Scam car purchase leboncoin +cash mandate
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Hello, I am writing this email to warn you about car sale advertisements on Le Bon Coin.
Indeed, my husband and I were looking for an inexpensive vehicle as a backup.
We came across an ad for a GOLF IV at €2000, a great car with 116,000 km, no work needed, everything "in perfect condition".
I immediately sent an email because the ad was really enticing.
I received a reply a week later.
The description of the car was impeccable.
The person told me that he was no longer in France for work for 9 months, so he had entrusted the vehicle to a mechanic who takes care of storage and delivery of the car.
He then asked me to provide my address + phone number.
Then he told me that the vehicle would indeed be delivered, but I needed to pay in advance by urgent cash transfer.
And that as soon as the delivery person was there with the vehicle, I needed to call this man to give him the urgent cash transfer number so he could collect the money.
This guy called me after I told him it was good, I did the urgent cash transfer (I did a cash transfer of €20 to see what would happen next)
He asked me weird questions and wanted to know:
- How much in fees did you pay?
- How many urgent cash transfers did you make? (the limit for a cash transfer = €1500) so one cash transfer for €1500 and one cash transfer for €500.
He then asked me to scan the cash transfer and I needed to hide the identification number of the transfer so he wouldn’t collect that money.
On top of that, he asked me to put the cash transfer in the name of a Lavergne Nicole.
He is in Africa because his phone number starts with 0022 … his name is BAUDON SERGE
I told him I didn’t have a scanner.
He then asked me to connect to a La Poste website: laposte.eu.mn
to check if I had really made this urgent cash transfer so he wouldn’t send the delivery person for nothing.
So I made an urgent cash transfer of €20 to see how this scam would unfold.
I then went to the site laposte.eu.mn, I entered the identification numbers but it didn’t work.
He asked me to try several times without success.
He then said okay ma’am, I trust you....
the delivery was supposed to take place today at 12 pm on September 16, 2009.
The delivery person would come with a truck and the car, I could test it, etc., etc...... you would go together to the police station to do the paperwork, etc.....
It is 4:17 pm and I am still waiting for the vehicle............... and strangely I am no longer receiving calls from him.......
BE CAREFUL OF THIS TYPE OF SCAM
I TALKED ABOUT IT TO LA POSTE AND THEY NO LONGER ACCEPT URGENT CASH TRANSFERS FOR ONLINE PURCHASES.
Because if the man has the urgent cash transfer number, the trap closes and goodbye to your money
Please be careful!!!!!!!!!
Indeed, my husband and I were looking for an inexpensive vehicle as a backup.
We came across an ad for a GOLF IV at €2000, a great car with 116,000 km, no work needed, everything "in perfect condition".
I immediately sent an email because the ad was really enticing.
I received a reply a week later.
The description of the car was impeccable.
The person told me that he was no longer in France for work for 9 months, so he had entrusted the vehicle to a mechanic who takes care of storage and delivery of the car.
He then asked me to provide my address + phone number.
Then he told me that the vehicle would indeed be delivered, but I needed to pay in advance by urgent cash transfer.
And that as soon as the delivery person was there with the vehicle, I needed to call this man to give him the urgent cash transfer number so he could collect the money.
This guy called me after I told him it was good, I did the urgent cash transfer (I did a cash transfer of €20 to see what would happen next)
He asked me weird questions and wanted to know:
- How much in fees did you pay?
- How many urgent cash transfers did you make? (the limit for a cash transfer = €1500) so one cash transfer for €1500 and one cash transfer for €500.
He then asked me to scan the cash transfer and I needed to hide the identification number of the transfer so he wouldn’t collect that money.
On top of that, he asked me to put the cash transfer in the name of a Lavergne Nicole.
He is in Africa because his phone number starts with 0022 … his name is BAUDON SERGE
I told him I didn’t have a scanner.
He then asked me to connect to a La Poste website: laposte.eu.mn
to check if I had really made this urgent cash transfer so he wouldn’t send the delivery person for nothing.
So I made an urgent cash transfer of €20 to see how this scam would unfold.
I then went to the site laposte.eu.mn, I entered the identification numbers but it didn’t work.
He asked me to try several times without success.
He then said okay ma’am, I trust you....
the delivery was supposed to take place today at 12 pm on September 16, 2009.
The delivery person would come with a truck and the car, I could test it, etc., etc...... you would go together to the police station to do the paperwork, etc.....
