asked to visit before paying.
"Thank you for your response
I want to say this: last week I came to show this apartment to two different couples.
One did not show up, the second could not gather the funds necessary for the acquisition of this very clean apartment.
That is why I require this postal deposit that assures a trust for the visit from today.
So you have nothing to worry about because a deposit does not suggest that you are paying the funds to acquire it; so if all this is done and we set an appointment for the visit and you don't like this apartment, which I doubt, of course! you can simply go back to the post office to withdraw your funds.
Thank you for your response
Regards"
His identity is Julien Charles, and I noticed that this identity has been used for car scams.
Here is the response I received when I asked to visit before paying.
"Thank you for your response
I want to say this: last week I came to show this apartment to two different couples.
One did not show up, the second could not gather the funds necessary for the acquisition of this very clean apartment.
That is why I require this postal deposit that assures a trust for the visit from today.
So you have nothing to worry about because a deposit does not suggest that you are paying the funds to acquire it; so if all this is done and we set an appointment for the visit and you don't like this apartment, which I doubt, of course! you can simply go back to the post office to withdraw your funds.
Thank you for your response
Regards"
His identity is Julien Charles, and I noticed that this identity has been used for car scams.
Hello..
As names often change, it's better to detect scams through their scenarios...
1- Offer not to be missed!
2- Urgency to conclude...
3- Owner absent or traveling or on a 'mission'..
4- Advertisement posted in a 'free' (Le Bon Coin, Vivastreet, Kijiji, etc.. 'Free' ads are infested with scammers operating in vehicle sales/purchases, donations, rentals, etc..)
And of course, to top it all off, the famous Mandat Cash not so secure as the Post Office claims..
It is unwise to transfer funds through a transfer system (M.C, Western Union, etc..) to an unknown person for a property not previously visited..
Beware!!
As names often change, it's better to detect scams through their scenarios...
1- Offer not to be missed!
2- Urgency to conclude...
3- Owner absent or traveling or on a 'mission'..
4- Advertisement posted in a 'free' (Le Bon Coin, Vivastreet, Kijiji, etc.. 'Free' ads are infested with scammers operating in vehicle sales/purchases, donations, rentals, etc..)
And of course, to top it all off, the famous Mandat Cash not so secure as the Post Office claims..
It is unwise to transfer funds through a transfer system (M.C, Western Union, etc..) to an unknown person for a property not previously visited..
Beware!!
Yes, I also had to deal with this kind of practice from a certain frederic_lajois@live.fr
I was immediately suspicious when I saw that an urgent cash transfer was required, and I saw on the forums the exact same phrases ("guard jealously," his financier's name for the transfer, "living in Lille and I don't want to travel for nothing"...)
Anyway, be careful.
I was immediately suspicious when I saw that an urgent cash transfer was required, and I saw on the forums the exact same phrases ("guard jealously," his financier's name for the transfer, "living in Lille and I don't want to travel for nothing"...)
Anyway, be careful.
I am in negotiations with them for an apartment rental in Paris. Unfortunately, I sent them my ID card and my payslip by email. What can I fear from them? I'm scared! I didn't expect to have to deal with scammers: initially, the apartment belongs to Mrs. Pardiery, who lives in Corsica, but I have to call 0022... which I discover is in Benin, and now I have to send the mandate to VIBERI Henri in Dijon
He's a bailiff who will handle the key handover
What a trek around the world for an apartment!
What will they do with the copy of my ID card and my payslip? ? ?
Séraphine
He's a bailiff who will handle the key handover
What a trek around the world for an apartment!
What will they do with the copy of my ID card and my payslip? ? ?
Séraphine
Hello..
Your ID card + pay slip will be used to set up another scam in YOUR name... Either by the scammer himself or by others (There is a 'black market' for extorted documents..).
You need to file a report with the police detailing the facts to protect yourself (You could face complaints from future victims..). Keep the report references safe...
See you later.
Your ID card + pay slip will be used to set up another scam in YOUR name... Either by the scammer himself or by others (There is a 'black market' for extorted documents..).
You need to file a report with the police detailing the facts to protect yourself (You could face complaints from future victims..). Keep the report references safe...
See you later.
Hello,
a bailiff is neither a real estate agency nor a notary. I think it needs to be reported urgently to the police. I spoke with the scammer involved over the phone without knowing I was calling Corsica... We had the same experience with the phone number in Benin. Maybe the police could investigate the resident (it's certain he lives there because I heard his children) and inform the media to warn the public... In any case, you can talk about all these scams when you file a complaint and we'll see if there's any prevention or justice in this country...
