Western Digital 500 GB over Ethernet on my Freebox

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I have a Western Digital external hard drive 500 GB connected via Ethernet behind my Freebox. How do I configure my router in relation to my external hard drive? What ports does it use? Should I assign a random port number? Or is there a specific port?

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  1. Ludo
     
    Well I did it!

    I rerouted the UDP ports 137 and 138 to the IP of my MBW as well as the TCP port 139, and now I can access my hard drive remotely from outside my network!

    So to go a bit against several messages I’ve seen, I’m VERY happy with this hard drive:
    To access it from inside my network
    - I plugged my hard drive into my Freebox with the provided cable, and to power
    - I didn’t install anything
    => I access my MBW at the address \\mybookworld
    => I create folders and modify access rights via the http interface http://mybookworld
    To access it from outside my network
    - I configured my router (Freebox) to always assign the same IP address to my MBW (I used the MAC address on the label)
    - I rerouted UDP ports 137, 138, TCP 139 to the MBW IP
    - I rerouted a port xxx to the MBW’s TCP port 80
    => I access my MBW at the address \\<publicipaddress />=> I create folders and modify access rights via the interface http://<publicIPAddress>:xxx
    BONUS: I can access my music and my videos!

    Regarding speed, going through the network isn’t comparable to USB2, but that’s not a problem for me, I’m just a private individual.
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    1. cyrus
       
      slut ludo i got your trick/manipulation working but when you say \\<adresseIPpublique> what is that ????
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    2. cyrus > Ludo
       
      re
      thank you for your guidance but I have a problem when I type my real IP address for Freebox I land in the My Book World Edition configuration manager how to access my created folders thank you to you
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    3. cyrus > Ludo
       
      I also have Vista but also another PC with XP; I need to be able to see my folders, it would be very useful, especially remotely.

      connection with home office for my personal folders; when I type http://public-address okay I see the manager; how to see the rest of my folders
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    4. Ludo > cyrus
       
      If you land on the config console it’s because you’re typing the address "xx.xx.xx.xx" or "http://xx.xx.xx.xx" (and you’ve forwarded port 80 from your Freebox to port 80 on your MBW) even though I indicated you should use the address "\\xx.xx.xx.xx"

      - if you enter nothing or http, the browser will look for a web page
      - if you put \\ in front it is a computer (file sharing)

      However, this only works with IE. otherwise you can always do (on XP) click "Start" then "Run..." and there you enter the address "\\xx.xx.xx.xx"

      PS: I remind you that xx.xx.xx.xx corresponds to the public IP address of your Freebox
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    5. cyrus > Ludo
       
      Thank you, I can see my folders, but a small question: is it normal that my folders are empty in My Book but the files are there, and the IP address isn’t there either, what do you think? And for my IP cam, what should I do?
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  2. totof
     
    In order to access its WD NAS hard drive remotely, you need to configure certain NetBIOS ports on the Livebox and it is also advisable to assign a static IP to the NAS drive and to create an account on DYNDNS.

    We will start by assigning a fixed IP address to the NAS NAS. The Livebox assigns the first dynamic IP address as 192.168.1.10, so you must choose an address from the range 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.9 since 192.168.1.1 is reserved by default for the box.

    To open certain ports you need to go to "LAN Servers" then add the NetBIOS ports:

    Add port 137 UDP then port 138 also UDP, then to finish port 139 TCP, always specifying the local IP address as the NAS NAS configured beforehand.

    Afterwards, the most annoying thing to access your NAS hard drive from outside is knowing its public IP address since it changes all the time. To remedy this problem, the Livebox allows communication with a website that lets you assign a name to your IP address. This site is called DynDNS, it keeps the public IP address updated at all times and maps it to the name you assign. To do this you must go to the site www.dyndns.com and create your account (it's free). Once the account is created you must go into the box in "Advanced Configuration" then ""network"" then "Dyndns" enter the name of the account created on the DynDNS site, the password as well as the host name to be updated.

    Finally, to finish, when connecting remotely to our DDNAS you must go to "My Computer", "Tools" "Map network drive" then in Folder type \\Name_account_created_on_dyndns.@dyndns\nom_du_partage

    There you go, I hope my post will be clear enough, enjoy this tip because everything here is free, bye bye the Western software.
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    1. phi
       
      Hello Toto, I followed your instructions scrupulously, and I was horrified to realize that the public folder could be accessed from anywhere without any password, simply by typing the drive address.
      I had configured the users on this folder.