It is 4:17 pm and I am still waiting for the vehicle............... and strangely I am no longer receiving calls from him.......
BE CAREFUL OF THIS TYPE OF SCAM
I TALKED ABOUT IT TO LA POSTE AND THEY NO LONGER ACCEPT URGENT CASH TRANSFERS FOR ONLINE PURCHASES.
Because if the man has the urgent cash transfer number, the trap closes and goodbye to your money
Please be careful!!!!!!!!!
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Hello
The golden rule is mainly to not buy a vehicle without having seen and tried it first. In fact, that's what Le Bon Coin recommends.
See you later
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A double heart that only beats for Slash17
The golden rule is mainly to not buy a vehicle without having seen and tried it first. In fact, that's what Le Bon Coin recommends.
See you later
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Windows XP, IE7 ... and
A double heart that only beats for Slash17
No no, but I got the 20 euros back, he didn’t touch anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a joke!!!! And what else, I haven’t shared any codes with him, nothing at all!!
I came across an interesting ad and I'm also being asked for my contact information, etc. It states that it will be delivered, but where I'm stuck is that he claims to have paid everything for the delivery to the potential buyer (he's good, he can guess the rates without knowing where the car will go!). I've seen several ads with the same type of vehicle, at least the same brand and the same mileage, so I've blocked that. I asked for his license plate number, and he responds by asking me to give my contact information! Amazing
And for a so-called great medical practitioner, he makes huge mistakes, like he's used an online translator!
And for a so-called great medical practitioner, he makes huge mistakes, like he's used an online translator!
My delivery is becoming clearer, it arrives at 5:30 PM. The delivery driver just called me, and I obviously need to give him a cash mandate. I just told him that I already have a certified check from my bank and that I therefore won’t be doing a mandate, and that he could call my bank from my place. I am eagerly awaiting the next steps.
And here for the same car
It was on sale yesterday in 2 additional departments: 19 and 31
Hello
I just read your message regarding your proposal about my car.
The car is still available for 1300€ and has a regular maintenance record. Before putting it up for sale, I had another technical inspection done. It's a first-hand Peugeot 306 2.0 HDi XS Pack 3-door, with 105,300 km, fuel: diesel
It's in perfect condition, no scratches or dents, the bodywork is impeccable for the year 2000
It has no mechanical or electronic issues. I changed the timing belt during the last technical inspection. It includes several options, some of which are:
( Bodywork / Exterior Electric heated mirrors Full paint job )
( Security / Anti-theft ABS Airbags Rain sensor )
( Comfort / Climate control.. Radio CD MP3 )
( Others Fog lights ( Repairs during the last CT / - suspension.. exhaust. shock absorbers. recent distribution belt ) So
You will have no additional expenses to anticipate regarding the condition of the car. The sale is initiated due to my deteriorating health. I have currently moved from my house in France to my country of origin for treatment and to be closer to my family. The car is currently at the parking lot of the agency that handled my move. If we reach an agreement, I will put you in contact with this agency, which will take care of delivering the car to your home. For this, I will need your address as follows: ( Name; First name; city; postal code; street address and mobile phone. )
I am currently reachable at 0022 997 095 181
You have attached photos of the car
Best regards.
Campre.marina
IP Africa of course
I still believe they discovered that we knew.
In any case, we now have the means to corner them.
We must absolutely respond as much as possible to cost them as much as possible (cybercafés)
Do not give your real addresses
It was on sale yesterday in 2 additional departments: 19 and 31
Hello
I just read your message regarding your proposal about my car.
The car is still available for 1300€ and has a regular maintenance record. Before putting it up for sale, I had another technical inspection done. It's a first-hand Peugeot 306 2.0 HDi XS Pack 3-door, with 105,300 km, fuel: diesel
It's in perfect condition, no scratches or dents, the bodywork is impeccable for the year 2000
It has no mechanical or electronic issues. I changed the timing belt during the last technical inspection. It includes several options, some of which are:
( Bodywork / Exterior Electric heated mirrors Full paint job )
( Security / Anti-theft ABS Airbags Rain sensor )
( Comfort / Climate control.. Radio CD MP3 )
( Others Fog lights ( Repairs during the last CT / - suspension.. exhaust. shock absorbers. recent distribution belt ) So
You will have no additional expenses to anticipate regarding the condition of the car. The sale is initiated due to my deteriorating health. I have currently moved from my house in France to my country of origin for treatment and to be closer to my family. The car is currently at the parking lot of the agency that handled my move. If we reach an agreement, I will put you in contact with this agency, which will take care of delivering the car to your home. For this, I will need your address as follows: ( Name; First name; city; postal code; street address and mobile phone. )
I am currently reachable at 0022 997 095 181
You have attached photos of the car
Best regards.
