Format Factory : DVD AVI Solved

Question

Hello,
I would like to save a DVD to my PC in AVI format using Format Factory.
I have done it before and have never had any issues.
However, today, I am not being offered the French language option for saving my DVD, and the default language is English.
What should I do? It's a DVD that I bought in France and is indeed in French.
Thank you in advance for your responses.

Lucie · Answer

Hello,
I would like to save a DVD to my PC in AVI format using Format Factory.
I have done it before and have never had any issues.
However, today, I am not being offered the French language option for saving my DVD, and the default language is English.
What should I do? It's a DVD that I bought in France and is indeed in French.
Thank you in advance for your responses.

ziggourat · Answer

Hello,  With DVD Shrink if it accepts your DVD of course, you can also extract your movie in the form of VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS (empty) folder, which can then be converted with Format Factory in the way you usually do.  Best regards -- Long live Bobo! Advocate for Bobo's return to the site!!! ~ Little fish will grow big ~

gej62 · Answer

re
yes, you can encode an iso image to avi, go to the DVD CD ISO drive
click then add file appears all supported iso files
with dvd shrink you save your dvd to the hard drive no need to burn it
click on dvd to video file then below dvd there is a folder you select it by clicking on it then browse and point to your folder you choose
avi and here we go
slts

Lucie · Answer

Alright, the gej62 manipulation is perfect. Thanks for the info, guys.

inana · Answer

I see some pros of Format Factory around here, so I'm going to take the opportunity to ask you how to rip my DVD into one AVI file?  Because right now FF is giving me as many AVI files as there are tracks on the DVD :( and that’s not what I want, I want it to output a single file of the entire DVD in AVI.  What steps or options should I check for that? I followed what was explained in tutorials, but they don’t mention this result.  Does it do that for you too or is there something to check? -- Thank you for your help :)

ziggourat · Answer

Hello,  In Format Factory, you need to go through Advanced --> Video Concentration and set the parameters you want. Make sure to check the order of the VOB files ;)  You also have other software that can do what you want, such as XMedia Recode or Freemake Video Converter with the XviD codec.  Best regards Long live Bobo! ~ Little fish will grow big ~

inana · Answer

Hi Ziggurat  I now have a flat-screen TV with an 82 cm diagonal.  I would like to know what format, proportion I should convert my DVDs to AVI on Format Factory or another?  Since these are not recent DVDs that I get from the library, the picture is already bad when I watch it on my TV, so I can't expect any better anyway?  In any case, every time I merge DVD segments with FF everything is super pixelated, the quality is awful and the sound is off :(  -- Thank you for your help :)

ziggourat · Answer

Hello,  To convert DVD-Videos to AVI files, I would suggest trying XMedia Recode or Freemake Video Converter for example, or even Avidemux version 2.5.6, etc. There are other options as well. DVD Factory is not the software I would use for this operation. The classic method is still to rip the DVD to your computer first and then try to convert it. Of course, you must do this within the strict framework allowed by current legislation!  Since the resolution of a DVD-Video is usually in PAL at 720x576 and in NTSC at 720x480, to maintain the 16:9 aspect ratio, you should set a resolution of approximately 720x405 (720x406, 720x404, or 700x400 can work) or 640x360, which means keeping to the ratio of 1.778. My parents have a 94 cm TV, and for my mother, I use files from TV recordings at 720x404 (I record a show for her that she can’t watch on Saturday around 7 PM), and they are in fullscreen. If the image is 720x576, which is 4:3 for simplicity, then try to maintain this "proportion" of the image as well. This is, for example, the case with the movie The Artist or old films from the past.  As for the bitrate to set (Rate in Format Factory), for DVD-Video it is a maximum of 9800 Kbps. After that, for AVI, it depends on both the duration of the movie and the file size you want. A 700 MB movie will inevitably have a lower bitrate than a 1.4 GB movie or more ;) If I remember correctly, with XviD/DivX you set about 930 Kbps with audio in MP3 at 128 Kbps for a movie lasting 1h30. If 700 MB works for you, then take a look at FairUse Wizard, which in its free version does this (the paid version allows for other sizes...), with the encoding being almost automatic after the few settings required. I used this software to encode my DVD collection quite some time ago.  Do not expect an extraordinary result if the source is mediocre.  A small addition: I will now describe my current method, which is not orthodox but works for me. I rip the DVD-Video (I do not do much of this anymore) with software like DVD Shrink or DVDFab HD Decrypter (free version) or other similar software --> I join the files with Mpeg2Cut2 --> I encode with VirtualDub (the MPEG plugin is required) which remains my preferred software. I create DVD-Videos when a file has trouble opening directly in VirtualDub. Sure, it takes a bit longer, but so far I have always been quite satisfied with the result. I have nevertheless tested other software, including those mentioned above, and it works very well.  There you go, I hope this is clear ;) Long live Bobo! ~ Little fish will grow big ~

