SOS infecté par keylogger, spoofing

juni11590 Posted messages 4 Status Member -  
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Hello,
I’m writing to you for some information!!
I’m not very good at computers at all
a few months ago, I was debited on my bank account for amounts coming from subscriptions to X-rated websites on the net!!!
since I’ve never dealt with such things an opposition was made!!
everything is going quite well except for one company called "savoir faire prod" based in Cagnes-sur-Mer, which keeps sending me reminders and is threatening to take me to court for €70!!!!!

The problem is:

The day I saw these amounts I scanned my computer and it was infested with trojans, backdoors, keyloggers...
once all these pests were eradicated, my computer crashed and I lost everything, years of photos, documents;;;; strange, isn’t it?

I managed to recover a good part, but in your opinion was I a victim of spoofing???

because I was told that with a keylogger the hacker obtained my card numbers and codes when I made purchases online and took advantage of it to visit paid sites in my place with my IP and my banking details

thank you for responding because this company keeps sending me very aggressive emails and is now demanding €150 for file and legal fees

thank you in advance

Fabrice

17 answers

  1. Regis59 Posted messages 21143 Registration date   Status Security Contributor Last intervention   1 349
     
    Hi Fabrice!

    So you come at just the right time :)

    Even though I help people on forums, I myself fell victim to a credit card scam.

    What exactly do you want? Do you want us to disinfect your PC?

    Regarding the scam, if you've never been on adult sites and you're sure no one else could have done that.
    Can you give me the name of the company?
    Maybe a website?

    Have you filed a complaint?

    See you!
    --
    "I had a dream of a better world...Without differences in color...Equality..."-MLK-
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    1. juni11590 Posted messages 4 Status Member
       
      Thank you for your response!!!

      In fact, I disinfected my PC in September, and as if by miracle, a bunch of keyloggers, backdoors, etc. appeared, and once all these bugs were eradicated thanks to Spybot and AdAware, my computer started acting up and then I had to format it and I lost everything!!

      But the most annoying thing is that the withdrawals I had on my account were refunded to me, except now a company named "Savoir Faire Prod" is claiming €70 + €70 in processing fees for rejection and threatening me with legal action, all by email!!! Is this legal???

      I'm afraid that I have been a victim of IP spoofing and that if investigations are conducted, it will be my IP address that appears!!!!! How can I prove my good faith!!! That's the question!!! If you can help me, that would be great!!!

      Sorry, I work nights, I will respond to you tomorrow morning if you ever have a solution for me

      Thank you, talk to you later.
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  2. juni11590 Posted messages 4 Status Member
     
    apparently no one has a solution for me!!!!!
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  3. Regis59 Posted messages 21143 Registration date   Status Security Contributor Last intervention   1 349
     
    Hi,

    but the most annoying thing is that the payments I had taken from my account were refunded, but now a company named "savoir faire prod" is claiming 70€ + 70€ in processing fees for rejection and is threatening me with legal action, all via email!!! Is this legal???

    Could you give us an example of these emails? (Hide your name and address if they are present). I'm not a legal expert but I don't think this is legal! Especially don't pay. Are you opening all the emails? Don't open the next ones.
    Did you provide them with your credit card number?

    I'm afraid I may have been a victim of IP usurpation and that if they do searches, my IP number will show up!!!!!
    How can I prove my good faith!!! That's the question!!! If you can help me that would be great!!!

    If your IP was usurped, it will be more difficult! In that case:
    - Do you know the day and date when you would have placed the order?
    If you know exactly when, you could prove that you were working (if that's the case) and in that case, file a complaint against X.

    Sorry I'm working nights I'll reply to you tomorrow morning if you ever have a solution for me

    I'm still in school so I answer when I can ;-)

    See you later
    --
    "I dreamed of a better world...Without differences in colors...Equality..." -MLK-
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    1. juni11590 Posted messages 4 Status Member
       
      Thank you for your response!!
      I received an email saying that he filed a complaint for credit card fraud, but I never received a follow-up by mail!!! What freaks me out is that if the police dig into my computer or get informed by my ISP, I do a lot of downloading via P2P!! So not cool!! I’m sending you a few emails that I received

      See you soon

      Here are the emails!!!
      Mr. xxxxxxxxxxxx

      Since September 23, 2006, I thank you for finally getting in touch with our services following our letter.