Best regards
a bailiff is neither a real estate agency nor a notary. I think it needs to be reported urgently to the police. I spoke with the scammer involved over the phone without knowing I was calling Corsica... We had the same experience with the phone number in Benin. Maybe the police could investigate the resident (it's certain he lives there because I heard his children) and inform the media to warn the public... In any case, you can talk about all these scams when you file a complaint and we'll see if there's any prevention or justice in this country...
Best regards
New scam on leboncoin from a certain MGR l'évêque KONATE, an ad that doesn’t sound very French, which is normal, you might say, since the person is supposed to be German but with an email ending in yahoo.fr. lol
What raised my suspicions was, of course, the story about postal deposit and the lack of information about the owner.
Let's be careful!
What raised my suspicions was, of course, the story about postal deposit and the lack of information about the owner.
Let's be careful!
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It's practically a scam call center!
Hello dear Friend,
I know this letter will come to you as a surprise, because we do not know each other, but rest assured I do not come with bad intentions.
I am Mr. Clestine Compaoré, Director of the audit department of a BANK in Burkina Faso. During my research at this bank, towards the end of the year 2008, I found a huge amount of Twelve million five hundred thousand US Dollars (US12.5M) that had been deposited in an account since 1999.
From thorough research, I discovered that this fund was deposited by a foreigner who died in a plane crash in 2003.
And since then, this account has remained inactive with no claims from anyone, which is why I humbly seek your help and cooperation to present you to the BCB as the beneficiary of these funds for our common good.
Rest assured that all procedures will be monitored by me here until you receive these funds in your bank account.
We will share this fortune as follows: 35% for you, 5% for all expenses incurred during this transfer, and 60% for my associates and me.
Rest assured that this transfer is risk-free, 100%, as we have taken all arrangements for its smooth execution.
We have set a timeframe of 11 working days for the bank to proceed with the transfer of these funds to your bank account.
Moreover, this transaction should be treated with the utmost confidentiality for the simple reason that I am still in service at this bank.
If you are ready and interested in this matter, please respond to me so that I can send you more details about its execution.
Thank you for your cooperation.
See you soon
Clestine Compaoré
found on Le Bon Coin:
From: jean lavabre <lavabrejeanlouis1@live.fr>
To: zahia6949@live.fr
Sent on: Sun, February 28, 2010, 4:42:50 PM
Subject: Your ad "Beautiful 3-room apartment 80m²
I acknowledge receipt of your email and thank you for your interest in my apartment.
It is located on Rue du Docteur Berger, Hauts-de-Seine.
On the 5th floor with elevator in a very beautiful stone building, apartment newly renovated with a small terrace and a lovely view of the Dome des Invalides consisting of an entrance, a living room, 2 bedrooms, a bathroom, a separate equipped and fitted kitchen. Wooden floors, moldings, fireplace.
The apartment will be rented furnished to a person of good moral standing and who has the means to meet the rental deadlines.
Rent is 700 euros all charges included.
The charges include: water, trash, electricity, etc.
Due to a small family problem, my wife and I are currently in Nîmes, so if you are really interested, we can schedule an appointment for the visit; I am available from Tuesday to Saturday, it’s up to you.
I remind you that you will need to pay a deposit on the day of the visit of one month’s rent as well as a security deposit of 1400€ in exchange for signing the rental contract as well as handing over the keys to my apartment.
Please fill out this form for the rental contract.
- Last name
- First name
- Number of children
- Number of adults
- Guarantor
- Full address
- Phone
- Fax
- Duration of the lease
Thank you and I await your new email to send you the list of documents to be provided on the day of the visit as well as the procedures to follow for a possible visit to the apartment.
Best regards
and another one:
From: franck debout <deboutfranck@live.fr>
Sent on: Sat, February 27, 2010, 1:20:57 PM
Subject: RE: "3-room apartment in Alfortville" on Leboncoin.fr
I decided to rent my apartment well
before my departure from Alfortville but I didn’t have time to find a tenant, so I have all the keys with me for more security and assurance. My property is located on the rue de la Place des
Tilleuls with an elevator in Alfortville. If you are really interested, here is my number so we can discuss it verbally: tel 0022998417171 to agree on the conditions for renting my apartment. Here are some of its characteristics and photos attached:
It is a very bright three-room apartment located on the 1st floor with an elevator. The access to the building has a double security system (digital code and caretaker). It consists of an entrance, an office with computer, unlimited internet, ADSL,
unlimited telephone (local and national). The spacious living room (26m2) is lit by a large bay window. It includes two very comfortable design leather sofas convertible to 130X190, a height-adjustable coffee table for meals for 6 people, a SONY 82cm flat-screen TV, fully equipped with induction hob, refrigerator-freezer, oven, microwave, dishwasher for nine people. The first bedroom (15 m2), with a large bay window, is very quiet and is furnished with a double bed in 140 x 200, two bedside tables, and a small desk. The second bedroom (10m2) overlooks the garden with a private shower room. The toilets are independent, with permanent ventilation. The two bathrooms are very functional with a large-opening shower cabin. The balcony (12m2) runs along the entire apartment; it is the ideal place for reading, aperitifs, or breakfast at the bistro table.