      How can I make access to my files more secure.
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    2. didierhagcam
       
      I have an external hard drive and when I follow your data scrupulously, I land on the hard drive's configuration page and not on the internal data.

      Why.

      Thank you for helping

      Didier
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  3. Ambryo Posted messages 54 Status Member 2
     
    no normally you can put only one external hard drive afterwards it may be possible but I couldn't tell you
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  4. pascalhoubre Posted messages 1 Status Member
     
    Hi,
    I installed the same hard drive as you.
    But I’m stuck on one point.
    Maybe you can help me.
    When you’re on the hard drive’s homepage, you have to enter a name and password specific to the hard drive (well, during the first use)
    for your case what did you enter?
    I can’t find anything in the documentation.
    Thanks in advance for your reply.
    Best regards.
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    1. Chti22
       
      Indeed, it is not indicated in the paper documentation provided but in the complete documentation on Wester Digital's site.
      login: admin
      password: 123456
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    2. luis
       
      You don’t have to include the password and your name, logically without a router it should recognize it as if you installed a USB key sitout, the password is only so that you can connect yourself outside of your home.
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  5. gérard
     
    I also have a Freebox and a WD MyBook World Edition 2 (ethernet) and I can’t see it on the network...

    Is a router absolutely required?

    If so, how to configure the Freebox?

    Thanks for your help, I’m a bit lost
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    1. fmarot
       
      It is not strictly necessary to have a router, but a DHCP server (which is included in most routers).
      If your FreeBox is not in router mode but in modem mode, or if your computer is connected via USB, it won’t work.
      You need:
      1 - to be connected by Ethernet or WiFi to the FreeBox
      2 - that the FreeBox is in router mode (the DHCP server is automatically activated), (for switching the FreeBox to router mode, it is explained on the Free account management website)
      once the MyBookWorld starts, the FreeBox assigns it an IP address automatically (normally the first in its range or the second if the first is already assigned to the PC).
      in IE type for example "http://192.168.1.50/" if 192.168.1.50 is the address assigned by the FreeBox to the MBW.
      from here it’s enough to read and configure (top right you can choose the language...)
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    2. DC
       
      Hello,

      I also have a few issues with my WD MyBookWorld 500GB external hard drive

      It seems that in order to use it you absolutely have to install mionet ... the only problem is that doing so completely cripples my Free connection, i.e. I can no longer browse the internet, so I can't even create a mionet account or even see my drive in My Computer etc ... I have the same problem whether in Ethernet or USB 2, and I tried plugging it into my computer and on the Freebox.

      I'm not a networking expert but it seems to be a problem with the address.

      Can someone help?!

      Thanks,
      G
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    3. fmarot > DC
       
      An address issue, yes by consequence.
      your FreeBox is in modem mode, or my computer above.
      no, it is not essential to install MioNet, I did not install it and since I only use the MBW on a local network, I will probably never install it.
      for information it is clearly written in the documentation that the USB port only allows connecting ONE HARD DRIVE, and not the disk on a computer.
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    4. DC > fmarot
       
      Thank you for your response. My WD hard drive is now connected via Ethernet to my Freebox, which is in router mode. It thus appears as another computer in the workgroup. However, it is not possible to see the disk size, nor to see the drive in This PC/My Computer... Is it possible to assign a drive letter to this drive? Thank you, D
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    5. k > DC
       
      Could you give a rough idea of transfer speeds, please? In write, and also in read!! please, thanks
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  6. k
     
    Nice, thanks for all these info, I have one last question.

    Can I connect the MyBook directly to my PC (without a router), i.e., with gigabit Ethernet on both sides, without installing any software, except maybe just drivers?, and thus benefit from the 1 Gb/s theoretical max?

    In short, can you connect it directly to the PC (to the Ethernet port), as you would with a USB/FireWire disk (on the appropriate ports), and expect the same level of performance as those, if not higher (+400 Mb/s)?