Campre.marina
IP Africa of course
I still believe they discovered that we knew.
In any case, we now have the means to corner them.
We must absolutely respond as much as possible to cost them as much as possible (cybercafés)
Do not give your real addresses
Every time the same process:
- a correspondent by email (whom we think is from France, but is actually from Benin or elsewhere...)
- a so-called delivery person with a mobile number
- a cash request from the correspondent against delivery...
One question: is the mobile number starting with 06... necessarily from France? Yes? No?
- a correspondent by email (whom we think is from France, but is actually from Benin or elsewhere...)
- a so-called delivery person with a mobile number
- a cash request from the correspondent against delivery...
One question: is the mobile number starting with 06... necessarily from France? Yes? No?
Well, he did get 20 euros after all... and in his country, that's not bad...
Of course, he would have preferred the 2000 euros, which he wouldn't have had any trouble withdrawing... even without the identification number (MTCN), because only your name and the amount sent are needed...
Of course, he would have preferred the 2000 euros, which he wouldn't have had any trouble withdrawing... even without the identification number (MTCN), because only your name and the amount sent are needed...
I am copying his message because it is worth its weight in gold... And if it can prevent others from getting scammed!
Hello
I received your email since it was sent, but I had to take a few hours to reflect because there have been several interested parties up to this day, and I also want to express my apologies for this delay in response as my wife and I are currently in Burkina Faso for just a wedding anniversary celebration for 15 years of marriage; you should understand if you have ever been married.
But before reading and even before posting this ad on this site, we told ourselves that we would undoubtedly be dealing with untrustworthy people because, as you should understand, this motorhome is worth a lot to my brother and our family. My wife even advised me against placing the ad because we are really wary of scams on the internet and especially of resellers, which explains the removal from the site as we received too many interested parties.
But after reading your email and comparing it to others, I immediately thought that you are genuinely someone trustworthy in need; perhaps I am mistaken, but I do not hesitate to take the risk because if what you say is true, it would really be a pleasure to conclude this sale with you and to contribute to the realization of your dreams because in this life, nothing is by chance; it simply requires having faith in God and keeping hope, being patient because God's time is the best.
Before our departure, everything was already planned for the delivery to be made throughout France; it would simply require you to send me your home contact details such as:
Name…………………………..
First name……………………….
Street……………………………
Postal code……………………
Country …………………………..
Phone……………………..
So that I can pass them on to the carrier who will contact you and will arrange an appointment for the delivery at your home in order to establish a verification and a trial before the purchase.
However, regarding my payment method, as you should surely understand given our geographical situation, the payment would be an international transfer on delivery, meaning that as soon as the motorhome is in front of you and after all your checks at the prefecture or at the nearest police station, you will hand over the receipt in exchange for the motorhome.
We plan to stay there for a little while
I am leaving you a copy of my ID card and that of my wife for more confidence; yours would please me as an idea to better connect with you.
Waiting for your response
Best regards!!!
Hello
I received your email since it was sent, but I had to take a few hours to reflect because there have been several interested parties up to this day, and I also want to express my apologies for this delay in response as my wife and I are currently in Burkina Faso for just a wedding anniversary celebration for 15 years of marriage; you should understand if you have ever been married.
But before reading and even before posting this ad on this site, we told ourselves that we would undoubtedly be dealing with untrustworthy people because, as you should understand, this motorhome is worth a lot to my brother and our family. My wife even advised me against placing the ad because we are really wary of scams on the internet and especially of resellers, which explains the removal from the site as we received too many interested parties.
But after reading your email and comparing it to others, I immediately thought that you are genuinely someone trustworthy in need; perhaps I am mistaken, but I do not hesitate to take the risk because if what you say is true, it would really be a pleasure to conclude this sale with you and to contribute to the realization of your dreams because in this life, nothing is by chance; it simply requires having faith in God and keeping hope, being patient because God's time is the best.
Before our departure, everything was already planned for the delivery to be made throughout France; it would simply require you to send me your home contact details such as:
Name…………………………..
First name……………………….
