LeBonCoin scam / DHL cash payment
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Hello, I want to report that I nearly got scammed yesterday on Le Bon Coin and the scheme is well thought out.
I put some books up for sale for €40. I received an email from someone interested who asked if delivery by DHL was okay since I would hand over the books upon payment in cash to the delivery person. So far, so good, then the person told me this:
"By the way, DHL no longer handles cash. That's why DHL asks you to open your DHL account to receive the money via bank transfer. If you've done it, you must confirm your identity to prove to DHL that the bank card you sent them is yours. For this purpose, DHL will send you confirmation codes that only you will be able to send to them. It's a purchase simulation. The purchase is not real. If you send the codes to DHL, your identity will be confirmed and the money will be transferred to you. I went through this too. So, don’t worry."
Then to create this account, to supposedly validate the DHL account, I had to confirm test transactions of €250 with the code received by SMS. I told him there was no way I was confirming fake transactions, I am cautious and fortunately so because after analyzing the IP address of the supposed DHL, whose email is: service.dhl.europe@inbox.ru, I discovered that the host is located in Côte d'Ivoire, SO DO NOT ACCEPT TO SELL AN ITEM THROUGH DELIVERY SERVICE, IT'S A SCAM, like that, they have your bank details and you send them CERTICOD to validate these transactions. I admit they were clever with this kind of scam, those bastards.
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Reminder on the DHL site: https://www.dhl.fr/fr/informations_importantes/010317.html
See you later
Leboncoin is by no means a remote sales site....
I just received the same type of message. "OK for 110€. I live in Hérault in the center. Please give me your first name, last name, email address, and postal address so that I can make your payment online at DHL via my DHL account. You should receive the money in cash from the DHL carrier who will come to your place to pay and pick up the stroller at my expense. Does that suit you?"
Sale on Leboncoin but the person didn’t want to discuss through that same messaging
My bank has sent you the check via DHL as promised. However,
you need to pay DHL the insurance fees for the check amounting to
150 euros to secure the check during shipping. This is why my bank has added 150 euros to the initial amount so that you don’t lose a single cent in the end. So, you will have a check for 508.65 euros. I have already paid the delivery fees to DHL. You just need to pay the fees requested by DHL to receive it.
Did you receive the email from DHL?
If not, please check your inbox or spam or junk mail and let me know
Best regards!
And following my email to DHL (in spam)
Refusal of this imposed transaction
I just received an email and some not very nice emails
I just made a sale from individual to individual that ended up with you without keeping me informed
I don't know what to think about it, but I absolutely do not endorse this type of transaction, especially since the person is threatening me for fraud
It’s up to you to do what is necessary to reassure her, but for me, there is no question of finalizing
I will not send anything or cash anything, it's up to you to take the necessary measures
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 7:46 PM Subject: RE: A complaint has just been filed against you in accordance with the DHL service before the competent courts for non-compliance with a financial transaction procedure in progress, we will therefore settle this matter in court. Best regards
DHL:
We acknowledge receipt of your email and inform you that it was you who gave your consent to Ms. Nathalie Aubert for her to send you a check in the amount of 508.65€, and we inform you that her check has indeed been sent to your postal address and that this procedure complies with the laws and financial regulations in force in the European Economic Area regarding the shipment of a bank check via DHL EXPRESS and this insurance of 150€ is the responsibility of the check's recipient as a protection against any potential loss or damage caused to the check during its transport, which is why a legal action has been initiated
against you because you did not comply with the terms of the contract.
This mandatory insurance is therefore a guarantee that will allow you to assert your rights with DHL EXPRESS, which will reimburse you the full amount credited on the check, i.e. 508.65€, in case of a major mishap.
We therefore kindly ask you to go as soon as possible to a tobacco shop and purchase a (1) PCS Mastercard top-up voucher of 150€ and then email us the top-up code of the voucher so that we can pay the insurance tax and then return your check of 508.65€ as soon as possible.