inana · Answer

Thank you for your detailed response, Ziggourat :)  I downloaded your two recommended software. During the installation of Freemake Video, there was an error "Ipersist file code 0x80070005"... But it launches afterwards. I just saw that it allows to join two files and merge them, apparently it has evolved since the last time :)) I couldn't find your ratio on it, I took the best possible definition HD1080... I don't know if I chose well, but I'm thinking that if I set it to 16:9, it will be all distorted otherwise.  I will see if it performs better than Format Factory and will keep you informed, it might interest people after all :) -- Thank you for your help :)

ziggourat · Answer

If your device is not connected via HDMI but instead via SCART, it may not be able to read files with a resolution higher than 720x576.  In the AVI profiles of Freemake, you have TV Quality, then click on the little blue gear icon to enter the advanced settings and set it to 360 instead of 480, for example. Of course, you can also modify other criteria in this window, such as the audio which is set by default to 320 Kbps, which is "a lot" for an AVI file (XviD and MP3), so you can lower it to 128 Kbps if you want. The same for the video part, you can set it to whatever you want based on what you wish to do ;)  I’m looking forward to your report... -- Long live Bobo! ~ Little fish will grow big ~

inana · Answer

So, progress report!  The merge went well, without loss of quality and it's quite readable on my TV via SCART, but it’s 1.5 GB and it’s a bit slow for fast forwarding, it feels "heavy" to handle but the image is good, sound is well synced. The aspect ratio is 4:3 with this, so it’s better than when I put the original DVD on my TV (it was all stretched out!) I probably should have adjusted the settings but since I intended to rip it, I didn’t look into it, but the image was poor and distorted.  I’m now running a test with the same software, but at a lower quality level still in HD, if the image is also decent I’ll probably go with that.  I hadn’t touched the MP3s, you’re right I can lower them if it helps reduce the size, that’s good to know. In any case, all this seems very promising because in addition to better quality than Format Factory, I’m rediscovering a software you already recommended, enhanced by the merging which was a super mega plus for me. :)  Oh yes, one probably silly question, when we rip like this, can we no longer have the chapters, direct access to them by clicking on the chapter titles? We can only scroll through, right? Well, we always want more ;)) -- Thank you for your help :)

inana · Answer

Well, it's weird, it's as heavy as the other one in higher definition, and I'm launching now with the same source, and apparently, it's going to come out at 1.5 GB, so I don't understand anything anymore if reducing the quality doesn't reduce the weight...  It must be your bitrate stuff or whatever... -- Thank you for your help :)

inana · Answer

Heu, in fact I'm not reaching the screen you posted in the image, which allows for a custom output size... I had 744 MB for info on my poorly ripped DVD. It's watchable but there are flaws here and there.  Would you be so kind as to give me the access path because I go through DVD > customize and I fill in the fields: size 720x576 original adjustment video codec I don't know what to choose H264 or Divx? it's to put on my Freebox afterwards framerate I left original but I don't know if it's good, what should it be? bitrate type I set it to custom and 930 next to it as indicated in your message but that's what makes me have a smaller size and a borderline image if I understood correctly it's on this that I must act to lighten and have a correct image? sample rate 8000 Hz and bitrate 160 kbps  Thanks for these last clarifications! -- Thank you for your help :)

ziggourat · Answer

Good luck with your tests. To make things easier for you, I suggest using the cutting function to try on a small piece of video rather than the entire film (it will be faster), by choosing, for example, a segment (or several... that you attach) in which you notice encoding defects.  As for the output, it will largely depend on the original film. If the "quality" is good, then the encoding should yield a good result; if it's average, you won't get better than the original. For the bitrate, it depends on the duration of your film whether you opt for 700 MB, 1.36 GB (twice 700 MB), or more.  Afterwards, I'm a bit worried, but not too much, because with both Format Factory and Freemake, you seem to have the same defects in your output file, which is not too normal in my opinion. But if with a larger size the output video is correct, then as you say, you just need to find the right balance ;)  Also try encoding in 2 passes instead of just one; it will take a bit longer, but the result should theoretically be a bit "better". Image: http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2012/42/1350766607-fvc-2-passes.jpg  Hooray for Bobo! ~ Little fish will grow big ~

