Cash mandate scam - Page 2

Hello,
This evening, I replied to a rental offer on the website Leboncoin and someone named Henry Lemoine responded to me. His reply is very strange and I'm afraid it might be a scam.
Here is a sample of his response:

"The apartment is furnished, type T2, 2 rooms, 40 m2, price 800€, located in the Saint-Germain des Prés district of Paris, on the 2nd floor of a 19th-century building with an elevator. The main entrance is secured by a digicode.

It is a furnished rental but you have the option to store the furniture in the cellar and bring your own luggage. The apartment is located in the Saint-Germain des Prés district of Paris, known for its trendy places and art galleries. At the foot of the apartment and in the surrounding streets, a multitude of services is available to you. You will find a supermarket, a bakery, a bookstore, a bank, a pharmacy, as well as numerous cafés and restaurants, and several clothing shops. The department store "Au Bon Marché" is also just two streets away from the apartment. A Vélib station located on Rue du Four will allow you to explore the capital by bike. Don't hesitate to discover the famous Luxembourg Gardens, a park of about twenty hectares hosting plants, sculptures, and monuments such as the Luxembourg Palace (seat of the Senate) and the Orangerie. Continuing on, you will find Café Flore or Les Deux Magots with a view of the Church of Saint-Germain-des-Prés. Finally, in the evening you can go to the Théâtre du Vieux-Colombier. And if you prefer movies, "L'Arlequin" offers previews, as well as special screenings. "

That’s it, I just want to know if you received a similar email and if you think it's a scam?

Best regards,

Hello,

And to continue the long list, here are 3 more emails that do exactly the same thing: ask for the cash mandate!

Counot Mathieu, counot-36mathieu@hotmail.com, who writes in English, and says that he is currently in Manchester, so to visit Paris, he needs to be sure we have the deposit.. and asks for the mandate!

Fabienne Ribeiro, fabienne-36ribeiro@hotmail.com, who has exactly the same email as the one above (strange, right?! lol)

and.. SONIA BEDAD.. who replied to me like SONIA LACROIX but who has exactly the same email! With a beautiful apartment on rue Vaugirard! what a pity, but as it probably doesn't exist!

PS: thanks to this site.. which helps us immediately find some scams!!

And it's the same thing for you, a great apartment at a low rent, he had to go to Brittany so he's not on-site to show it, he traveled and people didn't show up for the appointment, or they didn't have the deposit money right away, and it's difficult for him to travel...
He asks for tons of paperwork, photocopies of ID cards, pay slips, tax notices, letters from the previous landlord... to have guarantees.
They know what they're doing, luckily, I'm not naive but many must have been taken in, bunch of bastards.

Same operating principle:

scam email address: finegloria@hotmail.fr
apartment located in Lyon and oddly enough, the person hardly speaks French, strange for a landlord in France renting an apartment

Request for a security deposit by postal check to visit the apartment of half the deposit + 1st month's rent.

Beware!!

I just came across a scam in Lyon.. The apartment was way too big and too cheap..
Here are the details of the "scammers": immobiliervan@ovi.com / 09 70 46 85 16
always the same types of phrases ("jealously... cash mandate!!).
Good luck with your apartment searches everyone!

I confirm that the address mr.patrick1956@yahoo.fr is a scam.

I just received the email and while doing a Google search, I ended up here.

I dealt with a man on a mission in Africa who is making a donation for his car. In exchange, I was supposed to pay 298 euros for the transportation of the car, but nothing guarantees that I will get the car. I had to send a money order without mentioning what the subject was; it was sending money, so be careful.

That's crazy!!!!! A friend of mine just experienced the same thing this morning!!!! She almost got scammed, it's unbelievable!!!!!
Here's the email he sent her that she forwarded to me:

"I have received your email regarding the rental of my apartment and I assume you already have all the necessary documents that you mentioned to me.
My lawyer is already informed as she will be present at the meeting to have you sign the lease contract.
Currently, the apartment is still available and the maximum lease duration is 4 years and 10 months.
I don’t often have time to travel, so I can free myself this Sunday, February 21 at 3 PM if you intend to rent my apartment.
However, to finalize the lease agreement, I will need a guarantee to ensure that you are indeed interested and that my trip won't be in vain given the distance, as I have already made trips for viewings that ended in disappointment; either the interested parties weren’t present or their deposit was not ready yet.
One step remains to reassure me of the acquisition of the property, which is a deposit of the security and the first month's rent (€1000) by urgent cash mandate at the post office to the complete details of my lawyer:
Name: VANNESTE
First Name: MICHELINE
CITY: Marseille
This is not the payment of the deposit and rent but just a deposit to truly confirm that you are available and really interested.
After this operation at the post office, they (the post office) will provide you with a receipt containing the details of my lawyer and the collection information that you should keep confidential.
So you will have a receipt that you must confirm to me by scanning it while hiding the secret information (Collection codes).
On Sunday after visiting the apartment, I will establish a lease contract based on your lease duration and I will hand you the keys to the apartment, then you will give me the receipt of the urgent cash mandate containing the collection information so that I can cash the money as payment for the deposit and rent.
Please note that the receipt must be kept confidential as it will be handed over after the lease contract is signed.
The appointment will be confirmed for this Sunday at 3 PM as soon as the deposit of €1000 by urgent cash mandate is confirmed on Saturday morning so that I can make my arrangements for our appointment to sign the lease agreement and hand over the keys to my apartment.
Thank you for your understanding.
Mr. Carlos LAFOURCHE
Best regards"

