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Hello!
Currently, I am researching the top schools, universities, and other reputable institutions in computer science in France. I've found two that belong to the same group, but I'm not quite clear on the difference between them: EPITA (http://www.epita.fr) and EPITECH (http://www.epitech.eu/v4/).
So if you could provide me with information about these two institutions and other computer science-oriented establishments, I would be very grateful!
Thank you in advance
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oOo-Human happiness is made up of so many pieces that there is always something missing-oOo
Currently, I am researching the top schools, universities, and other reputable institutions in computer science in France. I've found two that belong to the same group, but I'm not quite clear on the difference between them: EPITA (http://www.epita.fr) and EPITECH (http://www.epitech.eu/v4/).
So if you could provide me with information about these two institutions and other computer science-oriented establishments, I would be very grateful!
Thank you in advance
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oOo-Human happiness is made up of so many pieces that there is always something missing-oOo
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Epita is a very recent engineering school; I believe it has just obtained its accreditation (even though the school has existed for many years).
Epitech is a computer science school from the same group as Epita, but the degree obtained is not an engineering degree, and the training is more focused on computer science and programming.
For my part, I can provide information about In'Tech INFO, which is also a computer science school with the particularity of learning through practice. Indeed, two-thirds of the time spent at the school is dedicated to carrying out a project during which the student will implement the technologies they have learned in class.
This allows the student to learn in a playful way rather than through a lecture or a sheet of paper.
We have two options: software engineering (programming) and systems and networks.
The training lasts 3 years at the school followed by two years of work-study in a company.
Eric Lalitte
Instructor at In'Tech INFO in systems and networks
<http://www.intechinfo.fr
Epitech is a computer science school from the same group as Epita, but the degree obtained is not an engineering degree, and the training is more focused on computer science and programming.
For my part, I can provide information about In'Tech INFO, which is also a computer science school with the particularity of learning through practice. Indeed, two-thirds of the time spent at the school is dedicated to carrying out a project during which the student will implement the technologies they have learned in class.
This allows the student to learn in a playful way rather than through a lecture or a sheet of paper.
We have two options: software engineering (programming) and systems and networks.
The training lasts 3 years at the school followed by two years of work-study in a company.
Eric Lalitte
Instructor at In'Tech INFO in systems and networks
<http://www.intechinfo.fr
I see what you mean ^^
But I mean, with about 2 and a half years of internship and all, doesn't it interfere too much with learning new concepts in class + practical work? Because in 2 and a half years, we learn a lot of things ^^ Of course, I’m aware of the concrete experience that comes from it.
Otherwise, I think I’ll take a look at your tutorials ;)
Thanks for your help!
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oOo-Human happiness is made up of so many pieces that there’s always something missing-oOo
But I mean, with about 2 and a half years of internship and all, doesn't it interfere too much with learning new concepts in class + practical work? Because in 2 and a half years, we learn a lot of things ^^ Of course, I’m aware of the concrete experience that comes from it.
Otherwise, I think I’ll take a look at your tutorials ;)
Thanks for your help!
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oOo-Human happiness is made up of so many pieces that there’s always something missing-oOo
Thank you for the replies!
About In'Tech INFO, one thing that bothers me is that there is no campus or other accommodations for students (I don't live in Paris, and getting an apartment before the end of my studies doesn't sound appealing, especially since it's expensive ^^). As for the program, other IT schools also have a lot of practical work now (according to students). But thanks anyway for the advice, it will be very helpful for choosing among the list (that spans several kilometers lol) of IT schools ^^
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oOo-Human happiness is made up of so many pieces that there is always something missing-oOo
About In'Tech INFO, one thing that bothers me is that there is no campus or other accommodations for students (I don't live in Paris, and getting an apartment before the end of my studies doesn't sound appealing, especially since it's expensive ^^). As for the program, other IT schools also have a lot of practical work now (according to students). But thanks anyway for the advice, it will be very helpful for choosing among the list (that spans several kilometers lol) of IT schools ^^
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oOo-Human happiness is made up of so many pieces that there is always something missing-oOo
There will be a campus by 2010 :-)
Furthermore, we have partnerships with student housing residences next to the school (Arpej residence) that allow students to be close to the school and together.