inana · Answer

Ziggou (yeah, we're on a first-name basis now, lol)  Tell me, is it possible to copy a DVD as is with its clickable menus and chapters using FF or Freemake (or another one)?  Because right now, in AVI we have a linear thing where we can just fast forward.  I should mention that I only have a DVD burner, I don't have two players, just in case that's necessary. -- Thanks :)

ziggourat · Answer

You can copy a DVD-Video identically within the limits allowed by the law (I have to say it!) using software like DVDFab HD Converter (free version), DVD SHrink, or DVDDecrypter, for example.  The concept involves copying onto your computer the exact content of what is on the DVD-Video (ISO image or in the form of a folder containing an AUDIO_TS folder, which can be absent without consequence, and a VIDEO_TS folder) and then burning what you have copied using software capable of burning DVD-Videos or disk images. You have everything you need in animated tutorials available on this site (the software may have evolved, but the principles are still valid): http://www.tutoriels-animes.com/traitement-video.html  Long live Bobo! ~ Little fish will grow big ~

inana · Answer

OK thanks...  I can't make an ISO image with Daemon Tools for example, from the DVD, then burn - within the limits of what the law allows - this image onto a blank DVD, would that work?  Too many bins otherwise the real method :(  -- Thank you for your help :)

ziggourat · Answer

I've never tried with Daemon Tools, but I suppose your method is correct. Give it a try and see if it works or not.  Well, I'm leaving the forum for today, so good night ;) Long live Bobo! ~ Little fish will grow up ~

inana · Answer

Ziggurat  I don't know if you use FMV to convert audios as well. Since you seem knowledgeable about this software, I'm coming to you before posting elsewhere. I converted AMR files from my Android phone to MP3 using Freemake Video Converter, which accepts this type of file according to the list of supported formats. But when I open the converted MP3 files: there's no sound… whereas Format Factory does it well (but ideally, I'd like to keep only FMV and get rid of FF).  What's going on? -- Thank you for your help :)

inana · Answer

Ziggurat,  Well, I've made you my go-to person for audio conversion, so you'll have to get used to me bothering you regularly ;)  Here, I have recordings of shows on my Freebox that last 1 hour, standard quality, I do some cutting to remove ads and I need to convert them because they are too large (1.2 GB), so I convert them to .avi with Freemake.  The problem is that the image is choppy when I watch it on TV and there are some sort of trails during movements (like pixels but not square, in lines around the moving subject).  Could you give me the right settings to configure Freemake (sample rate, bitrate and other fields to customize for it to be good)?  I had set: H264 1024x576 1310 kbps 25 fps MP3 192 32 KHz  Please let me know what to modify to get a smooth and clear image, by field and dropdown menus. -- Thank you for your help :)

ziggourat · Answer

Can you tell me the streams of your original file please, as I'm not recording in HD :/  Afterwards, the issue is to regain the smoothness of your file and obtain a reasonable size, if I understood your problem correctly. The first thing I would do is remove the ads and then encode while preserving the original properties of the file as much as possible. This will give you quite a large file. Then, I would use another software (Avidemux version 2.5.6 or XMedia Recode) to re-encode your file to eliminate the stuttering possibly coming from Freemake, although I don't see why... and to reduce the file size.  However, regarding the settings, you need to follow some simple rules like matching the containers and the video stream even though it's possible to put almost anything in anything. For instance, in an AVI, you generally put DivX/XviD and in MP4, you use H264 and in WMV, it’s WMV 8 or 9, etc. Your problem might come from there, I don’t know...  For audio, you need to respect the frequency which is usually either 44.100 KHz or 48.000 KHz, but if it’s 32.000 KHz then leave it as is.  As for "...there are sort of trails on movements (like pixels but not square, in lines at the edges of the moving subject).", I don't really see where that comes from and personally, I have never encountered such an effect. -- Long live Bobo! ~ A little fish will grow big ~

gej · Answer

hi ziggurat "The problem is that the image is choppy when I watch on TV and there are sort of trails on the movements"  check if the frame rate is correct. also check if the video is interlaced. :-)  I'm just passing through regards

inana · Answer

Welcome Gej...62, it's good that you're passing by, the conversation is open to everyone.
So how can I tell if my video is interlaced and if the frame rate is good?? I think it has to do with the image quality, like a pixelated image; these aren't the blurred trails of some flat screens, I have the impression that's what you're talking about, right? In my case, they are sharp, if you want, the person moving has little rectangular lines on the arm that moves, for example, sharp, it's a bit striped; I don't know how to describe it...