Street……………………………
Postal code……………………
Country …………………………..
Phone……………………..
So that I can pass them on to the carrier who will contact you and will arrange an appointment for the delivery at your home in order to establish a verification and a trial before the purchase.
However, regarding my payment method, as you should surely understand given our geographical situation, the payment would be an international transfer on delivery, meaning that as soon as the motorhome is in front of you and after all your checks at the prefecture or at the nearest police station, you will hand over the receipt in exchange for the motorhome.
We plan to stay there for a little while
I am leaving you a copy of my ID card and that of my wife for more confidence; yours would please me as an idea to better connect with you.
Waiting for your response
Best regards!!!
Another scam on Le Bon Coin!!!!!!
Hello
Thank you for your quick response.
DESCRIPTION OF THE VEHICLE FOR SALE
VW California Comfortline
Mileage: 36,800 km Power: 96 kW / 131 hp DIN Fuel: Diesel Green sticker: 4 (Green) Registration date: 06/2007
ABS, Tow hitch, Awning, Maintenance log, Auxiliary heating, Diesel with particulate filter, Power steering, ESP, Central locking, GPS, Cruise control, Heated seats
It is registered in FRANCE with a French registration document
It is available for sale here in London where I currently work
as a mobile distributor, I often don't have enough time
I am selling it at this low price compared to the market value because left-hand drive vehicles registered in France are not welcomed here due to too many taxes that fall back on me, I prefer to sell it in France to complete the purchase of a used vehicle here.
Here are some taxes I am facing to drive here in London
Transit plate tax with insurance
European conformity certificate tax
Left-hand drive option tax, LHD (left-hand drive), then the tax clearance certificate
I bought it from a professional seller in France, first owner
I will be on leave for 48 hours during the week so I can bring it to you wherever you are in France
or through a transport agency to secure the sale and avoid dealing with someone unreliable or anything else
I certify that all the characteristics presented are accurate as it is in very good condition and perfectly roadworthy, no expenses to foresee,
superb metallic bodywork, the tires have less than 5,000 km, complete and up-to-date maintenance log, full service history, manual transmission
So if you are ready to make the purchase, please provide your address in the following order for delivery so I can confirm the appointment to you.
I will bring you the papers (particularly the logbook, invoices, registration document,...)
NAME ..................................................
FIRST NAME ...........................................
COUNTRY .........................................................
CITY OR VILLAGE .......................................
NEIGHBORHOOD AND APARTMENT NUMBER ........................................
PHONE NUMBER ..............................................
No need to worry about the condition of the vehicle
In case the vehicle does not meet your request upon delivery, I will leave with it without any problem
I am available all the time.
Mr: BENOIT JOSE
He asked me to pay in cash upon delivery of the vehicle at home, of course!
Hello
Thank you for your quick response.
DESCRIPTION OF THE VEHICLE FOR SALE
VW California Comfortline
Mileage: 36,800 km Power: 96 kW / 131 hp DIN Fuel: Diesel Green sticker: 4 (Green) Registration date: 06/2007
ABS, Tow hitch, Awning, Maintenance log, Auxiliary heating, Diesel with particulate filter, Power steering, ESP, Central locking, GPS, Cruise control, Heated seats
It is registered in FRANCE with a French registration document
It is available for sale here in London where I currently work
as a mobile distributor, I often don't have enough time
I am selling it at this low price compared to the market value because left-hand drive vehicles registered in France are not welcomed here due to too many taxes that fall back on me, I prefer to sell it in France to complete the purchase of a used vehicle here.
Here are some taxes I am facing to drive here in London
Transit plate tax with insurance
European conformity certificate tax
Left-hand drive option tax, LHD (left-hand drive), then the tax clearance certificate
I bought it from a professional seller in France, first owner
I will be on leave for 48 hours during the week so I can bring it to you wherever you are in France
or through a transport agency to secure the sale and avoid dealing with someone unreliable or anything else
I certify that all the characteristics presented are accurate as it is in very good condition and perfectly roadworthy, no expenses to foresee,
superb metallic bodywork, the tires have less than 5,000 km, complete and up-to-date maintenance log, full service history, manual transmission
So if you are ready to make the purchase, please provide your address in the following order for delivery so I can confirm the appointment to you.
I will bring you the papers (particularly the logbook, invoices, registration document,...)
NAME ..................................................
FIRST NAME ...........................................
COUNTRY .........................................................
