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How? I just received the alert. Your response to Zone-swap dates back a few months but I imagine it is still relevant; especially since I am also undergoing a skills assessment, and the conclusion seems to lean towards a TAI (AFPA).
And you say that it's a guaranteed failure? This diploma would correspond to a technician (after-sales) or independent technician, self-employed. Please clarify whether you have a literary background (like me) or a scientific one like the majority of those aiming for IT jobs. I am approaching my forties (reorientation) and considering this sector which should develop in the future. I agree with BAC+2 but with and THROUGH experience. Don't you consider this possibility of progression?

@wikiveilleI have a literary background.
And I confirm what I said.
I'm not the only person in this situation, apparently.
Besides, I am currently doing a two-year degree in TSSI, after a year of unemployment following my previous training in TAI. I did find a job in a college, but it was a part-time aided contract (CAE) at minimum wage on a one-year fixed-term contract...
After a year of job searching, practically never any responses or negative ones. To work as a TAI, a two-year degree is required.

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"The hell of the poor is made for the paradise of the rich."

Victor Hugo

Hello,
I completely agree with you, I completed this training and just obtained my diploma and what you are enumerating is the truth.
In the end, if you’re lucky, you’ll be hired by the company where you did your internships.

Otherwise, hello the unemployment office, and you wait and feel depressed because either you pursue further training but then you have to wait again or you go back to what you were doing before.

Huge disappointment from this training.

@nenetteHi, could you please give me information about this training? Thank you.

I find all of you very negative... With a TAI certification, one can find a job, and a good one! You just have to get motivated and know how to make a proper CV and cover letter... But first, you need to know how to write properly, which doesn't seem to be the case for those who criticize... What do you think? That with a 9th-grade level or a literary baccalaureate, you can tackle a TSSI training program without prerequisites or basic skills??? Come on, stop dreaming! Don't discourage those who are pursuing this TAI program. It's a first level of competence; afterwards, those who wish can advance to a TSSI certification or something else. Training requires preparation! A professional project does too. And if the trainer is useless, well, that needs to be said (but it's so much easier to say that a teacher is terrible rather than to look at one's own incompetence!). Come on, guys! Those who want to do this TAI program, go for it! There's no secret: when you learn, you also have to work! And in this profession, you keep learning since everything is constantly evolving. I thank AFPA. Not only is the TAI training free for job seekers, but you also receive financial support, there’s a cafeteria on site (don’t look for a gourmet restaurant, we’re in training!), and there is the possibility of free accommodation. It’s not everywhere that this opportunity is offered. Make the most of it, because soon, you'll find cheap training programs everywhere... I find the comments from those who failed the exam or couldn’t sell themselves during their job search to be stupid and disgraceful. When you fail or don’t succeed, you need to be able to re-evaluate yourself before looking for blame elsewhere. Good luck to those considering TAI training, because yes, there is work to be done, but fight to achieve it. We should not give up on our dreams or projects because of three frustrated idiots.

It's clear that Euroform is not recommended; the teacher is incompetent and gives the title to whomever he wants.

Hello, there have been no psychological tests for entry since May!
Best regards

your reasoning only works if you plan to start your own business.
otherwise, with a T.A.I professional title, you'll have a hard time finding a job since the minimum requirement is a BTS.

moreover, this training is useless. since October, I’ve mostly been doing tutorials.

there were 14 of us at the start; today, if we have 5 a day, it’s a lot.

don't go, you'll waste your time.

@choucroute garnieHi, the purpose of the training is to create feedback and tutorials so that if you have done it, understood it, and are able to explain how to do it to others.
Best regards

You say:
A computer scientist is a professional with a real scientific culture. In the description of this degree, it trains at most enlightened amateurs.

I reply LOL
I am a TAI and during my internship I taught things to experienced BTS students!!!

You say:
Too many of these so-called professionals go to people preaching the good word, disparaging the real pros while having no serious knowledge. They do a monstrous disservice to the profession.

I reply:
True, we must be honest in IT, there are more pseudo pros than we think, however, learn to write, my guy, before asking who is doing harm!

You say:
To become a computer scientist: Start by developing a solid culture

I reply:
Thankfully we are told that LOL

Anyway, just another fool who thinks he’s a jet plane.

The TAI title lacks recognition, that's for sure, due to those who give the degree to people who are not up to the mark. Personally, what amused me the most is the jury guy who also considered himself a pro, except that the little TAI really schooled him on NTFS rights or how a printer works.

