Kitten scam pet transport agency

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hippomath -
Playmofluo - 14 Jan 2015 at 19:01

Il semble effectivement que ces messages présentent des signes typiques d'escroquerie. Voici quelques éléments qui pourraient indiquer une arnaque :

1. **Don plutôt que vente** : Les escrocs prétendent souvent donner un animal au lieu de le vendre, afin d'éviter les complications liées à l'argent.

2. **Urgence et pression** : Les demandeurs insistent souvent pour obtenir une réponse rapide, créant un sentiment d'urgence pour pousser à une décision hâtive.

3. **Frais de transport** : La demande de frais de transport pour l'envoi de l'animal est un indicateur commun d'escroquerie.

4. **Adresse e-mail suspecte** : L'utilisation d'une adresse e-mail gratuite et non professionnelle est souvent un signe de fraude.

5. **Incohérences et fautes** : Des erreurs grammaticales et des incohérences dans le texte peuvent également être des signes d'une arnaque.

Il est recommandé de ne pas donner d'informations personnelles et de ne pas effectuer de paiements. Vous pourriez éventuellement signaler ces messages aux autorités compétentes.

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Answer 1 / 123

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Pacorabanix Posted messages 4122 Registration date Status Member Last intervention 663

scam without doubt.
First, they get tangled up in the fake names they invent..
Then they immediately throw around big words (talking about AIDS...)
afterwards you will certainly have some confusion, for example a phone call from the so-called delivery company, saying they are late, but you still have to pay in advance, etc...

in short, don’t even respond, and encourage the people you know who receive this kind of thing to do the same.
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1. hippomath
  
  Thank you for your answer, and the ad was in the top ads, by the way, they already removed it from the site, just a few minutes after our email exchange!!!!
  
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2. myriam113
  
  I replied to an ad for a staff dog and received exactly the same email word for word except that instead of cat it was puppy hamstaff...
  
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Answer 2 / 123
mimine

RRRRo the cow excuse me but I just got scammed here!!!!
At my place she doesn't have the same name, she would be a sister and yet she says the same thing and sends the same emails for sure it's the same person except that I, naive as ever and especially very rushed, have been sending her emails for several days and I think I have said too much!!!!
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1. Pacorabanix Posted messages 4122 Registration date Status Member Last intervention 663
  
  Yes, unfortunately :( please check with a police station to see if there is anything you can do in your particular case... but there is little hope.
  
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Answer 3 / 123
JP

Hello

We had a doubt about a similar ad for a Persian kitten and this forum confirms the scam on the subject. This is now a variant in England, from a certain
"nocolas mercier" <nicolas_lecoin12@live.fr> (note: the two names in the address are not identical...)

Hello, first of all thank you for taking the time to read our ad. We have read your email in our family inbox, and we are delighted to hear from you since we are always looking for people who can adopt our kittens. The kittens are still with us, but I would like to know which of the two that are not yet reserved you would really like to welcome into your family? There are two of them, one male and one female, so it will depend on your decision, but if you can take both, there is no problem as long as you will give all the love that the cats will need from your family... I am not selling them but giving them away for good care, that is to say, for adoption. If I am not selling them, it is because I have my conditions that I would like the person who wants one of my cats or all of my cats to respect... But first, I would like to give you my adoption conditions which are: 1- Allow me to visit the cats whenever I want to see them. 2- Give me news of the cats with photos too....... 3- Give all the love they will need......... 4- Take good care of them. 5- Have you ever had this same breed before.......... 6- The babies must stay with you for their entire lives. If you agree with my conditions, you could take the kitten or both.. Here are the characteristics of my kittens.. The female is called Minette while the male is called Minou. Minette's characteristics are: She loves to run in the kitchen................ She likes to be with other pets and does not like to be ignored. She is very caring. She also loves to be very close to children.. While Minou loves to stay in the living room on the chair and watch television. He also loves to run around the yard with small children or other pets like cats.. He is very sociable and adapts quickly to a new home.. Both kittens are 12 weeks old and are vaccinated and microchipped......... I look forward to hearing from you as soon as possible, also tell me a bit about your family.... I am currently in London with my kittens because I am a tourist by profession but French by nationality. Also, tell me, do you have enough time to devote to them? To give them the necessary care they need so they don’t feel lonely as they have for the past two weeks. Are you ready to pay for their transport? Since I am currently in England..... I eagerly await your response as soon as possible.