CITY OR VILLAGE .......................................
NEIGHBORHOOD AND APARTMENT NUMBER ........................................
PHONE NUMBER ..............................................
No need to worry about the condition of the vehicle
In case the vehicle does not meet your request upon delivery, I will leave with it without any problem
I am available all the time.
Mr: BENOIT JOSE
He asked me to pay in cash upon delivery of the vehicle at home, of course!
I played the fool: I asked my scammer if it was possible to issue a bank check or a transfer in the presence of his "carrier." Here is the response:
Hello
I have just read your message and I thank you while presenting my apologies for this delayed response.
To start, I really cannot accept a transfer because someone close to me was a victim of account diversion in this way. I completely understand your concern, but rest assured, trust is what guarantees it; have confidence in yourself and your instincts because a child of God will always manage to achieve and realize his dreams.
On the other hand, due to my geographical situation, I cannot accept a check because here in Burkina, only the post office allows for quick cash withdrawal.
So when it comes to liquidity or checks, it would be impossible; I cannot accept an international postal transfer, which must be done before the arrival of the carrier; that is what will guarantee your interest in the motorhome and the availability of funds on your end. From your side, as soon as the delivery person arrives at your home, while carefully keeping the information and the receipt, you will check the papers of the motorhome and hand the receipt and information to the delivery person in exchange for your motorhome after your checks at the police station or the nearest station to your home because my only concern is knowing that upon receipt all the papers are correct as well as its condition, the funds will be available and can be collected by the delivery person, which is why my lawyer advised me this method of payment that suits both of us because it is done under conditions where each one would be sure to have his goods or in the opposite case can easily cancel the operation. Regarding visibility, do not worry; as soon as it is at your home, in case you notice a defect in the engine or other things, you can cancel the transaction and withdraw your money from the post office without any worries since I am the one covering the shipping costs and you have the right to check the condition of the motorhome before committing because no one in this world buys without seeing the merchandise.
The motorhome is really in perfect condition; I guarantee that.
So if you are still interested, as requested, please send me your contact details so that I can pass them on to the carrier who will get in touch with you at the time of delivery.
Name…………………………..
First name……………………….
Street……………………………
Postal code……………………
Country …………………………..
Phone……………………..
Thank you for your understanding, as this is for our mutual benefit.
Best regards!!!
Hello
I have just read your message and I thank you while presenting my apologies for this delayed response.
To start, I really cannot accept a transfer because someone close to me was a victim of account diversion in this way. I completely understand your concern, but rest assured, trust is what guarantees it; have confidence in yourself and your instincts because a child of God will always manage to achieve and realize his dreams.
On the other hand, due to my geographical situation, I cannot accept a check because here in Burkina, only the post office allows for quick cash withdrawal.
So when it comes to liquidity or checks, it would be impossible; I cannot accept an international postal transfer, which must be done before the arrival of the carrier; that is what will guarantee your interest in the motorhome and the availability of funds on your end. From your side, as soon as the delivery person arrives at your home, while carefully keeping the information and the receipt, you will check the papers of the motorhome and hand the receipt and information to the delivery person in exchange for your motorhome after your checks at the police station or the nearest station to your home because my only concern is knowing that upon receipt all the papers are correct as well as its condition, the funds will be available and can be collected by the delivery person, which is why my lawyer advised me this method of payment that suits both of us because it is done under conditions where each one would be sure to have his goods or in the opposite case can easily cancel the operation. Regarding visibility, do not worry; as soon as it is at your home, in case you notice a defect in the engine or other things, you can cancel the transaction and withdraw your money from the post office without any worries since I am the one covering the shipping costs and you have the right to check the condition of the motorhome before committing because no one in this world buys without seeing the merchandise.
The motorhome is really in perfect condition; I guarantee that.
So if you are still interested, as requested, please send me your contact details so that I can pass them on to the carrier who will get in touch with you at the time of delivery.
Name…………………………..
First name……………………….
Street……………………………
Postal code……………………
Country …………………………..
Phone……………………..
Thank you for your understanding, as this is for our mutual benefit.
Best regards!!!
Hello everyone!!