@TAI 2008Your message only confirms what I'm saying. It's not enough to know how to set two NTFS permissions to be a computer scientist, which you brag about.
Furthermore, it shows your stupidity through insults and an incredible inability to understand written text.
Finally, no one knows everything in IT - which you seem to believe - and a good computer scientist must also be able to question themselves, which apparently is not the case for you.
So, safe travels.

I am the owner of a company with 36 computer scientists, and they are the only ones who have knowledge of their trade, which is a sort of AI.

+1 Mr Jendre. It's frankly pointless to fight over who has the biggest... What I observe is that there is truth in the texts of both Niko and TAI2008. But I also find a hint of pretentiousness, and a lot of generalizations. We can't generalize. In every profession, there are people with narrow minds. In fact, it's not really a question of profession but more about personality. In every field, there is the same percentage of idiots, and that percentage is the same as that on the planet, period. It's not our diploma that makes us stupid and closed-minded; that is something that needs to be worked on, especially BEFORE integrating into society, when we are young... and even throughout life, in fact. But anyway...
All this to say that there are ways to express oneself and that making generalizations always leads to erroneous results...

@dabigbenAnd what if we looked for what brings us together by comparing our spelling mistakes, instead of dividing ourselves over non-issues???
We can find skilled individuals (...) and vice versa in every field, it all depends on the passion with which we practice our profession.

I am an IT teacher in BTS SIO (the new one) AND in TAI.
I notice that the difference is more relational and that TAI students have a more practical sense of service than BTS students, who are more theoretical, but both complement each other quite well.

In life, there are 10 groups of people... and I'm not talking in binaries!

I am currently taking this training in Toulon, but with a different organization than AFPA.

I can tell you that it's a complete mess.

I am very worried about what comes next.

Uh, the start date for this training in Bègles is September 14th ;) I’ll be there too, so we'll probably see each other since there will be 13 of us ;)

See you soon!

It also depends on the trainer (a bit, yes) but overall he doesn't say complete nonsense (I'm in the same class).

Hello everyone,

I am currently in tai and here is my opinion:
- lack of budget leading to a lack of equipment to work with (since training is under the supervision of the regions)
- lack of training time as it has been reduced from 11 to 9 months
- lack of time since trainees have different levels of knowledge due to the selection method of organizations (strength tests for some and open days for others) causing slow progress in "classes".
- A little war among trainers (since there are 2 tai running simultaneously) which creates a huge difference in equipment from one tai to another.
- regarding the classes:
> total or almost total autonomy
> methodology not suited to the varying levels of trainees (or maybe poor teaching methodology; I'm not here to debate this)
> some classes are outdated compared to today's technology and need to be adjusted on the fly, which consequently leads to discrepancies between what we learn in class and what is seen in the end-of-module assessments (MCQs).

We have just finished module 2 on communication and are starting module 3 on networks (in terms of maintenance, do not confuse with the training for the network).
The communication classes are laughable in some cases since they are intended for the hotline, so imagine the MCQ questions! For example: when should we answer the phone when it rings? 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th ring?
...
The network being more complex, trainees focus on the topic but feel demoralized since nothing improves.

I would like to remind you that this is my personal view of the current situation.
For those considering it, equip yourselves with books to follow the classes in parallel, as well as an old computer (for those who can) to work on at home.
I would also suggest bringing along some hobbies just in case.

Hoping to have shed some light on a few paths!!
Bye :)

@bradiusI started my training on September 14 in Bègles in the first week it was great with a teacher, in the second week we changed teachers and that's when the big slacking began, we do nothing during our days, the teacher is absent most of the time, he just shows up to give us a handout and then he leaves! Let's hope the following weeks will be better because right now it's not great, I could do better at home! There are 13 of us in the program and we're all 13 feeling frustrated with the current system! Anyway, the smoke breaks keep piling up throughout the day, that's all we're doing!

@laglandewe told you so.
now this training is going to be a game of constant patience.

and the worst part is that in the end......you can't find a job because you don't have the level.

good luck

Doing your own exercises??? Sorry; but at 15,000 euros for the training, the least you can expect is some support. I don't have all the answers and the trainer is there to (theoretically) guide us to avoid dead ends. Let's be clear: this training does not lead to any jobs (just look at the job search volume for TAI with no responses) and the knowledge acquired at the end of this program also depends on the foundations learned. Without support and direction, we can't invent them!!!
PS: your example about tech would be relevant if it didn't ONLY concern the world of work. We're in training here, not at the "Club Med" for trainers!!!

response to DubMan.

It's true that it's shameful, but you either accept it and make do while taking advantage of their gear to try some things, or you go and do nothing and spend your time complaining...

But I'm sure you understood what we said because "you're going to Fnac to buy me the 'Network for Dummies' book."

That's some initiative, my friend. Well done.

Good luck to you.