High School Studies, Baccalaureate... Graphic Design - Page 2

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  1. sab
     
    Hello
    Isn't it difficult to join a BTS or another program after a vocational high school diploma?
    Another question: how many years does a STI take?
    Best regards.
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    1. Le queniau Posted messages 7766 Status Contributor 2 015
       
      The transition from a professional baccalaureate (bac pro) to a BTS is always very difficult, especially in the so-called general subjects. Therefore, you need to have an excellent record in bac pro and a solid foundation (in French, math...) and a lot of determination to succeed. Furthermore, it is important to know that in applied arts fields in BTS, there are no recruitment issues with students coming from STI bac and preparatory sections (for those coming from different bac). Consequently, there are not many places reserved for bac pro students unless you have an excellent portfolio and access to the BTS is through a final interview (as was the case for major applied arts schools in Paris at one time). The STI bac is completed in three years like all other bac. It is a so-called technical bac because there are many hours dedicated to art and applied arts, but the general education level is the same as that of many other bac. For example, in Visual Communication BTS, it was enough to deepen a few parts of the math program to reach practically the level of a Math Sup student!
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  2. vinjull
     
    Pour devenir designer automobile, il est généralement recommandé de suivre une formation en design industriel ou en design de transport. Il serait donc judicieux d'obtenir un baccalauréat dans l'un des domaines suivants :

    1. Bac S (Scientifique) : pour une base solide en sciences.
    2. Bac STI2D (Sciences et Technologies de l'Industrie et du Développement Durable) : orienté vers les technologies industrielles.
    3. Bac STD2A (Sciences et Technologies du Design et des Arts Appliqués) : axé sur le design et les arts.

    Après le bac, des écoles de design ou des universités spécialisées offrent des programmes spécifiques en design automobile. Vous pouvez également envisager un cursus en arts appliqués.

    N'hésitez pas à vous renseigner sur les écoles qui proposent des diplômes reconnus dans le milieu du design automobile.

    Je vous souhaite bonne chance dans votre orientation professionnelle !
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  3. Line
     
    Hello
    my name is Line and I am more into drawing, but I don't really like computer stuff. The diploma I should pursue is indeed STI Applied Arts, right?
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    1. Le queniau Posted messages 7766 Status Contributor 2 015
       
      Yes, because the STI BAC not only develops IT tools but all graphic techniques. However, in some courses you will be required to use graphics, particularly for layout, but this is likely to be more of an approach as it is in the BTS program that one perfects these skills.
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      1. Line > Le queniau Posted messages 7766 Status Contributor
         
        Thank you very much!


        Line
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  4. tof
     
    Hello everyone, I have a problem, let me explain: I am in a second year audiovisual LV2, etc... And I want to take a technological baccalaureate with an option in applied arts! But I don't know what profile is needed, I have good grades in scientific subjects but in literature I am close to average, even a bit below, so I don't know what to do, please help me!
    Thank you
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  5. sarah
     
    Hello everyone, I have a problem. I would like to pursue studies in design, but my high school only offers STI in electrotechnics and mechanical engineering. So, is it possible to consider continuing my studies in this field with a bac in STI electrotechnics? Thank you for responding, as I need to make a decision quickly.
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  6. futur businessman
     
    Hello, I am an African with a bachelor's degree +1 looking for a scholarship for countries like Canada and others.

    It is with immense patience and confidence that I kindly ask you to send me any information and details regarding the scholarships, if possible.
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  7. Sympatman
     
    Hello,
    I am in my first year of applied arts (STI) and I am looking for a school that would allow me to work in special effects (a school like Artfx) located in Canada.

    P.S.: If you could give me a list of all the schools that allow me to study this kind of field in Canada, I would be extremely grateful.

    Thank you in advance if you can respond.
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  8. Hasu
     
    So to be fully oriented towards 3D creation in video games, I should choose a STI Applied Arts program, then continue with a BTS and finally the ENJMIN, if I understood correctly?!

    The only problem is that according to my information, the Lycée des Pierres Vives only offers the STI Electronic Engineering Bac :S.
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  9. Hasu
     
    For the information, it is indeed the Programming part that attracts me. Working in video games as a programmer is what has allowed me to hold on to my studies for a long time ^^! In this specific case, do you think that the STI electronic engineering BAC would be more suitable for my situation as a "programmer"?

    Thank you

    Hasu
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  10. Hasu
     
    Hello everyone,
    I'm posting this second message to inform you of one of my discoveries.
    To become a designer or a job in that field (in creation), you need to do a BAC STI in applied arts as we saw previously. But here's the thing: in the branch I want to pursue (video game programmer in a company like Microsoft or Ubisoft for example), according to this link http://www.kamron.net/french/prog/gameprogrammeur.php, a BAC S followed by an IUT in Computer Science (Bac+2) is not recommended.

    To pursue my path as a programmer at Microsoft, should I take the BAC S + IUT Info route, or should I stick with my BAC STI + BTS Info position?

    Thank you

    Hasu
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  11. Hasu
     
    By researching several websites and calling several companies, I have just secured my path.
    A BAC STI Applied Arts + a BTS Audiovisual + Higher Schools of Arts.

    Thanks to Le queniau for the valuable information ^^.

