Car Buyer Scam Ivory Coast

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tigre_blanc Posted messages 66 Status Membre -  
 amidmfs -
Hello everyone.
I know you will say: yet another post on the subject, but the aim is to inform honest people about the bad intentions of some!

Let me share my story: my vehicle is currently for sale on several free sites (no ads, goo... is your friend).
The steps:

1- I receive a text message from 10047:
"Interested, following your car ad, if the sale is current, please contact me by email: arden.P10@gmail.com
Mr. Arden"

2- I reply to this gentleman to contact me back if he is really interested. Here is his response via email this time:
"Hello,

received, please give me more detailed information if possible:
-has it ever been in an accident,
-if there are no costs to expect,
-please attach recent internal and external photos,
if we were to deal, what would be your firm price and payment method,

sincerely.
Mr. Arden"

3- still unsuspecting, I send him about thirty photos and in good faith, I indicate that I have renewed the timing belt, in short, that the car is in excellent condition, which is true, but... that's not the point of my post here; and then he replies to me:
"Hello,

I acknowledge receipt of the photos, impeccable.
Please send me your landline and mobile contact number.

sincerely
Mr. Arden"

4- still trusting, I give him my phone numbers... and then I think "strange, the mobile number appears well on my ad", anyway, he replies, and then I understood:
"Hello,

I confirm the purchase of the vehicle for the price of €3,100, after checking with my bank regarding the payment method, it turns out that certified bank checks from Africa to Europe are not guaranteed, being currently in Africa, I am a French expatriate.
At the service of the UNDP (United Nations Development Programme in Côte d'Ivoire and Ghana) West Africa.
My bank advises me to do a bank transfer, which is faster and more secure (credits your account within 48 hours from the date of execution), I therefore propose to pay you via this channel.
I will recommend the shipping company MAERSK LINE to pick up the vehicle at your address after your account is credited.
Phone 00225 57 195588

sincere regards.
Mr. Arden"

5- sensing the trap, I reply that I am waiting for the procedure to carry out the transaction.

I want to go a little further so you have the maximum information about this scammer so that overly gullible people don’t fall for it.
To everyone, I wish good luck in hunting down scams, and especially post your testimonies so that search engines can index as many keywords as possible. Death to scammers!

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chat_teigne Posted messages 207 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention   1 559
 
Thank you for these testimonials that help inform other potential victims.

Reminder:

Keep in mind that all names/first names and copies of documents provided by these scammers are invented, falsified, or usurped from individuals completely unrelated to these scams. They simply adapt real ads after obtaining the necessary document copies (posing as buyers).

The goal is to convince you to make an international money transfer like Western Union that they will have no difficulty cashing (in some countries, the codes and presentation of ID are easily bypassed: that's the basis of these scams).

For information on the mechanisms of these scams and the conduct to adopt, see here: https://www.commentcamarche.net/faq/10049-arnaques-sur-sites-d-annonces-entre-particuliers

Important: your testimonials help many internet users escape these scams. Feel free to post your email exchanges (after removing your personal information).

Thank you for your cooperation :)
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pa.13
 
Hello,

I confirm that my identity card is circulating without my knowledge on the internet after I myself was a victim of a scam originating from an individual at the Banque Atlantique in Côte d'Ivoire.

Since then, numerous calls have reported offers for purchasing vehicles from Côte d'Ivoire or Benin.

Warning: these offers are entirely fraudulent and certainly do not come from me as I live in France and am in no way expatriated.
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VIVI23A
 
The person who scammed me is called Moussier Pascal. (moussier.p@hotmail.fr)
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klauzak Posted messages 2 Status Membre
 
Here are 2 new names I received this weekend, these 2 people "work" for UNICEF and they sent me exactly the same email as b.mirec.
and a new email address for lebourhis philippe who is trying again (if it's the same person) with another address.

arll micheau (mr-micheau@live.fr)

JEAN CLAUDE VERNIER (jcvernier11@gmail.com)

lebourhisphilippe@in.com

See you next time!
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loulou2
 
Hello, I just read the information regarding Pierre Arden with the address arden.p10@gmail.com.

I am currently selling my vehicle and he sent me exactly the same emails as "white tiger".
This morning he confirmed to me that he would buy my vehicle for €13,800.