Please also note that you will not lose a single cent during this transaction because if you noticed, the 150€ you will pay has already been reimbursed from the initial amount of your check, which will give you a check of 508.65€ that you will receive once you have paid the insurance tax for the check.
We are therefore waiting for the top-up code of the PCS Mastercard top-up voucher no later than tomorrow, Friday, January 11, 2018, before 11:30 AM
because after this deadline we will be obliged to cancel the sending of your check of 508.65€ and return it to Ms. Nathalie Aubert who is the sender, which will lead us to activate the legal action initiated against you followed by your arrest and you will have to pay a fine of 3000€ to Ms. Nathalie Aubert and DHL EXPRESS INTERNATIONAL for damages caused by the cancellation of this transaction and a 3-month prison sentence for non-compliance with an ongoing financial transaction.
What a story!!!
Good evening,
Thank you for your post as I have also been approached by this fraud to date.
After listing a fridge for sale on the Leboncoin website, I received a text message saying that my product interests him, asking me to reply by email to let him know if the fridge is still available and that it’s an urgent purchase!
I found it suspicious but decided to reply by email to confirm that my product is still available.
He replied: Thank you for your response, if you allow me I will send you the money by mail via the DHL carrier who will pick up the fridge and at the same time give you the money.
If this suits you, please provide me with your name, first name, and postal address.
Luckily, I went online and came across your post!
I replied that no, it does not suit me, only cash on delivery.
Not forgetting to block and report the email as phishing.
Email: Email address removed Moderation CCM
So be careful and stay vigilant!
DHL is not responsible for the actions of scammers residing in Africa.
The method employed by this scammer is well known.
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As usual with every shady selling experience, I always find the right answers which are of course "scam", so thank you for confirming my doubts.
Indeed, I listed a washing machine for sale on Leboncoin and I received a text message. Initially, I had no doubts except that the person asked me to respond to their email.
Alright, maybe they aren't available by phone, so I sent an email to confirm that the machine is available.
Following my email, I received a response saying that they prefer to pay in cash and that they will use a DHL carrier.
That's when the alarm bells went off, I stopped responding and went online to type in the keywords leboncoin scam cash DHL, bingo I stumbled upon your posts.
Not long ago, I was selling a mobile phone and had another suspicious story with a buyer who explained the whole process using PayPal and even offered to pay for shipping with Chronopost, plus the PayPal fees. I was already suspicious and confirmed my doubts when they supposedly sent me the PayPal payment, along with a so-called confirmation email from PayPal but from a fake email address.
Supposedly, I had to send the item to release the money in my PayPal account. Knowing how PayPal works well, and even if I didn’t, it would likely have been the same, I didn’t fall for it and I sent a little friendly email to my contact who never replied.
So indeed, be very vigilant because it can cost a lot to those who aren't careful.
A little tip just in case: PayPal never holds your money in the event of third-party payments. As long as the money doesn't show up in your balance, it isn’t there.
Anyway, thanks to those who read my little stories to the end, hoping I haven't been too messy in my explanations.
Le Bon Coin needs to raise awareness because some people might get tricked!!
Thank you for your answer.
two weeks ago, I put a piece of clothing from a well-known brand for sale on the classifieds site, and I’ve only received offers via SMS asking me to write to them by email from four different people. Fortunately, I came across a nice postal worker who, when I asked him what Chronopost number I should give to the person who told me they had sent the money via PayPal, as I had requested (money not received, but that I would get as soon as the Chronopost number was sent to the person, in exchange for which I would definitively receive the money), naïvely, I thought this was probably normal. Luckily for me, the postal worker asked me to show him the received SMS and told me: “This is a scam coming from Africa. There was a time when we hadn’t seen this anymore. Check online, but I advise you not to send anything until you have received a payment.” I was glad I took his advice, because when I got back home, I looked up scams related to the classifieds site... and surprise, there are a lot of them! Of course, I didn’t send anything, and since "they" must have seen that I had uncovered them (I wrote an email saying that I wouldn’t send anything at all until I received a payment via PayPal only – simple, practical, fast and no bank account number to provide to potential buyers), I received more SMS, but all with spelling mistakes, emails and money transfer proposals, whether through the post (weird, the email from the post and what they were proposing), so I replied: no way: PayPal transfer only and nothing else... The other SMS or emails were the same, it was either with DHL express, cash transfer, or to my address with cash inside, in short, I’m still waiting for the PayPal transfer, but I’m not backing down. I keep writing “no payment received on my PayPal account only = no sending of clothing”: it’s annoying... and I admit one has to be vigilant, and now, I check immediately on “scams with ... on the classifieds site! So be careful, I almost fell for it... I was lucky: but what a number of schemes the scammers use!
