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kirua-93 Posted messages 652 Status Member -  
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Hello,
I just discovered a website that sells various computer products at low prices and I was wondering if anyone has ordered from them because I would be afraid it might be a scam.
Here is the site

https://www.cedepic.com

Thank you for your replies
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14 answers

  1. Pat44
     
    Hello, I bought over 600 DVDs from CDFolie over 4 years. I had an issue with only 1 DVD. I definitely plan to buy from them again this year.
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  2. Jean Messager45
     
    Hello

    Cdfolie, it's crazy if there's a problem because the commercial side is really not the best of the best. I bought 100 Mediarange DVD DL, and after several tries, it fails at 30% of the burning process. According to Cdfolie, it's my burner that needs an update, which has been done, but it still fails. I tried it with 2 laptops and got the same result.
    CDFOLIE only takes back and exchanges if we return some media and if their tests show it's not good, they will exchange it.
    They told me they sell thousands and that I'm the only one complaining and raising issues, but from what I've seen on forums, that's not the case. In any case, this was my first and last order with Cdfolie. There are other sites that are much more customer-friendly.
    See you soon.
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    1. redbud
       
      Same for us, we ordered CDs that were cheap and delivered quickly but unusable!!!!

      Our reaction was therefore to ask CD Folie to take back their material and there

      guess what, we are told that this is not possible since they are the best products in the world, that it is probably the fault of our devices, that we must return them at our expense to a POSTE RESTANTE WITHOUT SIGNATURE so that their IT engineers can do tests and that it is only if they decide that the product is defective that they will reimburse us. THE HORROR SCENARIO, we think this only happens on TV.

      Read our exchanges of correspondence with these crooks:
      Hello,

      as already mentioned in our email exchanges, you need to return 2 or 3 blank CDs to allow us to test them and declare them defective.

      Here is the return procedure for testing:


      we invite you to return 2 or 3 blank CDs/DVDs (PLEASE SIGN THE UNRECORDABLE SIDE OF THE RETURNED CDs OR DVDs) with a request for testing letter (in a bubble envelope) to this address:

      CD Rohling-up GmbH
      Poste restante
      F-57350 Stiring Wendel CC (France)


      Our IT department will evaluate the product on 3 different devices and the results will be communicated to you.

      If the media shows any defect, we will fully reimburse you for the (CD) DVDs, including return costs. (attach postal invoice)

      If the results communicated by our IT department indicate proper functioning, we will not proceed with any reimbursement or return.

      I remain at your disposal for any further information.

      best regards
      Claire CHASSEUR-DANIEL
      Customer Service Manager

      The entire CDfolie team thanks you for your trust.



      From: World Music Prod [mailto:worldmusicproduction@gmail.com]
      Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 07:33
      To: Contact France
      Subject: [Fwd: Re: AW: CDfolie] - demand for return of defective CDs - final reminder

      Dear Sir/Madam,

      We are still waiting for the return of the defective CDs you delivered to us. Without a response from you within eight days, we will ask our legal insurer to have the CDs examined by an independent laboratory, at your expense.

      Furthermore, we will not hesitate to comment on the quality of your products and your customer service on the relevant internet forums.

      Sincerely.

      Gérald Lomé
      Administrative and Financial Service Manager
      Subject: Re: AW: CDfolie
      Date: Mon, Sep 14, 2009 15:53:03 +0200
      From: World Music Prod
      To: contact@cdfolie.com
      References: <EC74291726310A42B9CA16BD8D91CE2D29B04DB1@SRV-SBS-01.CDfolie.local>


      Madam,

      WE'VE HAD ENOUGH OF READING YOUR STORIES. ENGINEERS TO TEST CDs?
      Brands like FNAC, VIRGIN, OFFICE DEPOT don’t make such statements, so stop taking people for fools. Our player reads all the other CDs, why not yours? Once again, what your other customers think is completely irrelevant to us. We are not satisfied with your products. Since this is an essential work tool for us, our interest would have been to be able to use them like we do with your competitors’ products purchased an hour ago, which would have spared us this loss of time and money. No need to continue down the path of bad faith. We will not let you continue to abuse our trust.

