Scam animal transport logging
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I responded to an ad on Facebook "Giving away a Sacred Birman kitten" from France. Immediately, "Logis transport animalier" replied to me for the transport costs of €150. I agreed, then every day for a week there were increases for various reasons, always via Neosurf. Unfortunately, I paid several times, culminating in the last payment of €450 to rent a van for the transport!!! At that point, I said STOP. Since then: daily harassment or they are suing me for abandonment of the kitten that I never received or was delivered. THE VAN IS MISSING!!!
Email of the company: ***@***. PHONE: +33977198223 with which I communicated. I have everything in emails... what should I do to file a complaint? Which site can help me? Thank you
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HELLO to you too!
Pet transport accommodation
Mouarff.. Silly company created by, no doubt, an imaginative scammer..
Everything is a sham except for the cash pocketed by the little scammer..
Worn-out scam.. No recourse..
See you!
Hello, I think I've been taken for a ride too; they keep sending me messages about a little chihuahua puppy.
Hello to you too,
Yes, 100% a scam...
Additionally, it is advised against getting an animal online for the following reasons:
Several very simple reasons:
An animal is a living being that must be able to live with the people who choose it.... and it is therefore through a "real" contact that it is possible to determine what is possible or not...
Seeing the animal at the seller/donor.... allows you to get an idea of how it has been treated.... to check the documents, the health status.... before "taking" the animal....
This also helps avoid significant stress for the animal depending on the conditions of transport.....
Finally, this helps to avoid falling into the traps of scammers (a typical example of this topic.....) with all the consequences that can arise from it.... the worst being potential identity theft, as the scammer manages at some point to obtain a copy of an identity document.....
So, an animal should be found within your circle, at a shelter, or in a pet store, and you should go to get it in person.
My mission is to kill time and for it to kill me in turn.
We are completely at ease among assassins. (E.Cioran)
Hello,
Regarding pet shops, the sale of dogs and cats will be banned starting January 1st.
Donations and sales of dogs and cats are already strictly regulated.
Even for donations, legal provisions specify that the announcement must be made on a site with a specialized section, that the adopter must sign a commitment certificate at least 7 days before the transfer, and that it must specify that this is a free donation with no financial compensation (not even for transport).
Those who love animals know, especially in terms of adoption, and if I may say, that it’s a burden; ultimately, just like those who fall victim to scammers have no idea of these contingencies and what adopting an animal entails, these scammers ultimately perform a public service by practically prohibiting these adoptions.
Hello,
Regarding pet shops, the sale of dogs and cats will be prohibited starting from next January first.
Absolutely, I actually plan to update my "template response" in due time... (even though of course it will remain as it is in the dozens of topics where I've already used it...)
These crooks are ultimately performing a public service mission by effectively banning these adopters.
Indeed ;)
I tend to think the same when pirates of this or that find themselves with their PCs infected... Even though of course, the incompetence of some animal adopters has far more serious consequences on "the living"... than the misfortunes of those who engage in intellectual property circumvention...
And then in these cursed times where everything must be instantaneous, it is the reward of patience.
As I mentioned in <2>, I adopted a senior dog in July who had been bitten and beaten.
At first, he kept four meters away from me and bit anything that touched him.
He remains slightly fearful and still tends to bite the hand, the weapon of blows, if it approaches bare too close and too quickly to his snout, but now he jumps on everyone to cuddle and be cuddled on the rest of his body.
It is a great reward and a significant victory.
It is certain that the "acquisition" of an animal was (too) often a whim without prior reflection... but today, with the trend of immediacy (for everything and anything...) and where the overexposure of thoughtless actions on (so-called) social networks... is primarily a matter of personal image... this can only accentuate impulsive acts and their consequences....
Being aware of the commitment that adopting an animal entails is the indispensable prerequisite... Shelters - aside from what legislation implies, do their utmost to guide and help adopters effectively... within the limits of their resources as well...
And fortunately, in many cases, even requiring efforts, adoption is a success...
