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Which computer for civil engineers?

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    rlo73 Posted messages 3123 Status Member 669
     
    For calculations and modeling, a decent screen (a 17-inch with good resolution is a minimum) is required.
    For the CPU, a powerful i7 is good, the same for the RAM (3D meshing is resource-intensive).
    As for the graphics card, you don't necessarily need a powerhouse; a GTX960m is sufficient.
    The machine seems decent to me, even a bit overpowered for what you'll be doing in school (keeping in mind that if you need software... you'll have to pay for it! Because MATLAB and CATIA are expensive unless they still offer free versions for students).
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    1. IngCiv
       
      For you, what is a good resolution? And for RAM, you said that 16GB is what you need? I was thinking it might even serve me after my studies, that's why I wanted a slightly more robust computer, well, if it lasts these few years lol.
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    2. tsuyo21 Posted messages 6766 Status Member 476
       
      Full HD 1980x1080

      It doesn't add anything. Don't focus on that. What matters is the processor, the graphics card, the cooling system.

      Will you need to transport it a lot or not? If yes, a 15-inch can make life easier.
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    3. IngCiv > tsuyo21 Posted messages 6766 Status Member
       
      Yes, I should transport it several times a week, so a 15-inch one then.
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    4. tsuyo21 Posted messages 6766 Status Member 476
       
      If you're aiming for a low price, you have this model
      http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Ordinateurs/Ordinateur-Portable/Ordinateur-Portable-Grand-Public/MSI/4951046-GP62-2QD-224FR-Leopard.htm#moid:MO-8F85DM59235540
      if you add an SSD + some RAM, you'll be looking at a total of €900 (Windows not included)
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      I don't like HP, but it's a nice configuration for €900. You'll need to add €30 or €60 of RAM depending on what's installed.

      latest generation CPU (more efficient, hence more battery life)
      SSD, full HD
      http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Ordinateurs/Ordinateur-Portable/Ordinateur-Portable-Grand-Public/HP/4948676-Pavilion-Gaming-15-AK003NF-Noir.htm#moid:MO-1AB5FM58270116
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      if you don't want to worry, here you have everything included. Asus remains for me the reference in portable gaming PCs.
      https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0166VYWD2/ref=asc_df_B0166VYWD231636913?smid=A1X6FK5RDHNB96&tag=laptop022-21&linkCode=df0&creative=22782&creativeASIN=B0166VYWD2
      => ready to use, Windows, SSD, 16 GB of RAM

      newer version of the Asus casing/cooling
      https://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/v-107-0.html

      You can find the same configuration with Acer, which is also very good
      https://www.amazon.fr/Acer-Aspire-VN7-572G-567Z-Portable-Windows/dp/B017KGUMSQ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1454157061&sr=8-5&keywords=acer+v15+nitro


      Don't hesitate if you have any questions about the different models.
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    5. IngCiv
       
      Thank you very much for the time you spent helping me! I think I'll choose the Asus Rog G551VW; it seems great to me.
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  2. tsuyo21 Posted messages 6766 Status Member 476
     
    What software will be used? Are you planning to play as well? If so, which games?

    Your choice is logical, but we will try to refine it according to the need

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    1. IngCiv
       
      I don't plan to play, so no games. And for software, it will be MATLAB, CATIA, and software that allows modeling objects in 3D, diagrams, graphs, etc. I was considering the MSI GE62 6QD because I found it to be the most powerful among the other computers in the same price range (€1400).
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    2. tsuyo21 Posted messages 6766 Status Member 476
       
      I think we can help you save a bit.

      To adapt to your needs, I would like to know
      - would you be willing to install the SSD yourself?
      - are you ready to add RAM yourself?
      - do you want a 15-inch or a 17-inch?
      - do you need battery life (which is rarely compatible with this type of machine)?
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      1. IngCiv > tsuyo21 Posted messages 6766 Status Member
         
        Install the SSD and add RAM, I've never done that so I'd prefer to avoid it lol.
        For the screen, 15 or 17 doesn't matter too much.
        For the battery life, 4 hours should be enough I think, we have outlets under each bench in the lecture halls so it should be fine.
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  3. vieu bison boiteu Posted messages 44334 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   Ambassador 3 592
     
    Hi IngCiv

    with an Intel Core i7-6700HQ, it’s very good, the most powerful quad-core in laptops
    and with a GTX 960M as well for your use

    see you
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    no links on web pages in English, I already steal enough on my own
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    1. IngCiv
       
      Hello,
      Okay, thank you for your response.
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    2. tsuyo21 Posted messages 6766 Status Member 476
       
      Not the most powerful... the most recent.
      or the most powerful in relation to its consumption. But in raw performance, other CPUs do better.