      Gérald Lomé

      Administrative and Financial Service Manager





      contact@cdfolie.com wrote:
      > Hello again,
      >
      > sorry but we cannot reimburse based on the client's statements, we must test the CDs before reimbursement, the tests are carried out by our engineers, and if they are defective we will reimburse you as well as the return costs.
      >
      > In the case where the CD poses no problem in burning but only in reading, it means that the issue comes from an incompatibility with your player, have you tried to read them on your PC??
      >
      > We have been in the market for 6 years so it is not in our interest to say that CDs work if they are defective.
      >
      > Without a return from you for testing, we will not be able to issue any reimbursement.
      >
      > I remain at your disposal for any further information.
      >
      > best regards
      > Claire CHASSEUR-DANIEL
      > Customer Service Manager
      >
      > The entire CDfolie team thanks you for your trust.
      >
      >
      > From: World Music Prod
      > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 15:28
      > To: Contact France
      > Subject: Re: CDfolie
      >
      > Madam,
      >
      > I think you did not understand correctly. On the one hand, it's not DVDs but CDs we're talking about. On the other hand, we burn the same files on CDs from other brands and suppliers without difficulty. The problem we are encountering is therefore not a burning issue but a reading issue of the CDs which, once burned, are not recognized by a CD player.
      >
      > So IT IS NOT OUR EQUIPMENT THAT IS AT FAULT BUT YOUR PRODUCTS. We have verified that the CDs we ordered are compatible with our equipment. Moreover, we do not encounter this problem with blank CDs from other suppliers with the same technical characteristics as your products. (see attached invoice for CDs purchased today that provide complete satisfaction). We tested several CDs from the 2 packs you delivered to us: they are all defective. Given your responses, WE DON’T TRUST YOUR TESTS, especially since we have to return the CDs to an address "poste restante in colissimo without signature". THIS SIMPLY IS NOT SERIOUS. WE ARE NOT SATISFIED WITH YOUR PRODUCTS AND EVEN LESS WITH YOUR ANTI-COMMERCIAL APPROACH. WE THEREFORE DEMAND A REFUND AS OFFERED BY YOUR COMPETITORS WHO AT LEAST HAVE A SENSE OF CUSTOMER SERVICE. THE CDS ARE AT YOUR DISPOSAL.
      > Without a response from you within eight days, we promise to widely disseminate the exchanges we have had with your customer service (?) on the Internet.
      >
      > Best regards.
      >
      > Gérald Lomé
      >
      > Administrative and Financial Service Manager

      >> Hello,
      >>
      >> Sorry but it is our procedure, it is not in our interest to sell defective merchandise......
      >>
      >> To allow us to reimburse the DVDs, you need to return 3 blank DVDs to allow us to test them and confirm they are defective, we cannot reimburse based on the client's statements because in that case our supplier does not reimburse us.
      >>
      >>
      >> If the CDs/DVDs are not defective, we can only take back the merchandise intact in its original packaging and refund you the market value because we are not responsible in case of incompatibility between the media/burner.
      >>
      >> ARTICLE 5 - SATISFIED OR REFUNDED
      >> The customer is responsible for ensuring the compatibility of their purchases with their equipment.
      >>
      >>
      >> We invite you to return 2 or 3 blank CDs/DVDs (PLEASE SIGN THE UNRECORDABLE SIDE OF THE RETURNED CDs OR DVDs) with a request for testing letter (in a bubble envelope) to this address in colissimo distribution without signature:
      >>
      >> CD Rohling-up GmbH
      >> Poste restante
      >> F-57350 Stiring Wendel CC (France)
      >>
      >>
      >> Our IT department will evaluate the product on 3 different devices and the results will be communicated to you.
      >>
      >> If the media shows any defect, we will fully reimburse you for the (CD) DVDs, including return costs. (attach postal invoice).
      >>
      >> If the results communicated by our IT department indicate proper functioning, we will not proceed with any reimbursement or return.
      >>
      >> I remain at your disposal for any further information.
      >>
      >> best regards
      >> Claire CHASSEUR-DANIEL
      >> Customer Service Manager
      >>
      >> The entire CDfolie team thanks you for your trust.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> From: World Music Prod
      >> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:36
      >> To: Contact France
      >> Subject: Re: Our order No. 947714 of 29/07/2009
      >>
      >> Hello,
      >>
      >> Your response is unacceptable!
      >> We don't care that you sell thousands of this type of product without issue. We purchased from you 2 x 25 CDs to burn files that we burn in series with the same reader on other media without encountering any difficulties, whether in burning or reading. For your information, we work under Vista so we strongly doubt that the reason for our difficulties lies in the firmware.
      >> We tested 3 CDs from the 2 batches: none work on our player. The problem must therefore necessarily stem from your products! Receiving a defective product by mail is unthinkable, especially CDs! We therefore wish for your carrier to come and collect them and to be reimbursed for the entirety of our order. You are free to reuse them if they turn out to be non-defective. In case of refusal on your part, we will not fail to disseminate your response on all the internet sites concerned by the sale of your products; we doubt that this will boost your sales!
      >>
      >> Best regards.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> On September 14, 2009 08:11, <contact@cdfolie.com> wrote:
      >>
      >> Hello,
      >>
      >> We are sorry for the problems you are encountering.
      >>
      >> We sell this item by the thousands without any other complaint than yours. It could therefore be a compatibility issue between burner/player and media.
      >>
      >> CDs/DVDs of the same brand may come from different factories and thus carry media codes unique to each factory.
      >>
      >> We invite you to check the specifications of your burner/player and to perform a firmware update. The
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      1. r@ptor > redbud
         