In a second email, they sent us several photos and specified that the transport cost was 160 euros...

...you will be contacted by the company by email and by
phone with the payment details which will be at your expense, the amount of transport fees including delivery is 160 euros for one..
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1. JP
  
  The announcement in question: http://www.topannonces.fr
  
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2. Isis_84 Posted messages 5540 Registration date Status Contributor Last intervention 559
  
  Hello,
  
  "since I am a tourist by profession but French by nationality"
  
  Well, this thing is a "gem"!!! I had a hard time selecting a passage from all this completely absurd and idiotic nonsense...
  What a collection of absurdities, what gibberish...
  This idiot wants to give away his kittens to someone in France? Why, are the English not good enough??? What a fool, I swear...
  
  Well, in fact, we realize that some crooks have given up on the "I’m a Frenchman on a mission in Africa and my babies can’t stand the heat, etc., etc...."
  
  They don’t realize that their new story is even more absurd...
  
  And THAT’S ALL THE BETTER !!!!
  
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Answer 4 / 123
Fred

Good evening everyone.

Wishing for a little cat, I went for a stroll on Leboncoin, and I came across this ad:
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Answer 5 / 123
Fred

Good evening everyone.

Wanting a little cat, I went for a stroll on Leboncoin, and I came across this ad:

http://www.leboncoin.fr/vi/90797348.htm?ca=4_s

I then contacted the person, and I received the following response:

Good evening
I just read your message and thank you
Yes, I still have it
However, I am currently working outside and if you want to adopt my kitten, you will be delivered by an animal transport agency
Please reply quickly if this is acceptable to you
Best regards

I have doubts about this ad. I just sent another message to the person saying I could make the trip, I'm waiting for a response.

What do you think about all this?
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1. Pacorabanix Posted messages 4122 Registration date Status Member Last intervention 663
  
  It smells like the start of a scam ;)
  Don’t give any information that could make you have to pay (money order, credit card number, etc...)
  Besides, the rest of it is classic: you'll have to pay the so-called "animal transport company"... At first, the person may say they're covering it, but there will come a time when there will be a "problem" and you'll eventually have to pay. And of course, this company is in on it.
  
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2. nath
  
  It's a scam. Mine were Yorkshire puppies aged 8 weeks, vaccinated, tattooed, registered with the LOF, supposedly in London, and that the puppies can't cope with the climate and that their professional situation prevents them from properly taking care of their dogs, etc. The person's name is Sophie Laroche and the name of the so-called company is livraison.animaliere@gmail.com. Be careful.
  
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Answer 6 / 123
Fred

Good evening.

I just received the reply to my previous email:

I feel like you didn't understand my previous email; I am currently on French soil, so it's impossible for Grand R to come pick up the kitten as you would have liked.
Best regards

So indeed, it smells like a scam. Here is the email address and the name of the said person:

"corine bartz, rincartz@gmail.com"
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Answer 7 / 123
GRIDOU

Good evening,
like you, I was looking for a puppy, so I went on Le Bon Coin where I found one. As time goes by, I realize that many things seem off, and after reading several articles, I think it's a scam. Just like you, everything unfolded similarly for me: it was free at first and now they are asking me for €170 to retrieve the animal.
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Answer 8 / 123
leredge24

to ensure that there is no doubt
a stray kitten is indeed given among friends, colleagues, etc.
but a breed cat (Persian) or breed dog definitely has a PRICE!!
any breed cat or dog given on various classified ad sites is just a TRAP
posted by CYBERCRIMINALS from West Africa
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Answer 9 / 123
Mouchette

I received the same joke about a chihuahua but I kept all their contact information, the address and a photocopy of the delivery person's ID card as well as that of his wife.
I also filed a complaint; here is the name of the guy in Benin, MR KRATTINGER MICHAEL, 25 rue de l'église st Michel Goho, Natitingu-Benin. The delivery persons are MR BARREGE MICHEL and MME PORTE NICOLE, his wife, whose ID card photocopies I have, and the woman who GAVE her chihuahua, MME GABRIELLA HENRYZ. So if you come across an ad with this contact information, be careful, I lost a lot. BEST REGARDS
A friend who no longer wants anyone to fall into this trap.
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Answer 10 / 123
auwhell

Je suis désolé d'apprendre cela. Il est conseillé de rester vigilant et de contacter les autorités ou un professionnel pour obtenir de l'aide.
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1. varfendell Posted messages 3259 Registration date Status Member Last intervention 707
  
  consequence: identity theft. Your data will join the massive database that contains the information of a multitude of people who, like you, have fallen for this little game. This data is then used to construct other scams.
  