Finally, there's practice and practice!
Making a mini program in a week and carrying out an ambitious project over four months is absolutely not the same. Admittedly, there are advantages and disadvantages in both cases, but one is closer to and better prepares you for the work you will have to do in a company.
Good luck with your research!
Eric Lalitte
In'Tech INFO Teacher in Systems and Networks
<http://www.intechinfo.fr>
Furthermore, we have partnerships with student housing residences next to the school (Arpej residence) that allow students to be close to the school and together.
Finally, there's practice and practice!
Making a mini program in a week and carrying out an ambitious project over four months is absolutely not the same. Admittedly, there are advantages and disadvantages in both cases, but one is closer to and better prepares you for the work you will have to do in a company.
Good luck with your research!
Eric Lalitte
In'Tech INFO Teacher in Systems and Networks
<http://www.intechinfo.fr>
Ok, but as for practice, doesn't the "too much" practice negatively affect the learning of knowledge? I mean, if we practice more, we learn fewer new things, or we learn them less in detail (... well, you see what I mean), right?
If there's a campus planned for 2010, then it's all good, that's perfect ^^
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oOo-Human happiness is made up of so many pieces that there are always some missing-oOo
If there's a campus planned for 2010, then it's all good, that's perfect ^^
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oOo-Human happiness is made up of so many pieces that there are always some missing-oOo
It's a good question :-)
I think we learn much better by practicing than by looking at a piece of paper or when someone provides you with the solution.
Take the example of learning what DNS is.
If I give a lesson on this concept, the students will learn what it is, and even understand the principles, but many of them might have a vague idea as long as they haven't actually seen what it corresponds to. The day they have to handle a DNS server, they will have some memories of the theory, but they'll need to catch up and discover the implementation that has been done.
On the other hand, if I give them a mini-lecture on DNS just to get them started and then ask them to implement a DNS server.
During the implementation, there will be two essential points:
1- Re-evaluation of what has been learned
2- Encountering problems
These two points will allow the student to ask themselves questions, and either find the answers on their own or ask for help from a teacher.
In the end, the student will have truly deepened their knowledge, and I have no doubts that they will know how to perfectly install a DNS server or answer any questions about it later.
Experience it yourself if you have the necessary knowledge by implementing a VPN server using OpenVPN.
1- You read the online course on the OpenVPN website and try to understand what it's about.
2- You attend my e-learning class
http://elearning.itinet.fr/cours_intechinfo/securite/Installation%20d%27un%20serveur%20VPN%20avec%20OpenVPN%20sous%20Debian/index.html
and you try to implement it
3- You check if you really understood the concepts during the first step and what you have understood and retained additionally during the second
I think you will quickly understand the difference between learning through practice.
For us, the best example is when we attend our students' internship presentations and the supervisor tells us, "I had planned for two months of adjustment, but he was operational after two weeks."
It's not always the case, but it's nice to hear it :-)
Always good luck in your research.
Eric Lalitte
Teacher at In'Tech INFO in systems and networks
<http://www.intechinfo.fr
I think we learn much better by practicing than by looking at a piece of paper or when someone provides you with the solution.
Take the example of learning what DNS is.
If I give a lesson on this concept, the students will learn what it is, and even understand the principles, but many of them might have a vague idea as long as they haven't actually seen what it corresponds to. The day they have to handle a DNS server, they will have some memories of the theory, but they'll need to catch up and discover the implementation that has been done.
On the other hand, if I give them a mini-lecture on DNS just to get them started and then ask them to implement a DNS server.
During the implementation, there will be two essential points:
1- Re-evaluation of what has been learned
2- Encountering problems
These two points will allow the student to ask themselves questions, and either find the answers on their own or ask for help from a teacher.