        Good evening,

        The "cheap" is always too expensive...
        Stop buying crappy CDs, and go for Verbatim or Traxdata instead.
        I've never had a single burning issue with these two brands... and I'm not a beginner...

        Catch you later!
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    2. tof
       
      I have been ordering from cdfolie for years, no problems even with mediarange, your equipment is outdated, and moreover, the delivery is fast, within 12 hours and to my home, I am a merchant and I know what I'm talking about.
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    3. margoule
       
      Good evening, I had a problem with the delivery, they sent me a new package because the first one was completely destroyed, and one CD tower was missing; they are refusing to refund me, it’s a disgrace.
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    4. ben
       
      Hello
      To report a big scam: "CD folie" sells CDs that can be burned but not read.
      They explain to us that it's normal. !!! Beware everyone.

      Best regards
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  3. Ricoto Posted messages 37 Status Member 31
     
    I regularly order from them too, even no-name CDs and DVDs, and I'm very happy with them.
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    1. GGuy
       
      I have been a customer of CD-Folie for over two years. I am very satisfied with both the speed of delivery and the quality of its products.
      In addition to external hard drives and various purchases, I ordered very large quantities of DVD-Rs for my two Sony DVD burners. I record television programs in VR mode, which allows me to edit: "Divide," "delete from A to B." These DVDs I purchased give me complete satisfaction, regardless of the brand: Mediarange, Platinium, Emtec, Philips... (the percentage of defective DVDs is very much below the tolerance threshold generally accepted by DVD manufacturers).
      It is to express my COMPLETE satisfaction that I am writing this comment. I highly recommend this site.
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  4. Pomme
     
    Good evening,

    A little post because apparently the response from CDfolie must be a so-called "robotic" reply.

    We are still in 2014, and nothing has changed

    Indeed, I bought 2 packs of Verbatim DVD+R discs to record TV shows or movies on a home recorder when I can't watch them.

    The problem is that I can only read the DVDs recorded by my home player on that same player. My 2 DVD players and my 2 computers (laptop and desktop) cannot read them.

    You might say it’s a problem with my home player, but it works very well with other DVD+R, DVD-R, DVD+RW, or DVD-RW discs: recorded with the home player and read on all players.

    I then sent an email to CDfolie, here is what it says (I copied and pasted it);

    Message:
    Hello,

    I placed an order for 2 packs of 100 DVDs for a total of 68.40 euros.
    I have a Kingvision brand home recorder, and I record TV shows or movies.
    This morning, I wanted to watch a show that I recorded last night at my daughter-in-law’s house.
    It was impossible to read it.
    Back home, it was the same on both DVD players, as well as on my 2 computers (desktop and laptop).
    I took all the DVDs I bought from you that were recorded with the home player, and the same thing happened: impossible to read them except on the home recorder.
    I thought there was a problem with the home recorder, but recording with other DVD+R or -R and DVD+RW or -RW works with all players.
    Only your DVDs work only with the home recorder, where I recorded them.
    Are your DVDs defective? And how can I watch what I have already recorded (more than 100 DVDs) on all my players?
    Because if the home recorder breaks down, how would I be able to read the recorded DVDs???
    That’s nearly 70 euros wasted

    Thank you for your response.

    Have a nice day.

    Best regards


    And here is their response (ALREADY SEEN):

    Hello,

    We are sorry for the problems you are encountering.

    We sell this item by the thousands without any other complaints than yours. There could be an incompatibility between the recorder/player and the media.

    CD/DVDs of the same brand may come from different factories and therefore have media codes specific to each factory.