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Answer 11 / 123
mimine

It's crazy anyway!!! He changes his name but doesn't change the ad which is almost identical and also uses the same arguments about West Africa!!!
I'm sure some people got tricked, it's silly to be unable to do anything about it!!!

Beware of any 3-month-old Persian cat that comes from Africa! lol
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1. Anonymous user
  
  No, we can't do nothing!
  start with this: Petition
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  PLEASE, MENTION THE EMAIL ADDRESSES AND PHONE NUMBERS OF THESE SCAMMERS
  We will make good use of them (Blacklists)
  
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Isis_84 Posted messages 5540 Registration date Status Contributor Last intervention 559

Hello Paradyxia,

Clearly a scam. They will ask you for money, making you believe that they have already sent the kitten (to play with your emotions).

However, this forum is no longer suitable for your request.

To get answers to your questions, it is better to turn to a more specialized forum where these topics are commonly addressed, like the one from Aven France, for example.

Have a good day.
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Answer 13 / 123
leredge24

Good evening
I would like to intervene regarding Cedric Nael's last message
because I am horrified when he asks to "stop your lies"
because everything that is said on this forum is the pure reality of what is happening on the internet
either you are a scammer yourself or you are very poorly informed about scams on the internet
best regards
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Answer 14 / 123
leredge24

Good evening
I am joining your forum because I am also very concerned about an ad for the donation of a 3-month-old kitten (Persian chinchilla cat) http://www.annonce-animaux.fr/annonce-chien/chien-a-donner/jolie-bebe-chaton-persan-de-03-mois-femelle-2-19-01-2010.html
I also received the same email but signed by Madame Lauquin Delphine; an employee of
UNAIDS, having serious doubts about this email, I did a small search online using keywords and came across your forum which confirms the SCAM. What raised my suspicions is that a friend received a similar kind of response but with an ad for a backhoe which was also located in Africa and where he was asked for a sum of money for transportation, as if all means are good for unscrupulous people to profit.
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1. Pacorabanix Posted messages 4122 Registration date Status Member Last intervention 663
  
  It's regrettable, yes.
  
  In general: announcements of things for sale/giving away/etc. from Africa -> 99% scam
  
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2. nath
  
  I came not from Africa but from London, but the biggest thing is that the so-called company is based in Cameroon and that the shit had to go through Belgium. Be very careful.
  
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Answer 15 / 123
leredge24

Hello
I'm back on the forum and the only question we can ask is how can classifieds websites allow such aberrations to slip through!
For example, if you post an ad on leboncoin, it will be published on the site after review and approval by an administrator, but how many times have I found fake ads and reported them? It is known that cybercrime is constantly increasing on the internet.
In Ivory Coast, cybercriminals defrauded nearly 158 billion euros in 2007, a significant increase compared to the figures from 2003, which were barely 20 billion euros.
Following the dispute I had with a scammer, I created a slideshow explaining how to avoid traps and not fall into the hands of these scammers, to be shared via messaging with your friends because I believe that the only way to combat cybercrime on the internet is through information.
You can request this slideshow at this address
stop.arnaque.internet@gmail.com

Best regards.
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1. zette4
  
  Hello,
  
  In line with this forum, I would like to point out yet another scam on TOP ANNONCES: a lovely merle Chihuahua for adoption, conveniently located in West Africa with employees of UNAIDS, to be delivered for €95: it seems to work every time. I have reported the scam to the site and I'm informing you on this forum where I logged in by following the link from the so-called animal transport service...
  WARNING TO EVERYONE.
  
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2. Pacorabanix Posted messages 4122 Registration date Status Member Last intervention 663
  
  report as much as possible at https://www.internet-signalement.gouv.fr/PortailWeb/planets/Accueil!input.action
  
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Answer 16 / 123
sabrinalilie

Well, I have the same problem, except that I'm being asked for 300 euros to have a car delivered without a license, supposedly offered by Ms. Patricia Divas because she works for UNICEF in Africa.
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1. popples
  
  Good evening,
  
  We have the same concern! We advertised our dog for mating on the site "le bon coin" and received the same email as the first person, explaining that she has a 3-month-old puppy waiting in a kennel and is asking for 95 euros for transportation!!
  Reply that you are not fooled! In any case, that is what we are going to do!
  