    I hope I’ve been clear and precise, thanks in advance!
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    1. fmarot
       
      Absolutely, the MBW’s Ethernet interface can be plugged directly into the PC, but performance won’t be better. I’ve run tests using a Gigabit Switch 3Com 3870 (an expensive monster) (the one in the box...)
      So for direct connection there’s no problem, you just need to configure the MBW with a static IP or have a DHCP server on the PC.
      For performance I strongly recommend the MyBookPro with FireWire 800: almost 48 MB/s in bursts!!!
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    2. Sebwca
       
      hi everyone :)

      i’m reviving the conversation because i have exactly the same small detail missing to get my installation working!
      I have a MBW connected to a neufbox router. With the Mionet software, i can see the MBW indeed appears as a K: drive in my workstation. However, as soon as i disconnect Mionet, the drive no longer appears on the network. so it’s not on the local network!
      When i go to my browser and type the IP address assigned by my 9box to my MWB, i access the Western Digital software. I switch it to French ... but after that i’m stuck! i don’t know what to do, neither in the software, nor afterwards on my PC to make the hard drive appear.

      fmarot, if you have 5 minutes to lend me a hand, i saw that you managed to troubleshoot the same kind of problem! but i must be a bit more zero than average because i can’t manage on my own !!!!


      thanks!
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    3. Sebwca > fmarot
       
      fmarot! help me! I have a problem with installing a MWB, if you go through the forum! thank you!
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    4. fmarot > Sebwca
       
      Hi,
      the MBW operates in Samba (i.e. like Windows) so you should proceed in the same way as between two computers:
      1 - there must be the same users created on the MBW and on the PC,
      1b - users must have a password (identical is better) if the PCs are running XP,
      2 - you need to create a share and grant the users read or write rights

      1 - in the MBW (Web interface): go to "File sharing" -> "User management" -> "Create a user".
      at this point if shares have already been created it is possible to grant read or write, otherwise only Public appears
      2 - still in the MBW (Web interface): go to "File sharing" -> "Add a shared folder" follow the wizard (give a share name, specify where it is located, then grant rights to the users)

      Then on the PC a simple right-click on the "Network Places" icon -> "Map network drive" allows you to connect the share to a drive letter (e.g.: Drive Z:, Folder \\MyBookWorld\travail)

      There you go, now you just have to fill it...
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    5. Ludo > Sebwca
       
      Hello, I have a MBW 500Go but I would like to know how the router should be configured to access it from the outside. I think a port forwarding is necessary, right?
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  7. fmarot
     
    Hello,

    indeed there’s one small thing missing: if Windows says "Limited connectivity," it means your laptop also has a dynamic IP. You need to assign it a static IP, for example 192.168.0.10, with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0, a DNS server, and a default gateway—the same as when the laptop is connected to the Freebox (Go to Start -> Run: "cmd" and run the command "ipconfig /all" to see the network configuration automatically assigned by the Freebox).

    Once the PC and the MBW are on static IPs, you can connect to it without the Freebox...

    And when you reconnect to the Freebox, since you have correctly set the gateway, you can browse without changing anything.
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  8. Ludo
     
    Is it possible to access it from the outside without going through WD?

    Otherwise I don’t have the means to pay for a LS or any other method other than ADSL, but I don’t mind having subpar performance as long as I can access it. So has anyone managed to make their MBW hard drive act as a “network drive” accessible from the outside? NetBIOS sharing I think.

    What configuration should be done on the router?
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    1. fmarot
       
      Good evening,

      it's not a matter of performance but of reliability: if you open a Word document (or anything) on an unstable line and Word gets tangled up (which happens often) I recommend having an up-to-date backup . . .

      as for the ports I don't know them by heart (off the top of my head 137 to 139 in TCP/UDP, but nothing certain). But if your router has a DMZ, put the MBW in it.

      François.
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  9. Ludo
     
    Actually I'm looking to do that to access whatever I save anytime. The goal isn't to work (Word doc open). Then it's a method that doesn't require installing anything (WD, etc.), so I prefer it.

    In any case I'll try

    On the router side, I have a Freebox, so it shows me a DMZ IP but I don't really understand what that means. What does that change?
    Do you think someone could hack the MBW and then come mess around on my network?
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  10. whacks
     
    In plain: ce truc plastique est beau mais est super inutile ? sauf pour une entreprise ou bien un mec qui ne sait pas s'en servir ?

