Increase in electricity bills for millions of French people starting August 2026
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Hello,
I have always found it abnormal that this Turpe is (partly) calculated based on Mwh, therefore on consumption; it should only be based on the subscribed power regarding the remuneration of the distributor Enedis, which is supposed to adapt its equipment to the subscriptions, whether they are underused or not.
This way, there would no longer be under-remuneration of the network due to a decrease in consumption.
And there you have it ....
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The CRE, which decides on these variations, has all its members, including 2 out of 9 representing consumers, appointed by decree or by elected officials (president of the Senate...).
The vast majority are individuals with no ties to the companies but rather political figures or senior civil servants.
Enedis, which collects the corresponding TURPE, is a 100% subsidiary of EDF, of which the state holds 100% of the capital.
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Does this system also work when winter is very cold and consumption is higher? Shouldn't we then see a substantial decrease? Hard to believe!!!!
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Well no, since the revenues of Enedis and other utilities increase proportionally, in that sense it's automatic and already in the bill.
Just like the rest: VAT especially and also the Excise, however they bring in less when consumption drops, but while the VAT can hardly change, the excise is cheerfully fiddled with by the government about every year and it goes directly into their pockets, while paying VAT in the process.
There are no other operators than Enedis and RTE, monopolizing the network.
The variable extraction component, the one that annoys since it’s the only one with the excise duty proportional to consumption, is collected by the supplier and remitted by them excluding tax to Enedis-RTE like the others, except for the "contributions." If there is anything immoral, it is indeed the CTA that enriches the "social works" of EDF-GDF at the consumer's expense, excise duty benefiting the state, and all this with double punishment since it is subject to VAT, thus a jackpot for the state proportional to consumption including on the variable extraction component.
Even assuming that the other components of the TURPE increase at the same time, it is the variable extraction component that takes the lion's share with the second place on the podium for the excise duty.
For example, with a monthly heating bill in a co-ownership for winter, 3682 kWh at 36 kVA, we have an amount excluding tax of €224.16 for variable extraction, €112.38 for excise duty, "only" €36.36 for fixed extraction, the rest (management and fixed extraction) being negligible, and excluding subscription and consumption €76.06 for VAT on TURPE, CTA, and excise.Yes, yes
there are still other electricity distributors than Enedis, I am quite familiar with this one for example.
They sell BT or HTA (20kV) connections.
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It's quite comical, isn't it? We get nagged about energy sobriety, we have to heat to 19 degrees at most, make sure to turn off our devices instead of leaving them on standby, shift heavy consumption to the night, blah blah blah... only to ultimately get screwed in the summer because we didn't consume enough in the winter.
I love it, it's just so great, it's just amazing.