You were lucky to benefit from the postman's vigilance!
It's an "experience" that ends well, and reinforces what we constantly say here... Never trust the identities of scammers, they change them at will and they are usurped... but always take into account the scenario, the payment methods, the wording of any emails, the terms, etc...
See you!
Hello
I acknowledge receipt of your email and I would like to thank you for your response telling me that your item for sale is still available. I agree to buy it from you in its current condition. wooden buffet I inform you that I am at 882 CHEMIN DES CHARBONNIERES 34540 BALARUC-LE-VIEUX and, due to work, I would like to proceed with the purchase of your item. Since I will have little time when I return to take care of it, I am sending the DHL EXPRESS service to you for pickup and cash payment at my expense. I will send you the cash in an envelope through the DHL EXPRESS delivery service for both pickup and payment. It is a service where the courier who takes the package hands over the cash payment at the same time. So if you agree to this principle, please provide me with the following information so that I can send the DHL EXPRESS service to you
Your Last Name:
Your First Name:
The firm price of your item:
Your landline and mobile contact:
Your home address for pickup and payment:
I replied
Hello,
I’m sorry, but "leboncoin" is in no way a distance selling site. I only hand over what I sell in person and I require direct payment on the spot from the buyer.
Best regards,
Sam.
Same situation ...
- Messages received on my mobile at 4:53 AM and 5:57 AM??? (I'm selling: a sofa/1st message + 2 armchairs/2nd)
- The person asks me if it’s still available, and to contact him at the following email:
(***@***) here’s his mobile number (06 50 75 78 43)
- I replied by email that it’s still available (I posted my ad yesterday evening ...)
- Response almost immediately, same situation as with you, and she even added 25 € for reservation (as I had specified that my item was only available from July 8th (tempting, isn’t it?)
At the end of her message:
Your Name:
Your First Name:
The firm price of your item:
Your landline and mobile contact:
Your home address for pickup and payment:
So, I copied a bit from your response, Thanks to you.
I replied:
Hello,
I am sorry, but "Le Bon Coin" is by no means a "distance selling site".
I only hand over what I’m selling “in person” and have the buyer pay me "on the spot" in cash.
I also usually use "Le Bon Coin" to buy an item, and it has never occurred to me to buy something without having seen it "whatever its price"!!!
Best regards
A.B
There you go, I hope my comment will help others.
What kind of world are we living in? Scams....
After putting an item for sale on Le Bon Coin, I immediately received a weird text saying to only reply by email, then a discussion started via SMS with a proposal to have the item picked up by DHL. An agreement was reached and then I received an email styled like DHL asking me to purchase a card for the item's insurance ?????? I investigated on various sites, including CCM, and my suspicions were confirmed... a scam. Fortunately, I didn't send any money.
Right away, I sent a text to the number that was in the original email saying: "I'm forwarding the email to a fraud alert site, as well as your phone number. DHL using gmail.com ... no comments. Taking advantage of people is very low... below gutter level." The response was immediate: "F*** off." I think that cancels the sale ;-)
Just for your information, I've had multiple requests for transactions via PayPal which also seemed suspicious...
Everyone needs to be informed about the presence of these scammers who are polluting everything.