      You said:

      however, it turns out that I have
      > never dealt with you and that the rejected amounts were due to the fact that I was
      > a victim of hacking a few months ago via my credit card, you are not the only ones and I had to block my credit card!!

      Then:

      > I also contacted a consumer defense association
      > to assert my rights
      > and I learned that your methods are not at all legal.


      So let's revisit this, sir, you tell us that you've never dealt with our services but yet you are making a complaint to a consumer association instead of turning to the person who would have scrupulously used your personal payment method, your personal name and first name, your personal place of residence???

      I don't really understand this logic, it is not representative of honesty but be that as it may, if indeed someone has used your payment method without your knowledge, are we not both victims?? Our company, managing credit cards for over 150 sites (I specify) would also have reimbursed services that were consumed and unduly refunded.

      One can only hope that the IP address of the subscribing computer that the competent authorities will look for to identify the true "subscriber" in this dispute is not also yours, because this would imply that with all this personal information someone close to you could be the author, and unfortunately our own complaint for "credit card fraud" will not be stopped if we get to that point.

      "that the rejected amounts were"

      The rejection occurred on September 23, 2006
      Two previous installments were reimbursed to your bank by our bank (70 euros). But in this you confirm that you are indeed the legal responsible for the payment method No. 4974 xxxx 0836 7304.


      > I also contacted a consumer defense association
      > to assert my rights
      > and I learned that your methods are not at all legal.

      Sir, you are part of the 1.5% of disputes with our services, with only one case of true payment method usurpation our company has existed for 6 years with thousands of satisfied internet users, so I would be grateful if you could send me the list of "our not at all legal methods," surely you would teach us about our work as well as our legal service.

      I would also appreciate it if you could revisit the "Sylse" site, which you say you have never dealt with, and observe the laws strictly applied there. And at the same time finally discover what you have "never seen"

      For example on the subscription form
      https://secure.hebergesex.com/savoirfaireprod/pay/forms/abo.php?PARTNER=sylse

      Or again on the general terms of sale
      http://secure.hebergesex.com/...

      Site:
      https://www.sylse.com/US/langues.php
      https means secure server...Just for your information


      > Apparently I am neither the first nor the only one in this situation, as on
      > various forums, people talk about your ways of acting, as well as the lack of
      > security causing these various problems
      Which site are you talking about??

      I would strongly advise you to avoid making such remarks towards us which could be construed as defamation and could be added to your contentious file ... legally, of course.

      Please provide us with a list of "these various problems." That would be really interesting.

      In conclusion, I confirm that by preferring judicial action over amicable resolution, THE ACTUAL RESPONSIBLE SUBSCRIBER will consequently be legally compelled not only to REFUND THE DISPUTED AMOUNTS but also to PAY THE BANKING, TAX, AND CONTENTIOUS MANAGEMENT FEES incurred

      until now by our company as well as the payment of sums civilly/penally recognized as damages and interests under article 1144 of the civil code.

      Thus:


      Principal: 70 euros

      Banking, taxation and case management fees: 54.94 euros

      Reminder Fees (art.4 D 18.12.96): 30.00 euros

      TOTAL today: 151.94 euros





      And if you are really not responsible for this subscription, I am fully able to believe in your good faith, the IP address and log files will help the competent authorities to exonerate you during our complaint for "credit card fraud," not with consumer defense services but with the Public Prosecutor of Nice.



      The exact address of the subscribing computer will be quickly revealed and thus we will identify the true subscriber.



      To the extent that you yourself are a victim of fraud, with the information in our possession, it would be wise to check your closest circle (friend, family, wife, child...)