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Answer 17 / 123
leredge24

Good evening
yes, indeed, right now leboncoin is a target for scammers
I just spotted a fake ad for chinchilla chat

don't hesitate to report fake ads by sending a message to the site, which will remove it

best regards
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Answer 18 / 123
amel94

SCAM!!!!!
I responded to the same ad for the same kitten, and I received exactly the same email, except that for me, she is called Juliette VOULET...
It's crazy, and this is the second ad where they mention an animal transport agency, there was another one that really raised my suspicions, with a fake email from the so-called transport agency...
We really need to be careful!
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Answer 19 / 123
leredge24

Better and better, and nothing deflates it. Now I have been summoned before a court (surely a ghost court like the little cat) for defamation against a high official.
Here’s a copy-paste of our emails

My response following the first message that you can read at the top of the forum
Good evening
Thank you for your prompt response
However, I regret to inform you that I cannot take your little cat, even though I was ready to welcome it into my family, especially as I am very familiar with Persian cats.
The reason for my refusal is that I find it very risky to transport a young cat for more than 12 hours in the hold of an airplane, and also be aware that this cat will be taken care of by customs upon its arrival on French soil and will be euthanized at the slightest doubt (origin, vaccination not up to date, etc.).
I live in the southwest of France, and I was ready to make the trip considering the ad was posted in the Hérault department, and I am very eager for your response.

I am sorry for this refusal, and I hope you understand my guilt if I had said yes and something went wrong.

Best regards, Régis G

Response from the so-called giver
Hello,
I have just read your message, thank you for your reply.
You should know that the delivery to your home takes 8 hours, and there is no risk involved since the animal transport agency is a renowned transport company, and they know how to deliver to you in very good conditions. You should also know that I will cover all other expenses, and you will only have to pay for the transport costs, including the delivery to your home. So if you are still interested in saving the life of my Persian baby kitten, please let me know as soon as possible so that I can know what arrangements I need to make.
Looking forward to hearing from you urgently.
Best regards

My response
The problem is this
https://forums.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-15968219-arnaque-chaton-agence-de-transport-animaliere#2010-01-22%2021%3A25%3A59
How can you expect me to believe that your ad is credible given that other people have also been cheated?
I find it despicable on your part to take advantage of the life of a so-called little animal to scam honest people.
Believe me, I will do everything in my power to STOP your scam.

Response from the so-called giver
You are really dishonest; otherwise, how can you address a prominent personality to send your insults? I am suing you for defamation against myself. You haven't seen anything yet.
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leredge24

Hello
no doubt it's another scam!!!!
the wording changes but the principle remains the same
animal supposedly coming from a foreign country sent by an animal agency
email ending with @gmail.com very easy to create a mailbox using this provider while remaining completely invisible impossible to trace its creator same for @yahoo @hotmail etc.
best regards
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1. marmotte
  
  I read the same ad except for the names Lidvine and Son. What a pity. I had a doubt, but now with everything I just read, the doubt is gone. Just in case, I'm still looking for a kitten, thank you all.
  
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2. Pacorabanix Posted messages 4122 Registration date Status Member Last intervention 663 > marmotte
  
  So don't hesitate to contact your local SPA shelter, there is certainly one! Additionally, you will spare already born kittens from unfortunately living in cages.
  
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3. cathy > marmotte
  
  I received the same announcement, her name is Ludivine, it's a scam, and it's not the first one I've seen. Everything that comes from abroad or that requires a Western Union transfer is a scam. You have to be very careful...
  
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4. Pacorabanix Posted messages 4122 Registration date Status Member Last intervention 663 > cathy
  
  Yes, the Western Union transfer is a very good criterion. Western Union specifically prohibits making purchases through this means, and there's a reason for that...
  
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5. cathy > Pacorabanix Posted messages 4122 Registration date Status Member Last intervention
  
  Yes, absolutely, Western Union, you should never make a transfer, otherwise, there are also those who ask for a phone top-up to be able to contact us, but this is also a scam. Everything that is on the site top annonces rijiji or others are scams. But I find it shameful that people do this, many people can fall into the trap...
  
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Kitten scam pet transport agency

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