And here’s the email from the guy: carloslafourche@googlemail.com

It's scandalous, after all! I didn't think there were so many! It's almost the same email, it's crazy!

Hello, apparently I too have fallen for a scam by Jean Louis Lavabre. At first, he asked me to do a cash mandate that I refused, and now he's telling me that if it suits me, I can make a Western Union transfer.

Same story as yours. A gentleman in a relationship who is in Nîmes for family reasons and finds it difficult to go to Paris. And of course, he has already dealt with some jokers who made him travel for nothing. And to top it off, he is urging to make a transfer as quickly as possible to a Lisa Arnone's account.

Where I’m glad about my lack of attention is that I hadn't noticed he asked for the money before the visit, so I was just casually trying to set up an appointment with the idea of giving the deposit check at the time of signing and handing over the keys.

The ad is still on Top Annonce. A family apartment of 70 m² for 500 euros, utilities included. In the email he sent me, he says it's on Rue des Bas Roger in Puteaux without specifying the street number. I'm trying to extract as much information as possible, but it's very difficult.

Today, my partner and I are going to take a trip to the police station because I have given the guy our names and phone numbers as well as the address of our guarantor. You never know.

Hello katelhyn,
It is also necessary to report this fraudulent ad on the Top Annonces site.
Also give us the address of this guy who will come to enrich the blacklist.

Isis

"jean lavabre" <lavabrejeanlouis1@live.fr>

I am also attaching the email exchange from this morning, which is quite alarming:

Me: I will hand over the checks during the signing of the lease and the handing over of the keys. You forgot to specify the street number. It will be easier for us to meet there for the visit and the inventory if I have the complete address.

JL lavabre: If you really want to rent my apartment, I ask you to please do what I am asking you; otherwise, go look for your apartment elsewhere, because if you want to, please call your mother-in-law and tell her to send a Western Union directly. I am not asking you to give me the MTCN code for the withdrawal of your funds.
> Best regards

I have the impression that he is forcing my hand.

I reported the ad on top announcement.

Of course they force your hand, that's their way of operating: applying pressure so you don't have too much time to think.
He doesn't need the MTCN code to retrieve the money. Only your name and the amount sent are enough for his accomplice (the Western Union agent) to find the transaction online...

It's a flaw in Western Union that they exploit shamelessly.

You can also notice that from the moment the scammers leave their stereotypical messages (template messages), their French is no longer the same!!!

He deserves to receive a pretty salty response... if you feel like it... That's what I would do...

Isis

I went to the Western Union website regarding the code. It confirms that there is no need for the code to withdraw. I will think about what to send them as an email. My man and I are going to treat ourselves, I think.

That's great!
Above all, let us enjoy it too!!!

Hello, I came across a studio rental ad in Paris rue Thérèse in the first arrondissement with a slideshow of photos, a nice studio in Paris.

In the second email, they say they agree to rent you the nice studio for 700 euros and ask for the cash mandate urgently! Because her husband won't go to Paris for nothing.

Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. How did I understand the scam? Not a single response to all my questions. Beware of Mrs. SONIA LA CROIX!

Hello, regarding Celestine Compoare's response, it's probably a cash mandate scam where you will have to
send cash orders. For various reasons (lack of documents, administrative issues...), another
scam involves someone offering to buy a property that you have advertised for sale.
They offer to make an immediate transfer to purchase it, but after fifteen days,
they back out and ask you to return the money via mandate while still keeping a percentage as compensation. In reality, the bank advances the money, but it takes at least a month for the money to actually be in your account. As a result, you end up being robbed of almost the entire amount of the property you wanted to sell.

He is from Benin, when I told him it was a scam, he called me unserious!!!

If that helps you:

His IP address: 41.216.40.194, Benin
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Hello,
today, I received this address 193.47.80.51 which is in France... (Paris 8)

193.47.80.51 - Whois Information
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Hello
I believe I am a victim of a scam: rental on KIJIJI Montpellier, the person is named Mathieu PRICARD. Has anyone dealt with him before? He is asking for an urgent cash transfer.

car fraud without a driving license 200, 300 euros in cash mandate urgent
even postal check, the worst part is they give an address for sending the check 14, rue Aristide Briand in Caudry, with a little research it's the address of a general practitioner

BEWARE OF "M. BONJEAN LOUIS