It's been a while since this type of scam has been growing, even if it's not (yet...) the most common one....
It's certain that over time, scammers will "come up with" more elaborate scenarios... Fortunately, it's these scenarios that allow us to thwart the nonsense...
Anyway, as usual... caution and analysis of the circumstances should help prevent us from getting "tricked"....
See you later
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Best regards,
Sam
So friends, be very careful with sales on Le Bon Coin; there are quite a few scams coming from Ivory Coast, and once again, thank you for posting all these messages. Thanks to you, I didn't fall for it, and I realize I'm not the only paranoid psychopath.
I am exactly in this position...
Fortunately, I saw the scam and looked at this site...
Thank you for all your comments...
It’s true that we need to inform....
They also threatened me when I stopped responding.
Thanks again!
You have to be stupid to fall for it because it's really a blatant method, but it clutters up the Le Bon Coin site.
The identities provided are in the vast majority of cases stolen identities from previous scams. They will therefore be removed here if their legitimate owners request so.
Indeed, publishing these names, although informing that they are currently used in attempts at fraud, only harms the "real" people who have been deceived and are now struggling to face the heavy consequences that follow....
Furthermore, when an identity is "too worn out".... the criminals will use another one.... and that one... will be used to trap you if you only rely on names to "protect" yourself.... (Moreover, depending on the scenarios, once trapped, it is your names that will be found on the forum....... )
The only way to protect yourself is to take into account the scenario, its context, the way the emails are written, the payment methods, etc., etc....
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He said he had sent us an envelope containing €270 via DHL express, and after checking on this forum, I noticed that this is a huge scam, be very careful.
Thank you for your messages.
From a certain Marchant Leroux
For an item priced at €400 on Le Bon Coin, he told me he would add €35 to get priority on the product. Then he asked me to go to the tobacco shop to buy a €150 PCS card and that he had deposited an amount of €585 with DHL who would come to give me the envelope of money and take my item in exchange. Fortunately, I stopped everything in time. Be careful ⚠️
I placed an ad on Le Bon Coin to sell my telescope. That same evening, I received a positive response from Ms. Dominique Madeleine xxxxx (***@***) who found the price reasonable and even added €25 for the reservation and €160 for transportation via DHL. However, I had to pay this amount upfront by purchasing a TRANSCASH coupon intended for DHL at a tobacco shop, which she would reimburse me in cash when the carrier came to pick up the telescope, as she could not move.
I received from DHL (???) some documents written in approximate French that made me fear, unfortunately too late, a scam as they were asking me for my bank details while I was the seller! I tried to reach Dominique Madeleine xxxx who never responded again. I quickly alerted my bank to oppose my €160 transfer. Sorry, this procedure is impossible.
thank you for your post that comforted me in my doubt ...
Following an ad on Le Bon Coin, I had the same thing today with DHL Express and DPD Express, unbelievable. I still can't believe it happened twice in one day. I think it's the same person using two different names. Luckily, I have a principle of never giving out my credit card number online, whether the site is secure or not.
Today, I received a dubious buyer of this kind as well. A first message expressing interest in an item priced at €80 and a second one providing the email address along with a cash mandate procedure because the person supposedly lives too far away. Well, the mere fact that they want to buy from me for €80 without coming to see the item in person is already suspicious...
Here’s the message copied and pasted in case any potential reader looks into this page:
" Hello,
After analyzing your article and the price, given the good condition of the item, I confirm the purchase.
I propose to send you an express cash mandate letter via DHL, meaning I will send you a cash mandate letter via DHL with cash inside an envelope and a DHL agent will deliver it to your home, and once you have received the cash at your home, the same agent from the DHL pick-up service will take care of collecting the package during the handover. If that suits you.
I will send you the cash mandate from a DHL agency, as I would like to finalize the sale in person by appointment, but due to the distance, it is impossible for me. So I am sending you an express cash mandate letter via DHL.
Thank you for understanding this and keeping me informed! "