His attitude seemed strange to me so I answered him: Do you want to buy a vehicle without even seeing it beforehand? What number can I contact you at?

I’m waiting for his response...

In any case, thank you for spreading the information like you do :) it's really nice!

PS: two other addresses of suspicious people:

lemangnen.daniel@hotmail.fr

jrlagache@hotmail.fr

They both sent me a message via +32 492 68 76 32... but with two different names! Not very clever at all!!
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calougr Posted messages 2 Status Membre
 
Hello, I just got scammed today regarding a motorcycle sale.

I know :( I wasn't cautious enough this time.

Email from the buyer

Hello
I have just made the transfer and I have the 10-digit codes for the Western Union cash transfer.
But the post office director informed me of certain things because in the country where we reside, this country was at war, and during the war in this country, there was so much embezzlement, money laundering, and arms purchases against the state's interest. So the state of this country has implemented a law that states that for any outgoing transfer from this country, there will be taxes to pay for traceability verification. Therefore, I had to find out if I could pay the tax on your behalf, but it's the opposite, I cannot. So I added the amount of the tax that you need to pay to the state of this country on the transfer so that you can withdraw the money. They simply provided the codes so that you can check the transfer codes on the WESTERN UNION website to see for yourself that the transfer has indeed been made.
So the website is www.westernunion.fr.
Once you are on the homepage, scroll down a bit until you see "check the status of a transfer." You will enter
First name: joseph
Last name: alain
Transfer code: 0790364275
Then click validate.
If the codes are indeed valid, it will state that money can be withdrawn by the beneficiary, which is you.
But there remains the QUESTION/ANSWER of the transfer, because at Western Union, to withdraw the money, we need the 10-digit code and the question-answer. The director informed me that you must pay your share of the tax, which is €387, imposed for the de-monetization of the transfer because 1 euro equals 655.975 CFA francs, and to allow them to settle on a sure monetary value, you will need to pay the de-monetization taxes so that they can secure the transfer on a sure monetary value of €1800. However, since I am the buyer, I added the fees you will have to pay on your transfer, totaling 1800 + 387€ = 2200€ that you need to receive now. And then, at the same time, they should provide you with the QUESTION/ANSWER so that you can withdraw your funds, that is to say, the €2200 that I made in transfers.
I am leaving you the number of the post office manager here as they need to tell you how to pay the €387 and subsequently provide you with the question-answer for the €2200: Mr. TOURE CHARLES / TEL: (00225) 07 57 47 21
Thank you for addressing this quickly so that the recovery can proceed.

Best wishes to your family

My contact information for filling out the sales deed
Mr. JOSEPH ALAIN
58 Rue des gargotes
01 BP 1045 Abidjan 01
TEL/00225 03 48 39 76

Once the €387 is sent, I will contact Mr. TOURE who, of course, will not give me the question and answer and asks me to make a new transaction of €450 to get what I need to access my money.

Be careful

Pascal
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tigre_blanc Posted messages 66 Status Membre 2
 
Ouch!
How do you expect the public treasury in Ivory Coast to have your phone?
It's an accomplice of your scammer who tried to do a bit of social engineering, that is to say, attempting to obtain information from you by impersonating someone else....
You did well not to follow up on it.
Good luck moving forward, and especially never use Western Union to sell or buy something online, as according to La Poste, it's prohibited.
Western Union is safe, but only in France because our banking system is one of the most secure in the world.
This system is intended for transferring funds between people who know each other!
See this link: https://www.labanquepostale.fr/index/particuliers/au_quotidien/l_argent_a_l_etranger/Western_Union.bref.html
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klauzak Posted messages 2 Status Membre
 
Hello, I recently put my vehicle up for sale on paruvendu.
The next day, I received an email saying that my vehicle interested an internet user.
I sent an email to him saying that I was available for more information.
He replied with this email:

bernard mirec (b.mirec123@gmail.com)

hello

I received your email and I find that your vehicle is in good condition
that's why I decided to buy it, but before that there is a little
problem, I want to let you know that I am a Frenchman working
in Ivory Coast for UNICEF. Regarding the payment method, I propose a bank check or a cash transfer via Western Union; but
I want to let you know that the transaction will take place from Ivory Coast where I am currently working with UNICEF. If you agree, please send me your HOME ADDRESS AS WELL AS THE FINAL PRICE AND YOUR LANDLINE AND MOBILE PHONE NUMBER so that I can proceed as soon as tomorrow morning. For the pick-up, we will arrange an appointment with my freight forwarder, as I plan to have my freight forwarder come to your home for the pick-up of the purchase (in
France)
Best regards
here is my phone number
Mr. Bernard mirec 00225 46 89 67 70

It seemed strange to me that he didn't ask any questions about the vehicle and that he requested my mobile number which I had already given him.
Not familiar with this type of scam, I searched his name on the internet but found nothing.