Ziggourat
the file, for example, saved unedited, here are its characteristics:
size 1.5 GB for 1h10

sound: MP3 stereo 48000hz 320 kbps
image: 544x576 16:9 15000 kbps 25 fps
(I copied what I see in Freemake under the name of the imported file; I don't know if that's what you wanted, I don't understand any of these things written lol fps... kbps...)

If I look by right-clicking on the file, I have:
data rate 2865 kbits/s
total bitrate 3121 kbits/s
audio 256 kbits/s
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Thank you for your help :)

gej62 · Answer

Hello Inana, hello Ziggourat.
Thank you for inviting me :-)

"As for '...there are sorts of trails on the movements (like pixels but not square, in lines along the edge of the moving subject).' I don't quite see where this is coming from and personally, I have never encountered this kind of effect."

Look at the types of artifacts (present in the help of VirtualDub)
where the causes and remedies are listed. I will cite a few.

Mattress (compression artifact)

Interlacing (interlacing artifact)

Banding (quantization artifact)

Stair-step artifact (this one could also be it)
This artifact may indicate that a poor nuance processing algorithm is used for resizing the video. More specifically, using a nearest neighbor or point sampling algorithm can result in a stair-step appearance due to the lack of 'smooth' interpolation during resizing, which means that rows and columns are simply duplicated or removed instead of being blended to change the video dimensions. This results in the appearance of a slight wrinkle in the image.

Poor resizing processing is difficult to undo if you no longer have the source, but if you can replicate the poor processing, try to postpone the resizing operations until later so that you can use the high-quality resizing filter from VirtualDub (bilinear or bicubic filter). For example, if you are trying to capture a digital video at a resolution of 480x360, try using the resolution of 640x480 or 640x576 - or something close to the native resolution - and resize after processing. But you will still need more CPU power and recording space.

Rainbow (pitch/stride error)

By having the names of the different types, I think you will surely find a representative photo of your defect on Google, especially if the defect is not present on the source. I believe Ziggourat will complement with relevant links.
Best regards.

ziggourat · Answer

Original image dimensions: 544x576 in 16:9, it probably comes from ADSLTV.
However, when you transform your file, you set it to 1024x576...
In terms of compression, you can't create something from what doesn't exist in principle, so in my opinion, you're using dimensions that are too large.
Basically, reducing the resolution doesn't pose much of a problem, but increasing it creates "points" constituting the image from nothing, so the software will extrapolate to give the illusion of a complete image... but that's not the case in reality! I'm using terms that may not be entirely accurate, but it's to simplify the explanation.

To go further, you have three algorithms for resizing a file (Bilinear, Bicubic, and Lanczos), but I don't know which one Freemake uses.
For slight enlargement, bicubic seems more suitable than bilinear because it does not produce pixelation, source: http://fr.lprod.org/wiki/doku.php/video:cinelerra:manuel:sortievideo
All this is, of course, to be tested, as I'm summarizing what I read here and there, so it's relative...

So as gej62 says, if you want to enlarge your image, you will need to use filters in VirtualDub (Avisynth can probably do it too, but I don't know enough about scripting) like the MSU Deblocking Filter v2.2, the MSU Smart Deblocking Filter, or others to eliminate your artifacts.
See the links under this YouTube video for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eOiPMovgfs
For MSU, see here for example:
- http://www.compression.ru/video/deblocking/index_en.html
- http://www.compression.ru/video/deblocking/smartdeblocking_en.html

After all, it’s a matter of taste as mentioned on this page, there are "2 schools": Bilinear < Bicubic < Lanczos (it's more complex, hence "better") and bilinear for reducing an image and bicubic/lanczos for enlarging it.
Link: https://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/VideoSon/Traitement-Video/bilineaire-bicubique-lanczos-sujet_85947_1.htm

Certain links contain screenshots to give you an idea of the output image, but the best is still to test it yourself.

Finally, personally, for my files coming from recording with HomePlayer (480x576 in 16:9); I resize to 608x342 with Precise Bicubic 0.75 (the default setting) using VirtualDub.
I just checked on the 94 cm LCD television, and the file plays relatively well.

Edit: I'm going to test it on the movie The Godfather 2 that I recorded with ADSLTV, 544x576 in MPEG-2 with a bitrate of only 2754 Kbps and audio in Stereo or MPEG-2.
Your bit rate of 15000 Kbps seems exaggerated in Freemake, a value of around 2800 Kbps seems more appropriate, but what you have is probably true ;)

Long live Bobo! ~ Little fish will become big ~

inana · Answer

Arf, thank you very much for the effort you've put in, but I would have really liked to know what to enter in the custom window for each field of Freemake Video Converter for a file saved on my Freebox with the characteristics I mentioned earlier :(

Image size: ? (I'll leave original)
Video codec: ? (I believe I understood that I should put XVID since I'm outputting a DIVX?)
Frame rate:
Type bitrate:
Bitrate:

Audio codec: ? (I'm putting MP3)
Channels: ?
Sample rate: ? (there I'm lost)
Bitrate: ? (same, I'm lost but I want decent sound so maybe 192 so I don't have to turn up the volume too much on my TV later?)