      We remain at your disposal for any questions..

      Regards
      Miss Ode
      Litigation Service
      Savoir Faire Productions

      and!!Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 11:21 AM
      Subject: RE: INFO CONFIRMATION OF LEGAL COLLECTION


      > Hello;
      > Thank you for your extremely aggressive response!!!!!

      > I am sending you a report on IP address usurpation due to spyware
      > of which I have been a victim like many others, where unfortunately it is
      > nearly impossible to prove one's good faith!

      >
      > Hacking and computer security

      >

      > Why would someone hack my computer?

      >
      > The number of servers having significantly increased, hackers now have
      > a growing force. Indeed, if hackers use your machines (servers or personal computers), it is often not for your data (which do not interest them at all), but to use the power of these machines simultaneously to attack a target or usurp your identity to cover their tracks.
      > Are you well protected against these threats?

      >
      > The number of incidents related to network security continues to rise
      > year after year. Moreover, these incidents cost victims more and more. A hacker can be anyone, from a computer genius who is both a system administrator, network administrator, and programmer, to a simple 12 or 14-year-old kid who bought a magazine with hacking software or downloaded programs from the internet.

      >
      >
      >
      > Your computer: a training ground

      >

      >
      >
      > Among "apprentice hackers", some will try software or programs on random targets via scanning. A scan is performed using a free software which is an IP scanner. This software will usually scan an entire range of IP addresses to detect which are active, then look at each port of a machine to see which ports are open, and the potential vulnerabilities that would allow an attack on the target machine. This could be one of the reasons why your computer is the target of a hacker. Your machine is often hacked only to test equipment or an attack. The hacker usually doesn’t know who you are (and doesn’t care at all). The only thing that motivates them is the success of an "exploit."
      The problem is that some attacks can be disastrous and cost you dearly...





      Some attacks may have a completely different objective...





      Some attacks, usually by more competent people in hacking, will use your computer as a gateway to commit their crimes.

      This can serve to mask their identity and impersonate you, which is quite annoying and can cause you some trouble. A friend recently had a visit from the police at his home because someone was usurping his IP address to download MP3s...

      The idea can also be to use your computer to launch a massive attack towards a target. If a hacker controls several hundreds, even thousands of machines (both personal computers and servers (which are connected permanently), they can launch a simultaneous attack to try to block or slow down a machine, for example...





      How to protect yourself from this threat?





      There are three rules to best protect yourself.

      The first is simply to regularly update your software and operating systems (Windows Update for Windows, for example). Indeed, updates often close security vulnerabilities that, if left unpatched, create open doors to the outside. To use a simple metaphor, it’s like putting your house keys in a spot and writing on your door: the keys are in this location... Because as soon as a security vulnerability is discovered, it is usually widely disseminated on the internet and budding hackers just have to exploit it.

      The second is to use a firewall that is properly configured. We recommend Zone Alarm and Kerio firewalls that you can easily find on the internet.

      The third thing to do is to have a good antivirus that is regularly updated. We recommend AVG, which is compatible with Windows and Linux and which is, in our opinion, the best and cheapest. We are authorized resellers of this antivirus that you can acquire through our store by clicking here.


      piratage-informatique.com © 2005
      Legal mentions. Terms of use of this site

      | | | Inbox


      
      Sir,

      I only respond aggressively to aggressive emails, are we not speaking the same language?

      It is very unfortunate that you didn't find a listing regarding
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  4. Regis59 Posted messages 21143 Registration date   Status Security Contributor Last intervention   1 349
     
    Hello

    Legally I don’t know, but strange yes!

    Have you tried calling directly at:
    Miss Ode
    Collections Department
    Savoir Faire Productions

    Have you really been to this site:https://www.sylse.com/US/langues.php
    Or someone in your family?

    Can you try to contact this woman or by email to find out when and at what time you would have purchased a subscription X?