rent 500€, charges included (water, electricity, gas, garbage).
Kind regards
I called the owner at the number to discuss it verbally: tel 0022998417171 and as luck would have it, he told me he was also in Africa and in Benin...!!!
Exactly the same story, starting from an ad on Leboncoin, for BORDEAUX.
The same Jean Lavabre who asks to make a cash mandate in the name of his wife ARNONE LISA (which made me doubt)
Email: lavabrejeanlouis1@live.fr
See below his first email and his response (regarding the cash mandate) following my interest in his apartment:
I acknowledge receipt of your email and thank you for your interest in my apartment.
It is located in Bordeaux Caudéran (next to Mérignac Mondésir).
Nice T3 apartment of 68m², on the 3rd floor, with elevator, renovated in a calm and secure residence. Double living room of 27 m² opening onto a balcony with a view of the park, equipped kitchen, 2 bedrooms, bathroom, cellar, private outdoor parking and individual garage.
Beautiful wooded and fenced park, close to shops and bus.
The apartment will be rented to a person of good morals and having the means to meet the rent deadlines.
The rent is 500 euros all charges included.
The charges include: water, garbage, electricity, etc.
Due to a small family problem, my wife and I are currently in Nîmes, so if you are really interested, we can schedule an appointment for the visit, I am available from Tuesday to Saturday, it’s up to you.
I remind you that you will have to pay as a deposit on the day of the visit one month's rent as well as one month’s security deposit, totaling €1000 in exchange for signing the lease contract also at the handing over of the keys to my apartment.
Please fill out this form for the lease contract.
- Last name
- First name
- Number of children
- Number of adults
- Guarantor
- Complete address
- Phone
- Fax
- Duration of lease
Thank you and looking forward to your new email to send you the list of documents to provide on the day of the visit as well as the procedures to follow for a possible visit of the apartment.
Best regards
Second email:
Here is the list of documents to provide on the day of the visit if it suits you.
- Last 3 pay slips
- 1 employer's certificate
- Last 2 tax notices
- 1 identity card
- Last 3 rent receipts
- 1 month’s security deposit
- 1 month’s rent
I propose next Saturday at 6 p.m. for the visit, is that convenient for you?
If so, then you will come with a complete file as above because I do not want to go back there for jokers as I experienced last time.
For the security deposit and the first rent, it will be deposited at the post office against a receipt of the urgent cash mandate, and it is with this receipt that you will come to the appointment, not forgetting of course the other documents. If the apartment suits you, then you will provide me with the receipt of the urgent cash mandate and the other documents in exchange for the keys to my apartment and the signing of the lease contract, but otherwise, if my apartment does not meet your expectations, you will return to the post office to retrieve your money.
If you are still interested, you need to establish the urgent cash mandate of €1000 as soon as possible tomorrow and confirm it to me so that I can consider the appointment as possible.
P.S. The Urgent Cash Mandate does not mean that you send me money. NO. It is just a Postal Deposit to guarantee your desire to rent my apartment because understand that you are not the only client interested, in addition to the fact that I have had several false appointments.
Once at the Post Office, you request to make an Urgent Cash Mandate of €1000. The limit of the Urgent Cash Mandate is €1500
So you will have to make 1 Urgent Cash Mandate of €1000. Once the Mandate is made, a receipt will be provided for withdrawal of the funds. This receipt is what you must keep carefully until the day of the appointment. Once at the appointment after visit and signing of the lease contract, you will hand over the receipt of the Urgent Cash Mandate in exchange for the keys to my apartment.
I ask you to please read this to better understand what the urgent cash mandate is.
http://www.labanquepostale.fr/...
Here is my wife's name to whom the urgent cash mandate will be made.
Last name: ARNONE First name: LISA
Best regards
Likewise, I was interested in an apartment in Bordeaux at such an interesting price for the quality of the apartment that I had a doubt and came across your site. Thank you for your advice!
Best regards.