I replied with this email:

Good evening Sir,

Before proceeding any further, I would like to have a voice conversation with you, to agree on the next steps. I cannot afford to call Ivory Coast. If possible, I would like you to call me by this weekend (evenings between 6:30 PM and 9 PM French time or this Thursday which is a holiday or this weekend). Or if you cannot, let’s contact each other via skype (give me your availability and I will share mine so we can set a time).
Best regards.

Since then, nothing. Strange.

The next day, I received this email from another person:

Lebourhis Alain Philippe (alainphilippe52@yahoo.com)

hello Mr or Mrs

yes, I agree to buy the item but first I want to tell you that I am French from Caillon (27) and I am currently abroad for work reasons.
I am ready to send you the money to reserve the item for me as I will be returning to France soon and will stop by your address to pick up the item if you agree with me. Please let me know because for payment, I will send you a cash transfer which you will receive at your local post in cash to reserve the item for me.
I need:

-your complete address.
-full name.
-landline and mobile number.
-your final price.
waiting to hear from you.

Thank you and have a good evening.

Strange as well, and I managed to find some forums.

More or less the same methods every time, so be careful not to be fooled even if the nice gentleman works for UNICEF.
See you soon!!
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a130
 
Me too, same approach, but for a 6-month-old car.
He sent me a double-sided scan of his ID card!
It seems authentic. Either it was stolen, or it was sent by a seller, or it’s fake.
Anyway, it's a scam; it's a shame that specialized services don't try to stop this type of scam.
Oh, I almost forgot, he also uses the name Mr. M. Grisard.
To the discerning. Bye.
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tigre_blanc Posted messages 66 Status Membre 2
 
@loulou2:
Oh, what a good joke!
Don't be fooled, the third email he sends you will contain a copy of his ID.
He will certainly ask for yours to continue his scams with your name!!!
Anyway, if you manage to get any other info about him or other funny characters of his kind, feel free to post!
Let's stay vigilant!
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hervé62
 
scam used cars Ivory Coast ads by ouest-france.com: here are 4 people who almost simultaneously wanted to buy my car with the same story and asked me to pay taxes: robertkolia@yahoo.fr; saillet-jean@live.fr; languillon.philippe@yahoo.fr; michelle.guezou@gmail.com. ATTENTION IF YOU ARE CONTACTED BY THEM .... they all have the same speech and sometimes even the same questions. It's becoming widespread ...
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animab
 
Well, thank you again. I found it strange too, this morning reading the email from this person interested in my car for sale on different websites. I had told him that the inspection would only be done when I was sure and I asked for a certified bank check (thinking he would no longer be interested) and well, no. He is still interested and he wants my contact information: first name, last name, address, and phone number to issue the bank check. Now, I suspect something strange. So, I do some research (super internet) and bingo! I come across your testimonies. So, here is his new business address: josephalain20@gmail.com
Be careful! It's serious
And thank you for all your testimonies.
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david 54000
 
Hello

I got scammed just like you, and I stopped the sale immediately. However, he has my first name, last name, and address. Does this put me or my family at risk?

Please reply, thank you.
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bricemon
 
Hello phishing friends,

I currently have a nice piece of furniture for sale on free ad sites and oh surprise, I am being contacted by "expats living in Ivory Coast" who all want to buy my item by paying in advance! They ask for my address, bank details, photocopies of ID, etc. in return...
I am facing attempts of phishing against me, and I am sharing their email addresses, fake names, and phone numbers (phones in Ivory Coast!):
chevalier_guy46@yahoo.fr
00225 47 25 80 37
00225 46 64 06 85
Mr-patrickdu75@hotmail.fr
Blanpain Denis
PATRICK ROGER
22 rue des finances in Ivory Coast

Above all, never give any personal information to such individuals, as it would be used to create fake documents (papers, etc.).
Those who have already given personal information, please contact the police, gendarmerie, etc.
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tigre_blanc
 