      In any case, it remains very good.
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      1. IngCiv > tsuyo21 Posted messages 6766 Status Member
         
        You're not talking about the i7 6820HK? I've heard about it but I haven't seen any computers for sale that had it.
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    3. tsuyo21 Posted messages 6766 Status Member 476
       
      if and the 6920hk as well...
      an example of a laptop https://www.laptopspirit.fr/comparateur/PC%20portable/17840/Msi,Gt72s-6qe-083xfr-dominator-pro-g-sans-windows.html

      and some i7 4xxx or i7 5xxx
      But for the 4xxx and 5xxx it's the raw score, but the 6xxx perform better, which allows them to be clocked lower and gain in battery life.
      with a 4xxx or 5xxx you can almost forget about working on battery.


      To give you an idea of the benchmark scores of mobile i7s
      https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

      Intel Core i7-4940MX 9,714

      Intel Core i7-4910MQ 9,529

      Intel Core i7-4930MX 9,457

      Intel Core i7-4860HQ 9,366

      Intel Core i7-4870HQ 9,339

      Intel Core i7-4850HQ 9,144

      Intel Core i7-4760HQ 9,101

      Intel Core i7-4900MQ 9,091

      Intel Core i7-6820HK 9,042

      Intel Core i7-4770HQ 8,973

      Intel Core i7-3840QM 8,880

      Intel Core i7-4810MQ 8,792

      Intel Core i7-6820HQ 8,617

      Intel Core i7-5700HQ 8,617

      Intel Core i7-3820QM 8,531

      Intel Core i7-4800MQ 8,530

      Intel Core i7-3740QM 8,423

      Intel Core i7-3720QM 8,228

      Intel Core i7-4750HQ 8,210

      Intel Core i7-4720HQ 8,113

      Intel Core i7-4722HQ 8,052

      Intel Core i7-4710MQ 8,016

      Intel Core i7-6700HQ 7,982
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    4. IngCiv
       
      Ah yes, okay.
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  4. vieu bison boiteu Posted messages 44334 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   Ambassador 3 592
     
    but that changes your budget too

    >>> MSI GP62 2QD-224FR Leopard, 15.6" HD <<< = 899.00 €
    i7-5700HQ Quad Core 2.7 GHz - 4 Go - 1 To - Nvidia 940M - Windows 10
    and add 8 Go of RAM

    >>> HP Pavilion 15-ab262nf, 15.6" Full HD <<< = 899.00 €
    i7-4510U Dual Core 2 GHz - 8 Go DDR3 - 1 To - Nvidia 940M - Windows 10

    >>> Asus N551JX-DM350T, 15.6" Full HD <<< = 1099.00 €
    i7-4720HQ Quad Core 2.6 GHz - 8 Go DDR3 - SSD 128 Go - 1 To - Nvidia GTX 950M - Windows 10

    and for Catia, a Quadro or Fire Pro is recommended
    https://www.3ds.com/support/news/?subcategory/
    for OpenGL

    and a laptop with a Quadro is at least 1500.00 €
    no link on the webpage in English, I'm already stealing enough by myself
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    2. IngCiv
       
      Oh yes, I think I'm going to skip Catia. And I had also found the Asus N551JX, but I had given it up because there were several criticisms about the screen and the sound. In any case, thank you very much for your help!
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    3. vieu bison boiteu Posted messages 44334 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   3 592
       
      If you are in an engineering school, it also depends on the teaching staff
      in case of studies.
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    5. IngCiv
       
      We'll still have computers available at the university, so I'll still take the 960m. If it runs the software, great; if not, I'll use the university's computers.
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  6. vieu bison boiteu Posted messages 44334 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   Ambassador 3 592
     
    it's not always interesting to get a "pro" card compared to a gamer card.

    for Catia, it is less good in 3D modeling
    with a pro card, you can declare LopenGL
    and under Linux / Ubuntu apply patches
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    no link on the website in English, I'm already flying solo enough
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    1. tsuyo21 Posted messages 6766 Status Member 476
       
      Even for Catia, it's often more interesting to have a gaming card.

      Professional cards are so expensive that, for the price of a gaming card, the professional card will be of lesser quality.

      It's obvious that we need to look at which professional cards and which gaming cards we are comparing. But since the 9xx series, things have changed quite a bit.


      Can we not declare Open GL on an Nvidia card like the 970m?
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