Processor or motherboard burnt?

Etienne -  
Spider_cochon78 Posted messages 8706 Status Contributor -
Hello everyone!
I'm explaining my issue: My PC doesn't start anymore, or rather it shuts down after 2-3 seconds.

I tried changing the power supply but it didn't change anything, I removed one by one all the components: graphics card, RAM, fans, optical drive... but nothing changes. However, when I removed the processor, the PC starts and doesn't turn off. However, there is no beep from the motherboard?

I would like to know if the motherboard is dead, the processor, or both!

Please help me!!!

A big thank you in advance!

My config:
Asus m2npv-mx
Athlon X2 3800+
2 GB RAM
Windows XP SP2

10 answers

  1. Zone-swap Posted messages 478 Status Member 95
     
    Salut, déjà si c'était la carte mère qui avait grillé, tu ne pourrais rien démarrer ! Donc, à coup sûr, c'est le pro !
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    1. Spider_cochon78 Posted messages 8706 Status Contributor 1 203
       
      I do not agree with you, there are several possible failures on the motherboards.


      I would rather advise turning on the PC without the RAM to see if it beeps.


      Otherwise, what are the models of the motherboard and CPU?
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  2. Zone-swap Posted messages 478 Status Member 95
     
    You haven't looked at his post; he provides information about his setup! He also says that he has already removed the RAM, the GPU, the optical drives, etc.

    However, he also says:
    However, when I removed the processor, the PC starts up and doesn't turn off. However, there are no beeps from the motherboard?
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    1. Spider_cochon78 Posted messages 8706 Status Contributor 1 203
       
      Oops, sorry, I didn't see that....


      I think AMD CPUs on the AM2 socket don't often burn out, but you never know.

      You need to check if the CPU is compatible with the motherboard.
      You need to check if the power cable (2 black wires + 2 yellow wires) has not been disconnected.

      If not, you should try a CMOS clear.
      Press and hold the power button for 30 seconds to avoid any static electricity issues.

      Check if there are any burnt capacitors on the motherboard or any burn marks on the memory slots.


      Otherwise, I don't know....
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  3. Etienne
     
    Thank you for your replies!

    The CPU is compatible with the motherboard since the PC has been running fine for a year. I also already did a CMOS clear which didn’t help... and there are no dead capacitors or burns on the motherboard.
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  4. Zone-swap Posted messages 478 Status Member 95
     
    So it's probably the pros even though it's very rare for an AMD to burn out!!
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  5. Spider_cochon78 Posted messages 8706 Status Contributor 1 203
     
    The Athlon and Athlon XP on socket A would burn out very easily, not too much those with a metal plate on top.

    Etienne, in your place, I would try disassembling and reassembling; sometimes that's all it takes...
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  6. Etienne
     
    I just tried to take apart and reassemble the processor, without success. The PC starts and shuts down 3-4 seconds later, without beeping.... :-(

    And when I disconnect the 4-pin power cable from the power supply, it doesn't turn off, but it doesn't boot, which is normal since it's the CPU power, right?

    This confirms the hypothesis that the CPU is fried??
    I'll just have to make use of the AMD warranty, hopefully......

    Thanks for your help...!
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  7. Spider_cochon78 Posted messages 8706 Status Contributor 1 203
     
    For me, there's always a 50/50 chance that it's the motherboard or the processor...
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  8. Etienne
     
    Ok, so there's no way to know? Except for testing on another motherboard or with another processor, right?
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    1. Spider_cochon78 Posted messages 8706 Status Contributor 1 203
       
      YES.
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  9. Zone-swap Posted messages 478 Status Member 95
     
    The Athlon and Athlon XP on socket A burned very easily

    Yeah, but that's not the problem with socket A (besides, they're more of an outdated product and very rare to find for sale!!)

    It has an Asus M2NPV-MX

    Micro ATX format
    Processor Athlon 64 Athlon 64 FX Athlon 64 X2 Sempron
    Type of socket AM2
    Northbridge chipset NVIDIA GeForce 6150 / C51G
    Southbridge chipset NVIDIA nForce MCP 430
    Memory type DDR2
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    1. Spider_cochon78 Posted messages 8706 Status Contributor 1 203
       
      This was for your general knowledge, I noticed this time that it didn't have a socket A Athlon.

      Good night.
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      1. Zone-swap Posted messages 478 Status Member 95 > Spider_cochon78 Posted messages 8706 Status Contributor
         
        You don't need to give me general culture lessons!! I've been using AMD pros for over 10 years!! So I know, it's all good!!
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  10. flo88 Posted messages 28483 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   Ambassadeur 5 168
     
    The chances that the CPU is the cause are low, especially if the PC has been running for a year and without overclocking.
    A CPU burns out in the first month of use or never (if it is well-cooled).
    So, I bet on the motherboard; it is the most fragile component of a setup.

    However, it could come from elsewhere, maybe due to a shock, the card makes contact with the chassis and crashes due to a short circuit, this is more common than one might think.

    In any case, both the CPU and the motherboard are guaranteed for 3 years; if one is indeed dead, it will be necessary to determine which one. The cheaper one to replace is the motherboard (less than €50).
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    1. Spider_cochon78 Posted messages 8706 Status Contributor 1 203
       
      There is an exception for the CPU: if the processor fan is so dusty that it no longer cools anything, it can burn out months or years later.

      But I agree there may be some kind of short circuit or contact with the case.
      We should try to test the components by assembling them outside of the cases (on a square of foam or on a cardboard).
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