I can't hear anything about the rest.

Just if I understood correctly, I can respond that when I convert a file saved by Freebox, in the customization window, in "image size" I leave "original size," so it is not due to an enlargement presumably.
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Thank you for your help :)

ziggourat · Answer

Try on a snippet of the file (where you notice defects in your output file), using parameters such as, for an AVI file: XviD video codec, at least 1500 Kbps bitrate (the original bitrate should be around 2500 Kbps; Freemake's indications are "false"). For audio, set MP3 to 192 Kbps while leaving the same frequency (44.1 or 48.000 KHz), for example.
Do not change other parameters like the Framerate regarding video, for instance.
The audio bitrate value has nothing to do with the volume, by the way.

This is just a suggestion, an MP4 file with the H264 codec and audio in AAC might also work since you seem capable of reading that.
The MPG (MPEG-2) if you can read it would likely work too.

P.S.: I've recently discovered that you can have an AVI file (XviD), for example, in 720x576 with a 16:9 aspect ratio. I don't master the subject yet, so I'm not suggesting it, but just know that it's possible.

Long live Bobo! ~ Little fish will grow big ~

ziggourat · Answer

There is one point I haven't mentioned here, gej62 knows more about it than I do, it's the bits to pixels ratio (this ratio is indicative, in short...): https://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/VideoSon/Traitement-Video/choisir-explication-svp-sujet_46093_1.htm
See compacted with MediaInfo http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2012/48/1354209461-mpg-544x576-01.jpg
The file with the really increased resolution is "bad" even on the computer (apparent pixels) so I highly doubt that the rendering on an LCD television would be correct.

Personally, I only use Freemake when I want to quickly transform a file without the intention of keeping it. Nonetheless, it remains a very handy and quite "good" software ;)
--

Long live Bobo! ~ A little fish will grow up ~

gej62 · Answer

Hello to you

The use of "bit/pixel" is a good indicator and well explained in the link.
I aim to keep it at 0.21 for an AVI (XVID+MP3) not exceeding the resolution 720x576 knowing that if we want to fit a video into 700MB
while the bitrate is already low, it's enough to adjust the resolution to reach that value. But well, this is just for reference, but Ziggourat's findings show it well.

Regarding Freemake, I share the same opinion as Ziggourat, we recommend it because it is user-friendly and generally meets the needs for tasks like "rotating a video, cutting a video, etc." The fact that it also accepts a good number of "formats" makes it an ideal tool for those starting out in this exercise.

Well, let's get back to our sheep (not angry :-)
The settings proposed by Ziggourat are correct, but as he points out
(the indications from Freemake are "false").
By digging into the software, I did see the profiles used; some can be modified, particularly on H.264, but nothing convincing regarding XVID.

For adjustment (adjustment algorithm), perhaps try "auto-adjust."
If there is aliasing around the characters, it is certainly due to a poor adjustment (subject to verification)

If Ziggourat could provide us with a small screenshot of the photos of the defects in the help of VirtualDub. That would really help.
Best regards.

inana · Answer

Here I am again...

I have a little problem, when I open a video from my PC in FreemakeVC, and I cut it, I see the time reduced from 51 min to 7 min in the editing window, I click OK, but then when I go to the source folder of the file I imported, nothing has changed, the file is still 51 min long!!!

I don't know how to save my modifications, it hasn't been done automatically for a while and there's no "file > save as"...

Can you explain to me how to save my modified files under a different name so that it is properly taken into account? It's really important to me...

Thank you

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Thank you for your help :)

ziggourat · Answer

Hi again ;-)

With Freemake, you need to delimit the start and end points with time markers and then cut with the scissors.
See image (click on it to enlarge):

Only once you have made all your "cuts" do you press OK before starting the conversion to the desired "format."

To rename, you have two ways to do it:
1: directly on the video name in the software (F2 key if desktop PC):

2- in the folder where your video will be stored, giving it the name you want:

Here I could have named it "biddy movie" for example instead of "my video."

P.S.: I'm not using the latest version but version 4.1.6.1 of this software, which seems to be the one before the latest.

--
Long live Bobo! ~ Little fish will grow big ~

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