    Donc si j'ai bien compris je dois mettre ma 9box en routeur et ensuite, je sais pas trop.

    Je pense que je vais prendre un bon tournevis, et faire exploser le boîtier du HDD, le récupérer et le mettre dans un boîtier à 5€, au moins ça marchera.
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    1. fmarot
       
      Very constructive comment. It depends on the reason it was purchased... I bought it to have accessible storage regardless of the computer being on or off at home. It does this very well, even if slowly for now. Also I realize that with a bit of tinkering you can access the Linux that’s on it, and what’s more: the Linux is on the disk and not on a flash drive, so you can install almost anything on it, provided you have a minimum of Unix knowledge and the courage to try... Sure, this product is imperfect; never mind, let’s improve it. François
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  11. whacks
     
    This plastic thing that looks like a Mac chest is certainly smart, but unfortunately some people who think they’re giving a useful gift to someone are very mistaken! why? because the person I know doesn’t master computing, doesn’t know what LINUX means, can’t tell the difference between a crossed cable and a straight one and the worst of all!!, it’s the WD installation guide, I’ve never seen anything as incomprehensible.

    In short, are buyers really warned about what they’re buying? or once again they’re sold something nice that ends up in the trash?

    For a house with several PCs it’s very useful but can you store MP3s, MOVIES?????

    or is it only a data or multimedia FTP server????

    Sorry but I couldn’t find a reliable place that could give me this info? thanks!

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    1. fmarot
       
      It doesn’t particularly seem to me that customers are misled about the merchandise, but do customers actually know what they want to buy, and aren’t the sellers more like thieves who don’t know their products but only their commissions...

      For someone who only masters the art of double-clicking in computing, this tinkering is not within reach...

      It does very well what it is intended for (I read the WD website before buying it, I admit I am an exception: people go to the supermarket or Fnac and pick a product off the shelf without even sometimes asking a seller for their opinion, which often isn’t worth much). It is written in black and white that it does not share audio and video files on the Internet. There is no scam.

      It shares all types of files on a local network.

      Even my little sister managed to install it, though her only computer skill is using Internet Explorer and Messenger...

      The MBW does not include FTP, it does Windows-style sharing.

      After a few simple searches, I found quite a few people who have customized their MBWs ( activating the WEB server, SSH, installing PHP5, ...) I am studying the installation of TwonkyVision to make it a UPnP server... Still need to speak English.

      François
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  12. whacks
     
    So if I understand correctly, can we just use it as a basic external HDD? store any type of data on it. And especially go through the hassle of connecting it to our router, without ever being able to carry it around during a LAN or other? Knowing that you can access it via the web?

    I think I’m going to go with the screwdriver. Arff, if all buyers went online from time to time like on this site, they would know what they’re buying. I will never invest in such a product because I have no use for it. Later if I have 35 PCs at home.

    lol for the SSH, PHP5, all the noobs of friends I have, don’t even know the SHIFT key on a keyboard!!
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    1. fmarot
       
      Yes, we can simply use it as a basic network hard drive, it can store any type of data. It can be plugged into the PC without a router, and you can even carry it wherever you want. For web access, there is an additional restriction on audio and video files.

      When you want a bare hard drive without a case, the best quality/price ratio has always been the bare drive; likewise, if you want an external USB drive, why complain that a network drive is too expensive for the features it offers.

      I can already picture a mover going back to Maseratti to complain that the loading speed is insufficient for the price paid...
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  13. Ludo
     
    Hi Whacks,

    Don't worry, the majority of people who buy without researching aren’t you—you're proof of that. Aside from its “slowness,” I don’t see what else you could fault it for, but at that price I get my money's worth. It’s rare to write just to say everything’s okay, that’s all.

    To set it up, nothing easier! I plugged it into power and my router, typed \\mybookworld in IE and it was done, I was connected. I didn’t even need to install anything (I try to skip that whenever I can).

    It performs its functions very well.

    Then you might want more “exotic” things, but most people don’t even think about it.
    - Access from outside: you have to install the provided software and it seems to work, or do like me and hack around.
    - Not connecting to a local network: static IP configuration, ...
    - install a web server, ... tinker with Linux, ....