    We invite you to check the specifications of your recorder/player and to update your firmware. Almost all customers have been able to resolve their problems in this way.

    Thank you for your trust

    Customer Service


    So excuse me for being ignorant, but this response is always the same, so I wonder where the positive messages come from here, as a friend pointed out to me, it might be that the people from CDfolie are posting them, and I think he is right

    So for me, these DVDs must be of Chinese manufacture with very questionable quality, and given the low cost, the markup must be substantial.

    I spent nearly 70 euros, but there will be no more from me, nor for those who ask me, because I have to say, I work in computer repair, and I will not give them good publicity.

    I will respond by including the link to this site (but they already know it)

    CDFOLIES site rating: 0/20

    Friendship to all.

    Ps: Furthermore, they contradict themselves, because on one hand, they say that they only have my complaint, and on the other, they specify that almost all customers have been able to resolve the problem encountered in this way, so these customers have indeed submitted complaints.

    But who are they messing with ..............................
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  5. bab38
     
    You can order without any problem. Personally, I've been using them for 2 years.
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  6. kirua-93 Posted messages 652 Status Member 72
     
    Thank you for your advice
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    Please mark your topics as resolved after I’ve been through them..................^^
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  7. Furyo91
     
    About 6 years that I've been ordering from them without any issues and fast shipping
    but yes, I only take verbatim ^^
    afterwards with the sub-brands, you shouldn't expect miracles
    ++
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  8. kirua-93 Posted messages 652 Status Member 72
     
    Okay, thanks friend!
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    Please mark your topics as resolved after I’m done...............^^
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    1. bob42
       
      No problem, that's fine, you can go ahead. A+ you also have this one with more articles
      www.nierle.com
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    2. bob42
       
      No problem, that's correct, you can go ahead. A+ You also have this one with more articles
      www.nierle.com
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      1. miguel 51 > bob42
         
        this one is cheaper than cdfolies and than nierle it's DAMROTECH.com
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    3. Marie
       
      I have ordered several times from Nierle and there is a lot of delay!!!!
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  9. bones
     
    hello I've been getting CDs and DVDs from them for years, never had any problems.
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  10. micfit Posted messages 4 Status Member
     
    Hello,

    I’m coming to this forum following a “setback” with the media provided by cdfolies, but especially due to their commercial reaction, and I won't be there (it's too bad!) without this which is why I’ve thought about bones!

    I read:

    bones January 21, 2012 at 09:58
    hello it's been years since I've been getting CDs and DVDs from them, no problem ever

    At 9:58, bones is surely at work at cdfolies!?

    First observation:
    The post from “Jean Messager45 March 23, 2009”

    ... we are in 2012 and here are the facts concerning me, and the "explicit" letter sent to cdfolies and their response, it’s enlightening to see it 3 years apart:

    Hello,

    You delivered to me (as a new supplier) on 300811 3 packs of

    100 DVDs:
    Invoice No. ------------ dated 29/08/2011

    1/ +R-MED-16X-B/100
    2/ +R-MMM-8X-DL-B/100
    3/ +R-XLAYER-16X-P-B/100

    Upon use on Benq/Qsuite control recorder:
    (5% of failures (maximum) with my previous suppliers/brands!)

    1/ +R-MED-16X-B/100:
    5% usable at 16X, 50% at 8X, 30% at 4X, waste for the rest 15%

    HUGE!
    (Rounded for 63 DVDs/100!)

    2/ +R-MMM-8X-DL-B/100:
    None usable at 8X!!!, 10% at 4%!!!, 15% at 2.4, the rest waste that is

    75%!!!!?
    (rounded for 22 DL DVDs)
    It's not HUGE it's unacceptable!

    Some would say: fraud!
    Until I read you, I considered it an accident.
    I await your conclusion.
    Best regards,
    (micfit)

    The response from cdfolies to be compared with the post of “Jean Messager45”:

    Hello,

    We are sorry for the problems you are encountering.

    We sell this item by the thousands without any other complaint than yours. It could therefore be a compatibility issue between recorder/player and media.

    CD/DVDs of the same brand can come from different factories and

    therefore have media codes unique to each factory.

    We invite you to check the indications of your recorder/player and

    to update your firmware. Almost all clients have been able to solve the encountered problem this way.