    See you +
    --
    "I had a dream of a better world...Without differences of colors...Equality..."-MLK-
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  5. hercule
     
    This kind of company is very difficult to locate. I've been trying for 2 days
    and nothing, absolutely nothing, not an address, not a phone number, NOTHING!!!
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    1. carmos
       
      salt

      I'm encountering the same problem: 2 debit card purchases of 35 euros each charged to my account, under the name "savoir faire"! I just sent a message to the contact "sylse" to request information about their contact details and the name of their company. I'm waiting for their response.
      Should I file a complaint?
      Thank you for your response.
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  6. hercule5962
     
    I did the same thing
    I am waiting
    for your information, we can find them via the site infogreff.fr, it is the commercial court register

    after reviewing my bank statements, I just realized that this has been going on for 10 months
    (negligence on my part, I have the annoying habit of reading my statement quickly and only caring about the balance at the bottom of the page like many, I think)
    so I will send a registered letter with acknowledgment of receipt for an amicable settlement if this company is reachable
    after seeking advice from my banker and the gendarme handling the case
    in this type of problem, it is interesting to call on professionals
    in the utmost transparency
    as for me, the IP address story doesn't concern me, they can look for a long time
    there's nothing to find except yesterday for the information request
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    1. carmos
       
      Thank you for your response! In my case, they debited 9 euros in June
      then 35 on July 9 and 35 on August 9. Do you advise me to file
      a complaint? If so, what document should I present at the gendarmerie?
      (bank statement) what are the risks for me?
      > here is what I found with infogreffe:
      >
      > Brand: Savoir Faire Productions
      > Commercial name: Savoir Faire Productions Homebox Records
      > Main establishment
      > 3 RUE ARMAND CASARI
      > 06830 GILETTE
      > Activity (NAF code) 923A
      > Sole proprietorships are not required to file their
      accounts with the Registry
      >
      > Registered on 11/16/2000
      > SAVOIR FAIRE PRODS BP09 - 06830 GILETTE FRANCE
      > T
      > él: 08.99.785.785 (service code 6166 will be requested)
      > PRODUCTION FOR ALL AUDIENCES:
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  7. Regis59 Posted messages 21143 Registration date   Status Security Contributor Last intervention   1 349
     
    Hi

    Anyway, you need to block your account first, that's the first thing to do.

    See you
    --
    "I had a dream of a better world... Without differences in color... Equality..." -MLK-
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    1. hercule5962
       
      for my part
      a complaint has been filed for the last withdrawal, I initially thought it was identity theft or a stolen card number
      now I need to see
      I am about to send them a registered letter with acknowledgment of receipt after discussing it with the police officer handling my case
      see below

      Sir


      After a thorough examination of my bank statements
      "Like many, I only look at the balance, which I will correct from this day on!"
      I was surprised to discover card withdrawals xxxxxxxx in favor of savoir-faire prod in Cagnes-sur-Mer (06)
      While I agree with the withdrawal of €6 on 11/09/2006
      concerning access to a website for a limited duration
      I contest the withdrawals of €35 totaling 10 that followed
      The 11th on 20/07/2007 having been blocked by my bank
      It is easy for you to verify that I have not accessed the site after this €6 payment

      I am counting on your diligence to resolve this situation

      Without news from you within 15 days "date of receipt of this letter"
      I will have no choice but to call upon the competent authorities

      I also want to indicate that it is very difficult to locate you
      Absence of your company in all directories and search engines


      Sincerely
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  8. Barabath
     
    Hello,

    I stumbled upon this discussion by chance and I’d like to add a little comment:
    I have been aware of Savoir-Faire Productions for years (some of their websites) without ever subscribing to their services via credit card (just two or three allopass).

    I say this without pride or shame, I regularly visit adult sites.
    I have already used my credit card on American sites.

    In hindsight, I think that was much riskier because after all, Savoir-Faire really exists and Gillette is not the end of the world (if I really get scammed in the States, what do I do?).

    Some might have noticed that in my message, I clearly talk about getting scammed... but after using my credit card.
    And that’s really the problem.