Personally, I have refused to give in to any urges to adopt an animal... Lacking any family, I would have virtually no viable solution to care for the animal if a health issue were to affect me... Given my current disability situation, it wouldn’t always be easy on a day-to-day basis... In short, reason has prevailed.
I have only made it halfway.
When my previous dog (same breed, but it’s a coincidence) died of old age, I specifically chose a senior instead of a puppy because of my age.
Still small in size, it’s easier to manage and take with me wherever I go.
And then, the little creature in question, not many people wanted her because of her teeth: it was taking a gamble to give her a bit of happiness as long as my health doesn’t prevent me from it, or the almost certainty of leaving her in a foster home for the rest of her days.
Good evening to both of you,
I don't have a pet and have never felt the need for one, but your exchange brought tears to my eyes.
Thank you for your dedication.
Hello,
Just like with environmental actions, it is often individuals, whether alone or collectively (in associations...) who take the most action for animal - and plant as well...
The remaining work is colossal... as in these areas the room for improvement is enormous... Between changing mindsets and amending laws (or even "simply" enforcing existing ones...) - We must not forget that not long ago, animals were considered "movable property" (like a wardrobe or a chair...) and that their recognition as sensitive beings is recent!...
Nevertheless, there are a multitude of possibilities, from financial participation and/or involvement in shelters... to adopting an animal... From education(*) to practical action, everyone can contribute something!...
With therefore, more specifically in these categories, the possibility of receiving unconditional affection in return -without calculations therefore... from the "beneficiaries" ...
(*) Even if often in these areas, children and teens are usually the most open, it still remains essential to explain, when needed, that an animal will require care, availability, and attention over time... that it also comes at a cost, and that a "crush" alone cannot justify the adoption or "acquisition" - this term is pretty ugly... of a living being... - I clarify this due to the numerous discussions where we see motivations that are primarily very superficial......
Hello, can I know if you managed to do anything? I spoke to a lady who has two kittens to give away that will be transported by Logis Trans animal service, and they asked me to buy some coupons... so I’m afraid it might be a scam????????????
Hello Dalfone
Same answer as for the others, go to animal shelters, you would no longer be in compliance for direct donations. And the future of the animals is not guaranteed. They apparently only do transport for the protection laws.
You add to the discussion the detail that "makes" the scam: they ask you to buy coupons,
Hello,
Moreover, even from a purely arithmetic standpoint and outside of any legal (it's forbidden) or ethical consideration, this coupon story escapes me.
Indeed, in shelters, there are unfortunately cats of all ages and all kinds raining down.
They will ask you for a fee corresponding to the vaccination and sterilization of the cat, but which in the end will cost you less than the famous coupons, and in exchange, you will actually get a cat.
But already let's stop believing that we "give" a purebred cat or dog.
Then, a proper transporter will either give you a quote with the identification of the animal and possibly a 30% deposit on the transport, with the remainder due upon delivery.
You can also ask for the animal's microchip number and have your veterinarian verify that it's a real number properly registered in France.
And yes, you can file a complaint online with as much information and screenshots of your messages and payments as possible.
Hello,
Yes, yes, for example, people who go abroad or who abandon their dog (that's the case with mine, which despite its pedigree only cost me the reimbursement of vaccines at the shelter).
But transportation is not the problem in itself, as illustrated in the previous comments: an individual can only give up an animal without any compensation (not even for transportation), and in a specialized pet section, they are prohibited from selling online.
Professional breeders, on the other hand, do not give away and justify their listings with the legal mentions of their company (SIRET...), and I would be very surprised if they sell and ship by mail.
Hello,
I adopted a small senior dog a few weeks ago, healthy but by definition not easy to place.
The fostering organization naturally asked me for a commitment certificate, a visit from his "nanny," a video description supporting my living conditions, inquired about my motivations, and my experience with pets...
The tables turned? You don’t adopt an animal like you buy a pack of laundry detergent, without it knowing anything about you and vice versa.