In the end, the student will have truly deepened their knowledge, and I have no doubts that they will know how to perfectly install a DNS server or answer any questions about it later.
Experience it yourself if you have the necessary knowledge by implementing a VPN server using OpenVPN.
1- You read the online course on the OpenVPN website and try to understand what it's about.
2- You attend my e-learning class
http://elearning.itinet.fr/cours_intechinfo/securite/Installation%20d%27un%20serveur%20VPN%20avec%20OpenVPN%20sous%20Debian/index.html
and you try to implement it
3- You check if you really understood the concepts during the first step and what you have understood and retained additionally during the second
I think you will quickly understand the difference between learning through practice.
For us, the best example is when we attend our students' internship presentations and the supervisor tells us, "I had planned for two months of adjustment, but he was operational after two weeks."
It's not always the case, but it's nice to hear it :-)
Always good luck in your research.
Eric Lalitte
Teacher at In'Tech INFO in systems and networks
<http://www.intechinfo.fr
In fact, the first part of the curriculum allows students to learn the technical and human foundations, and the second part in the company allows them to familiarize themselves with the company's methods, other professions aside from IT for which we offer services, and to orient their career based on the fields that seem interesting to them after having truly experienced them in the company.
It's a whole and it works quite well according to the feedback we receive from the companies and the starting salaries of our students (€34k for the last cohort)
PS: You can find more courses at https://www.lalitte.com/index.php/Accueil
Eric Lalitte
Teacher at In'Tech INFO in systems and networks
<http://www.intechinfo.fr
It's a whole and it works quite well according to the feedback we receive from the companies and the starting salaries of our students (€34k for the last cohort)
PS: You can find more courses at https://www.lalitte.com/index.php/Accueil
Eric Lalitte
Teacher at In'Tech INFO in systems and networks
<http://www.intechinfo.fr
Ok, I see!
The salary is not bad either by the way ;)
As for registration/tuition fees... how much do they go up to, and I suppose there are scholarship opportunities? What are the criteria for awarding them?
Thank you again!
The salary is not bad either by the way ;)
As for registration/tuition fees... how much do they go up to, and I suppose there are scholarship opportunities? What are the criteria for awarding them?
Thank you again!
Tuition fees are €3900 per semester for the first five semesters, then €720, and the last two years are paid for by your company.
There is currently no possibility of a scholarship as we have not yet received accreditation from the RNCP (National Register of Professional Certifications), but it is in progress.
About 30% of our students self-finance. This means they take out a student loan or work outside of classes to pay for their studies.
It should be noted that the hours spent at school are sufficient in themselves and there is very little work to do at home, which allows for other activities outside of school.
Feel free to ask if you have any other questions.
Eric Lalitte
Teacher at In'Tech INFO in systems and networks
<http://www.intechinfo.fr
There is currently no possibility of a scholarship as we have not yet received accreditation from the RNCP (National Register of Professional Certifications), but it is in progress.
About 30% of our students self-finance. This means they take out a student loan or work outside of classes to pay for their studies.
It should be noted that the hours spent at school are sufficient in themselves and there is very little work to do at home, which allows for other activities outside of school.
Feel free to ask if you have any other questions.
Eric Lalitte
Teacher at In'Tech INFO in systems and networks
<http://www.intechinfo.fr
Thanks for all this information!
It's really going to help me in my search for a higher education school!
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oOo-Human happiness is made up of so many pieces that there is always one missing-oOo
It's really going to help me in my search for a higher education school!
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oOo-Human happiness is made up of so many pieces that there is always one missing-oOo
I don't know if I'm the only one, but clearly expressing one's point of view is good… but with such a massacre of grammar and spelling, it hurts the eyes. I can only imagine the suffering of the evaluators, proofreaders, or anyone else you have to communicate with in writing. Even though it's an informal discussion, the rigor of the form remains. It's a bit like forgetting a parenthesis in a line of code; a crash at the output is guaranteed.