    In my opinion, the theft of credit card information by a stranger is not even 1% of the total.
    The rest (99%) is from a spouse, a child, in short, a close person.

    Because, I remind you, the visual cryptogram (CVV: last 3 numbers on the back of the card) serves only one purpose: to narrow down the search field in case of fraud. Indeed, entering these 3 numbers generally implies the physical possession of the card at some point or another.

    So, sure, I say generally because you can always bring up the keylogger argument... but you must have really bought your PC from a hacker-assembler:

    Do you know many PCs with all options (I mean all, and good luck doing that on Windows) of security disabled? If your PC is like that, I have no qualms in saying that you’re the biggest idiot.

    No, honestly, juni11590 if you are acting in good faith, you really have no luck... or at least as much bad luck as the luck of the EuroMillions winner. But it’s true, it happens.

    P.S.: I don’t know Savoir-Faire Prod (we're not buddies) and I have no interest in defending them.
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  9. SVE shit
     
    Hello, go check the Rights and Freedom Forum for this kind of fraud (mainly concerning SVE-Store...). There are even people who have never made online purchases who have been wrongly charged!! There is theft of credit card numbers followed by fraudulent use on a large scale.. The so-called 'secure' payment sites are not secure!!! They have not implemented the techniques needed to authenticate the subscriber (e.g.: Virtual Keyboard OR pictogram to copy).
    As for the collection agencies, they are bluffing... They cannot claim 'fees' at any time.. Only in the case of a judicial decision can collection fees be charged. Collection agencies only have dynamic addresses that only allow knowing the ISP. To know the identity of the user, a Judge must authorize that there is currently large-scale fraud... The 'Secure' payment organizations do not report this to avoid scaring potential buyers.. I believe we should not give in to the threats of Collection Agencies that are just bluffing! However, it is important to file a detailed complaint and contact a consumer defense organization.. Good luck! Here we were refunded for the fraudulent withdrawals.. There is a lot to say about certain companies 'selling' adult content online.. Their methods are not very clear...
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  10. SVE shit
     
    Hello, parts of the previous text have disappeared!....... The forensic police/gendarmerie services are fully aware that there is large-scale fraud.....
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  11. red250
     
    In short, what can we charge them or let them go through a lawsuit that will cost them even more?
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  12. red250
     
    I'm in Belgium, and they themselves offer a monthly subscription even if you take a 1 euro promotion via your credit card. So, you need to ask for proof of the contract for a subscription. It's better to write everything to the police department that deals with cybercrime and tell them that you expect them in front of a judge; a lawsuit would cost these idiots a lot. They provide you with a contract that shows their proof. For those who, like me, took a 4 euro promotion for one day, we suddenly see a charge of 35 euros per month! Guys, don't give in; they are just scammers taking advantage of naive people.
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  13. evile
     
    Hello, I am also reacting to this topic.
    Indeed, I subscribed once on a site to something for 4 or 9€, I don't remember exactly, it was valid for 7 days for visiting the site.

    And now I see that I have been debited 35€ every time for 2 months under the name "savoir faire produc". What is this madness, how do they think they can make subscriptions like this to people??
    I admit that I visited some adult sites, but that's no reason to take my money like this. I imagine if they do this with everyone who subscribes to something for 7 days, there shouldn't just be isolated cases.

    I contacted my bank card provider, and they advised me to block my card, but I will go to my bank to see exactly what they say.
    Because it’s fine to block my card, but afterwards they still have my personal data there, I think I'm also going to file a complaint.
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  14. evile
     
    Re, my problem is solved as far as I'm concerned.
    Fortunately, I found in my email inbox the connection details for my 7-day subscription, and with these credentials, I was able to cancel the subscription and contact the service in question.
    I was in the wrong because the general terms state that if the subscription is not canceled by myself, it is automatically converted to a monthly subscription.
    They're not stupid, these people, so next time I will make sure to read the general terms of this kind of website.

    So be careful.
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