Pff... they really have no scruples.
Thank you for your testimony, but unfortunately I believe you are caught in the gears.
You can always file a complaint, but for the 500 euros you've already sent, you might not see a dime.
I advise you to end the transaction because, to your disappointment, your car, no matter how well cared for or pampered it is, does not interest these crooks at all.
I think they will pretext issue after issue with their bank and ask you for more money.
As for me, and for your information, my exchanges with this Pierre Arden stopped when I asked him to provide me with the procedure.
I feel like pushing the deception further to get more information on him, but I think he realized I wanted to catch him.
As soon as I have more information, I’ll keep you updated, and I will post as much as possible to reference this crook’s name on Google.
I am sincerely sorry for you.
Good evening nonetheless, and I look forward to hearing from you again.
Sincerely, Tigre_blanc.
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VIVI23A
 
You were right to be wary. I fell into their trap and lost 500 euros.
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tigre_blanc Posted messages 66 Status Membre 2
 
Hello everyone, we need to keep posting as much as possible so that discussions like this rise to the top of search engines, feel free to give the name used to try to scam you.
I myself received a copy of an identity card, but out of respect for the person who probably had it stolen, I will not share it.
In short, to stop this type of "identity theft," avoid trusting someone who scans their ID for you at all costs.
And even less when this person asks for your bank details!
This person, in this specific case, is 99.9% likely an identity thief.
Moreover, if you send them a scan of your ID, you can be sure they will use it for an attempted scam with YOUR identity!!!
How do you think new names keep coming up every day, with ALWAYS a similar process:
+acceptance of the price without discussion
+request for interior and exterior photos
+acceptance of the sale without trying or even seeing the vehicle
+request for your bank details, scan of identity card
+pretext of a bank check problem then proposal for transfer via Western Union
+request for participation via money order to "unlock the money"
+cash-out of the money order without password and without identity control via African Western Union agent (accomplice and receiving his commission), immediately upon your transfer confirmation
+new request for participation via money order to clear the vehicle
+and so on........

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vb
 
I received an email from the same type of person (?) from Mr. A. Gaucher, with a copy of his identity card. It's a really shady affair, because how do you explain receiving the same email from 2 different people?

VB
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Gregory1282
 
Hello,
I put my vehicle up for sale and I was contacted by the same person, claiming to be Mr. ARDEN Pierre. The messages are identical to yours and I am currently stringing him along to see how far he will go. Rest assured, I understand the scam.
Best regards.
Greg.
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ninetdoud
 
Hello
same scam for me I received the same message:

Hello,

I confirm the purchase of the vehicle for the price of €6,000,
After consulting my bank regarding the payment method,
it appears that certified bank checks from Africa to Europe are not guaranteed,
Currently being in Africa, I am a French national expatriate.
I work for UNDP (United Nations Development Programme in Ivory Coast and Ghana) West Africa.
My bank advises me to use a bank transfer, which is faster and more secure (it credits your account within 48 hours from the execution date), so I would like to pay you via this channel.
I will recommend the transport company MAERSK LINE to pick up the vehicle at your address once your account is credited.
Please send me your mobile contact number.
Phone 00225 57 195588

sincere regards.
M. Arden

of course I will not follow up. (a bit obvious as a scam)
bye and happy hunting...
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tigre_blanc Posted messages 66 Status Membre 2
 
Hello, well as for me to have a good laugh, I told him that I believed he was honest, just to see how far this little sneaker crook was willing to go.
No, ultimately, those people amuse me and also make me want to vomit.
Be careful, once again, especially when the "buyer," who couldn't care less about your car, whether it's worth 200 or 25,000 euros, wants to take it from you without even seeing it for himself.
On the other hand, the company MAERSK LINE does indeed exist and is indeed intended for the international maritime transport of all types of goods in containers.
And I repeat once again: it is absolutely forbidden to pay for online purchases via Western Union.
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tigre_blanc Posted messages 66 Status Membre 2
 
While searching the forum, I found this link that summarizes a wealth of information on scams.
I encourage you to read it... and thanks to its author.

https://www.commentcamarche.net/faq/10049-arnaques-sur-sites-d-annonces-entre-particuliers#liste-des-modes-de-paiements-deconseilles-entre-inconnus
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