Scam on selling my car by a Moroccan!
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JB
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Good evening everyone!
To keep it brief, I put my car (BMW) up for sale on a free classifieds site (marché.fr). On the same day, I was contacted by a person named Mr. VOLLMER Gustave who is interested in my car. Here is the first email:
"Good evening
I am taking the liberty of replying to your message; I am still interested in the vehicle.
I would like to have a photo of the engine, a copy of the technical inspection if possible, and the mileage. Sorry if I may make this request, but since I am a French person abroad (Morocco), I think this is necessary.
Please know that you don't have to worry about transport, as I already have my forwarder in London who will come to you after I have received the money from you.
I look forward to your response as soon as possible.
Note: Thank you for sending me your landline number."
I reply:
"Good evening Mr. Vollmer Gustave
If you want a photo of the engine, you will have to wait until tomorrow evening.
The technical inspection is okay and clean, but since the 3-month period has expired, it needs to be redone, or would you like to do it yourself, and of course, I will deduct the price?
The mileage is 180,000.
What method of payment would you like to use to purchase the vehicle? Please note that it is out of the question to go through a banking method.
Thank you for keeping me updated as a potential buyer is coming on Tuesday to see the vehicle.
Sincerely."
To keep it brief, I put my car (BMW) up for sale on a free classifieds site (marché.fr). On the same day, I was contacted by a person named Mr. VOLLMER Gustave who is interested in my car. Here is the first email:
"Good evening
I am taking the liberty of replying to your message; I am still interested in the vehicle.
I would like to have a photo of the engine, a copy of the technical inspection if possible, and the mileage. Sorry if I may make this request, but since I am a French person abroad (Morocco), I think this is necessary.
Please know that you don't have to worry about transport, as I already have my forwarder in London who will come to you after I have received the money from you.
I look forward to your response as soon as possible.
Note: Thank you for sending me your landline number."
I reply:
"Good evening Mr. Vollmer Gustave
If you want a photo of the engine, you will have to wait until tomorrow evening.
The technical inspection is okay and clean, but since the 3-month period has expired, it needs to be redone, or would you like to do it yourself, and of course, I will deduct the price?
The mileage is 180,000.
What method of payment would you like to use to purchase the vehicle? Please note that it is out of the question to go through a banking method.
Thank you for keeping me updated as a potential buyer is coming on Tuesday to see the vehicle.
Sincerely."
12 answers
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Hello,
In my opinion, whether you are a seller or a buyer, you should start asking questions as soon as someone contacts you and makes up a story to get you to send them some money (for this reason or that)
I'm not saying it's 100% a scam, but it should be 90% of the time. So don't back off right away, but be 10 times more careful, and don't hesitate to talk to others (friends, colleagues, online forums...)
Finally, if you're planning to sell or buy your car in Morocco, I recommend this site:
https://www.voiturecom.com/
Free, Simple and excellent... Plus, it doesn't require any registration.-
In fact, the scam is simple and based on the stupidity (or indifference) of our bankers, let me explain:
The buyer will send you a check for an amount greater than the transaction + shipping (so that you can cash it). You deposit this check, the bank credits your account and sends it for collection overseas.
In the meantime, you see the money credited to your account, you ship the car (paying the shipping agent of course).
After a month, the bank informs you that the check has bounced (or that it was fake) and debits your account....
You have sent your car, paid for the transport, and your account is overdrawn... Bravo the scam, this is only possible because your bank credited the check amount quickly without warning you of the dubious origins of the check (when they should have a good database...).
Thanks once again to the bankers!!!
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Hello everyone, I see that scammers have bright days ahead of them
explain to me how you want to sell a car to a guy who is thousands of miles away
either you’re stupid or you’re desperate?
why are you looking for something complicated when a vehicle sells in person, directly, hand to hand
I spend my time selling cars online and believe me I’ve had hundreds of offers like “benin”, “morocco”, etc.. and I’ve always asked the guys to come in person (whom I’ve never met)
PS: not all Moroccans are scammers
A MOROCCAN WHO MEANS WELL -
I received an almost identical email from someone named Pierre Carnaud from Morocco:
Good evening;
I am writing to respond to your message; I am still interested in the vehicle.
I want to know the condition of the vehicle, if you have had an accident already, and if possible, the mileage. I apologize for making this request, but since I am French abroad (in Morocco), I think this is in order.
Rest assured, you have nothing to worry about regarding transport, as I already have my freight forwarder in London who will come to you after the money has been received on your part.
I await a response as soon as possible.
Pierre Carnaud
It smells like a scam all over
I sent him this email:
For more information, contact crétin.fr
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JB: Thank you for the info... fortunately, I always check online beforehand... I will not get in touch with this gentleman for the sale of my vehicle!
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After Ivory Coast, here comes Morocco, don't go any further with the transaction, it's a scam!
Read the forums on the topic "car scam"
Best regards
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Hello, I see that I'm not the only one receiving "crazy" emails!!!
I want to buy a car and I've found an interesting one, so I contacted the seller and his response was:
Hello
It is still available. It's a French registered vehicle that I've used here abroad. I just got a new service car for my mission and I want to sell it. Here in BENIN, people drive English cars with the steering wheel on the right; mine is on the left and it makes it difficult for me to sell it. So if you're interested, I'll sell it to you. It is in very good working condition, and I will send it to you through a transport company. Thank you for replying quickly. -
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Moroccans do not betray in their business... they fear God... I am an intermediary and I am Moroccan in car sales... and frankly... I only find honest men... they tell you the defects of the car and it’s up to you to decide, thank you.
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I often deal with Maghrebis in various business activities related to weddings, entertainment, and furniture, including Algerians, Tunisians, and Moroccans, and all those with whom I've had issues have been Moroccans...
The first time I thought it was an isolated case, the second time I didn't know he was Moroccan (until his identity was established for legal proceedings), and I was about to lump all Maghrebis together, the third time... I ruled out any idea of doing business with them.
As for the Algerians and Tunisians, I've had a few minor issues, but they were always resolved amicably.
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Hello, I bought a red GOLF 4 TDI DI with 115 HP according to the seller, cleared in May 2010 at a mechanic in Skhirat named Lhaloufa. After 4 months during a technical inspection, I found out that it's a Golf SDI with 68 HP, while he stuck TDI on the car and the engine just to increase the price. And unfortunately, on the registration documents from Halofa and mine it states TDI. This is high-level fraud. Beware dear friends.
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I have dealt with a lot of Moroccans and I have never had any problems. They even mention what issues there are in the cars, and it's up to you to decide.
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