    If you are convinced that these (CD) DVDs have a defect, we invite you to return 2 or 3 (CD) DVDs blank in

    a bubble envelope via Colissimo delivery without signature THANK YOU FOR

    SIGNING THE UNRECORDABLE SIDE OF THE RETURNED CD OR DVD

    with a request letter for testing in a bubble envelope to the address

    :

    CD Rohling-up GmbH
    Remaining mail
    F-57350 Stiring Wendel CC
    (France)

    Our IT department will evaluate the product on

    3 different devices and the results will be communicated to you.

    If the media shows any defect we will refund you

    the (CD) DVDs in full, return costs included.

    If the result communicated by our IT service indicates proper functioning, we will not proceed with any refund or

    return.

    ...Well, dear customer: I take you for a ...!

    Since then, I have tested the media in question on 5 different recorders, including

    two very recent machines at the top level. Identical or worse results, the so-called "16X" DVDs manage at best at 8X ...or are refused

    by the recorder!

    I am still waiting for cdfolies to communicate the reference of their "control" recorders ...but most importantly, that they indicate them as

    mandatory for burning their media! (this is part of my response to

    quote here)

    A competing site where I also shop and will continue to

    did react very differently: ... for only 3% loss,

    a credit of 25% of the lot plus the defective!

    The difference between a merchant "not like Tof who is probably

    the only one not having problems with CDs/DVDs" and ...I'll let you

    judge cdfolies after reading their response ...and make your

    purchases accordingly.

    micfit
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    1. Arbaretan
       
      I do not recommend this site because after ordering DVDs, one out of two "crashes" during recording, and this happens on three different burners that worked fine with Philips or Verbatim products.
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  11. Bru
     
    Hello and a big THANK YOU for your numerous testimonies regarding the "seriousness" of cdfolie.com! ...because I was planning to buy from them.

    All the victims should come together to form a committee against this company (through a petition and/or other means) because we must not let such businesses continue to scam customers.

    Good luck to you and thank you again!
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    1. cath
       
      Hello,

      CDFOLIE is a good serious and especially high-quality series! I have been a customer since 2005 with my business and enjoy many advantages!
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  12. NICKY
     
    Hello
    Personally, I always order my DVDs from CDFOLIE and so far, I have never had any problems.
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  13. REZ
     
    Hello,
    I have been a customer of cdfolie for 10 years and I am satisfied with the CDs and DVDs purchased, regardless of the brand. However, for the past 2 years, I have had an issue with the poorly managed parcel tracking by cdfolie. The company relies on the carrier GLS for delivery. It assigns a tracking number to the customer. This number is not recognized on the GLS tracking website because the carrier assigns a different number to the parcels it needs to deliver. This GLS number is the only one recognized on the tracking site, but the problem is that the customer is not aware of this number and therefore cannot know when the delivery will take place. It is very unpleasant to be stuck at home for several days waiting for a hypothetical delivery. The prices of cdfolie are appealing, but in case of problems, do not expect satisfactory responses to your complaints. Cdfolie leads its customers on, you have to accept it or look elsewhere. In my case, for the next order I will request shipping via colissimo; it’s more expensive and the delivery is longer, but the parcel tracking is more reliable.
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    1. REZ
       
      I'm back because I now know that the carrier GLS was reliable; I was delivered on time, and the regional manager at GLS took the time to explain the functioning of the parcel tracking system to me. It's the company Cdfolie that lacks competence in managing shipments. As soon as the parcel is handed over to the carrier, they must provide the customer with two numbers for the parcel: one number from Cdfolie and a specific alphanumeric tracking number. Cdfolie gave me the first number, but not the second one. HOWEVER, it is this second parcel number that is the only one recognized by the GLS online tracking site. Cdfolie's explanations are always vague... IT IS CLEAR THAT CDFOLIE DISREGARDS ITS CUSTOMERS. I will be looking for another supplier.
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    2. Marie
       
      The tracking numbers are transmitted by GLS to the companies, so the problem comes from GLS ;)
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  14. barou24
     
    On February 14, 2015, I ordered from cdfolie 1 pack of 100 Verbatim 16x DVD-Rs and I couldn't even use a third of them because it was impossible to record on my Sony burner. I also ordered a lot of 100 MediaRange cases, 25 of which were broken; I emailed them and cdfolie refunded me for those. As for the DVDs, no refund, just like Jean Messager 45. So that's it for cdfolie; I won't be placing any more orders with them. It's pure and simple fraud. Furthermore, the cases were really of poor quality, broken in the packaging box, which was intact. Giving them 57 euros, no way!!!
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    1. Leth
       
      For your information, apparently cdfolies is going bankrupt.
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