    PS: if I have any further questions, I will post them in this Topic!
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    1. Le queniau Posted messages 7766 Status Contributor 2 015
       
      BTS Audiovisuel is very focused on audiovisual production professions, meaning shooting and sound recording on set, framing, lighting adjustment..., and editing! At the Lycée des Arènes in Toulouse, there was an audiovisual studio practically better equipped than FR3 Toulouse, even more so with a studio and a control room! I therefore doubt this is the best option for you. As you read in the description of your game school, there are several options. The visual communication option will be more suited for applied arts profiles, the sound and audio option is more for audiovisual profiles, and the programming option is rather for IT profiles. I knew someone who went through this kind of path in Nice and was more of a programmer, who after graduating worked in a car alarm company where he programmed anti-theft systems using satellite surveillance. I think it would be more beneficial for you to look into IT fields rather than electronics.
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  12. boups11 Posted messages 241 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   38
     
    Good luck for the entrance to the audiovisual BTS ;))
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  13. Hasu
     
    Bonjour, en fait je me posais une question : L'infographie est-elle praticable si la moyenne d'arts plastiques est mauvaise ? Je dis ça car je ne suis pas spécialiste en dessin, je n'ai jamais pris de cours de dessin (et avec le prof que j'ai au collège, on peut dire que même à l'école je n'ai pas de cours de dessin). Au début, je pensais que des GRAPHISTES faisaient les dessins et que les INFOGRAPHISTES les animaient... etc. Donc, étant donné que je suis nul (en ce moment tout du moins) en dessin, en choisissant l'option arts appliqués au BAC STI et tout au long de mes années de lycée, cela sera-t-il un poids ou m'apprendra-t-on justement les bases puis des choses de plus en plus dures comme un personnage vu de tous les angles (comme si je n'avais jamais dessiné de ma vie :D) ?

    Merci bien pour les moyennes Arza ^^

    Hasu
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    1. Le queniau Posted messages 7766 Status Contributor 2 015
       
      The problem is that given your average in art, you might not be accepted from the start. However, if you do get accepted, you might take the place of someone who was probably more interested in graphic design than you, considering the number of places available per academy. Lastly, if you're not passionate about drawing from the start, you're likely to struggle during these three years because drawing, with its many options, is still the foundation of the STI Applied Arts BAC. In your case, I would try to find out about the path to follow for a more computer-oriented (rather than electronic) and programming-focused goal!
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  14. Hasu
     
    If I am leaning towards a BAC STI Applied Arts, it's because a graphic designer explains on https://www.oriane.info that he got this job with a BAC STI Applied Arts followed by a BTS visual communication option multimedia (and continuing with art schools (BAC+5)).
    Do you think this is not the right path to take? (if not, what should I do? I'm lost :S and I have very little time left to find the right high school)!
    Let's agree, I don't want to be a draftsman but an image animator (graphic designer) in the video game industry!!

    PS: If any of you have the number of a large French video game company like Microsoft or Ubisoft, that could interest me to call and ask a graphic designer about which path to take.

    Thank you
    Hasu (completely lost :'( )
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  15. Le queniau Posted messages 7766 Status Contributor 2 015
     
    Try to quickly make an appointment with a guidance counselor or a CIO center. Otherwise, in my city, there is the company that created the Dofus game website: http://www.ankama-web.com/?lang=en. You can always try calling or sending an email to get in touch with a Dofus graphic designer. Soon there will be open house days at high schools. Try to visit the high schools offering the STI applied arts program near you!
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  16. flospike
     
    I am currently at the Lycée des Pierres Vives and I want to do the same thing as you, but definitely don't go into STI at Pierres Vives because it's electronic engineering, nothing to do with multimedia or graphic design. I advise you to find a good high school in the STI Applied Arts section; otherwise, you'll have to do a year of catch-up in graphic prep to get back to level!!!
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  17. Hasu
     
    Hello everyone!
    Thank you for your valuable advice, Flospike... following Queniau's recommendations, I went to see a guidance counselor who told me that a BAQ STI was not at all mandatory and that, on the contrary, a BAQ S would allow me to enter programs after the BAQ, like DUTs, much more easily! So I will be going to Evariste Galois High School to get a BAQ S, and then I'll pursue a DUT (but I have time to choose which one and to see a guidance counselor again to find out which one to choose).
    One question still remains: I was told that to be a graphic designer, you need to know how to draw very well because the job of a graphic designer is to draw and then animate their own drawings. However, in making-ofs of video games like "Saint Seiya" or "Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi," for example, I saw people on the team that the channel "GameOne" called "graphic designers" who said (this is roughly quoting their words from the making-of of DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 1):
    - "My job consists of animating drawings like here with Goku; I work on the timing of his attacks and on the visual impact of those on the opposing character..."
    In this case, have I been mistaken about the name of the job? If so, what is the job where you animate drawings (that you may not have drawn yourself) in the world of video games? Or maybe there are several types of graphic design, like one that draws and another that animates?!
    Anyway, all of this isn't very clear, but if you have an answer, please help me ^^!
    So, we can consider that the subject is resolved except for this last rather embarrassing question :S ...
    Thank you all for your valuable help!
    Hasu
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  18. Hasu
     
    PS: Arf...sorry for the huge mistake with the word "BAQ" xD --> BAC ;)
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  19. kikou
     
    Salut Kenza, voici la traduction en anglais :

    Hi, I'm Kenza from Morocco: Fez; I'm a first-year high school student in a public school; but I have good grades in all subjects. I wanted to know which branch I could follow during these two years and which school I could enroll in afterward to obtain a good diploma for finding a very good job. Please let me know all the steps, including higher education and the names of schools in Morocco because I can't study abroad.
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  20. Ririe Posted messages 112 Registration date   Status Member 42
     
    If you don't know what you want to do later, it's better to lean towards the scientific field because it's the one that closes the fewest doors (in France at least).

    Then, to get a good diploma, you just need to aim for engineering schools, but I can't be more specific because it all depends on what you want to do later (beyond the salary question).

    Ririe
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