    For tinkerers, FMAROT, where did you find it? Can we change the primary purpose of the USB port to plug in a printer? :s You never know :D

    Wouldn’t you like a translation of what you find or don’t, or a special section “MBW tinkering” in French—that could be nice, right?
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  14. tipitipi
     
    Hi, I read this very interesting discussion and I’m adding a new question: I bought the MBW 500 GB as “refurbished.” It turns out the disk name has been changed, the workgroup is called MAISON, I spotted two shared folders PUBLIC and PARTAGE (are they there by default?) and I can’t log in through the web interface. I tried to follow the reset password steps in the manual (admin/123456) but it doesn’t work. Did I do it wrong?
    Do you have any ideas please ??
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    1. fmarot
       
      Hello,
      PUBLIC is present by default but not PARTAGE. As for settings like IP address, login/password, workgroup: you can reset with a paperclip in the small hole at the back. I tested it; you need to keep it pressed for a few seconds after turning it on...
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  15. cyrus
     
    Thank you again, it works very well. Apparently I would like to add my IP camera from home; how can I get the image and is it the same procedure

    thank you again.
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  16. solmyr
     
    Hi Ludo,

    I have a solid internal setup and I also did the same as you externally: redirecting the 3 ports plus port 80. I started from 666 to redirect to 80 in my config.

    Naturally it's impossible to map a network drive remotely or even access the Web interface.

    I did specify the MAC address to always have the same IP.

    Any idea?
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    1. Ludo
       
      You redirected the external port 666 to port 80 on your MBW and you configured a permanent DHCP lease and it doesn't work? Are you using a Freebox? If so you made a mistake or forgot to reboot.
      As much as the network drive mapping may seem capricious, there’s no issue with the web interface.

      Have you checked internally that your MBW had the correct IP address by trying to connect to it with the address \\ ?
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  17. solmyr
     
    Yes, absolutely.

    I set the IP 192.168.0.159 with the MAC address on a permanent lease.
    This morning from my home sweet home, it worked without any issue.

    For the 4 other ports, this is what it shows on the Freebox:

    137 udp 192.168.0.159 137
    138 udp 192.168.0.159 138
    139 udp 192.168.0.159 139
    666 udp 192.168.0.159 80

    That seems correct to me, you agree?

    Otherwise I did it in DOS:

    ping mybookworld and I got 192.168.0.159 that answered.

    So both from the external IP and:666 and from mybookworld, I was able to reach the web interface.

    Is it serious, doc?
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    1. Ludo
       
      The DHCP lease is correct. The problem therefore comes from the router. Is this a typo or did you not pay attention to the protocol? You should have 137 udp 192.168.0.159 137 138 udp 192.168.0.159 138 139 tcp 192.168.0.159 139 666 tcp 192.168.0.159 80
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      1. ben > Ludo
         
        Hello
        I just configured ports 137, 138, 139 and 80.
        I also created a DynDNS address
        external access is fine except that I access the web interface...
        I think my port 80 forwarding isn’t good but I’m struggling to set it up on my Livebox
        could you help me?
        thanks in advance
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      2. fynndel > ben
         
        Hey there
        you need to open a folder in Windows, then add a network drive (Tools/Map Network Drive). choose a letter from the list and in the address field put \\tonadresse.dyndns.org\ (after that, if you have specific folders, you should specify the folder as well)
        I also looked up how to do it, and now I can access it from everywhere (except on a Macintosh, ugh)
        tell me if you managed ;)
        ++ fynndel
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      3. ben > fynndel
         
        Well I just tested at work (by opening an assistant add a network bookmark) and I get an error message: "the folder you entered doesn't seem to be valid. Choose another one."
        I typed "\\monadresse.dyndns.org\dossier" and also "http://monadresse.dyndns.org/dossier" but nothing works.
        is it possible that I’m blocked by the firewall at work?
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      4. fynndel > ben
         
        Do you have a Freebox?
        When I have this kind of problem I restart the Freebox and the modem, and after that it usually works..
        In the Freebox I also filled in the DMZ, the MAC address, etc...
        I don’t know if you did that too...

        otherwise did you try without adding a folder?
        it could clash at your work site, to be checked..
        ++
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  18. solmyr
     
    Sorry:

    Yes I use a Freebox and I have indeed rebooted the beast.
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