I just bought a Ligier no-license car from 2008 for €1000 on leboncoin.fr and it's the same scenario as yours, but it's a retired national police officer who sold it to me with home delivery, of course. He sent me his French ID card in the attachments; he's a really nice guy. After reading his messages and providing my address, he told me to prepare an urgent cash mandate in the name of the transporter, which I did yesterday. After the mandate, I sent him a confirmation email, and the retired police officer sent me a postal service website: servicepostals.fr to check the mandate tracking, which I did, even though my delivery was at 8 AM today. At 8:05 AM my phone rang, and it was Mr. the police officer making me understand that he was already at my home. It felt like a dream for a Ligier no-license car from 2008 for €1000!! And yes, the car was really there, and I tested and checked it. Then, if I was satisfied, I signed all the papers, and they handed me the two keys for the no-license car. So I see that good deals are always around the corner. I don’t know how you got scammed, but this retired police officer told me that there are always good people selling at very low prices for urgent reasons and that he still has a Renault and many other cars for sale at a super price!!!! ... In any case, I found my seller, a retired police officer, and I’m delighted; I won’t have to worry anymore. Have a good day!
I just bought a Ligier no-license car from 2008 for €1000 on leboncoin.fr and it's the same scenario as yours, but it's a retired national police officer who sold it to me with home delivery, of course. He sent me his French ID card in the attachments; he's a really nice guy. After reading his messages and providing my address, he told me to prepare an urgent cash mandate in the name of the transporter, which I did yesterday. After the mandate, I sent him a confirmation email, and the retired police officer sent me a postal service website: servicepostals.fr to check the mandate tracking, which I did, even though my delivery was at 8 AM today. At 8:05 AM my phone rang, and it was Mr. the police officer making me understand that he was already at my home. It felt like a dream for a Ligier no-license car from 2008 for €1000!! And yes, the car was really there, and I tested and checked it. Then, if I was satisfied, I signed all the papers, and they handed me the two keys for the no-license car. So I see that good deals are always around the corner. I don’t know how you got scammed, but this retired police officer told me that there are always good people selling at very low prices for urgent reasons and that he still has a Renault and many other cars for sale at a super price!!!! ... In any case, I found my seller, a retired police officer, and I’m delighted; I won’t have to worry anymore. Have a good day!
Certainly, there may be cases where it goes well. But it's rare, believe me. Just because it went well for you doesn't mean the system is reliable. Testimonies regarding the mandat-cash system too often reveal that in most cases it involves scams, and I can only advise against this system. Try selling with someone else under the same scenario, and you have a very good chance of losing your money.
Now, it went well for you, that's great. But do be more careful in the future...
Now, it went well for you, that's great. But do be more careful in the future...
For my part, I don't believe it for a second.
Probably one of those crooks who takes us for fools
It would be the first case among all the scams of this type that we know
I requested the verification of the IP address of this message. We'll see if it disappears or not!
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PLEASE MENTION THE EMAIL ADDRESSES AND PHONE NUMBERS OF THESE CROOKS
We will make good use of them (Blacklists)
Probably one of those crooks who takes us for fools
It would be the first case among all the scams of this type that we know
I requested the verification of the IP address of this message. We'll see if it disappears or not!
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PLEASE MENTION THE EMAIL ADDRESSES AND PHONE NUMBERS OF THESE CROOKS
We will make good use of them (Blacklists)
Indeed, the scammer is back. I noticed an ad yesterday for a 307 at a ridiculous price. This offer seemed suspicious to me, and I wondered where the catch was.
No phone number, just an email. I replied yesterday asking for more information. Below you will find the response email I received.
Is there a way to prevent these unscrupulous scammers? In any case, thank you for your messages on the site because they confirmed to me that this story really smelled like a scam!
For your information, here is the email received:
HELLO
I also remind you that I am currently absent for professional reasons and I will not be back right away, which is why it is being sold on the sale site.
My car is currently in NANTES in the 44 with a carrier to whom I have entrusted its maintenance and custody and to whom I have already settled all the possible details since my departure to facilitate the sale. I would ask you to please send me your contact details as follows if you are really interested:
So that I can communicate this to my carrier who is responsible for delivering it to your home; it is in perfect working condition
Complete characteristics
307 XT PREMIUM HDI 2L 110HP DIESEL
5 DOORS
METALLIC GREY
80000 KM
(March 2003)
ALL OPTIONS: ABS, ESP, power steering, side airbags, cruise control, automatic air conditioning, electric windows front and rear, central locking, radio and 6 CD changer on the front with steering wheel controls, automatic headlights, automatic rain sensor, front armrests and central armrest in the back, 1 drawer under the passenger seat.
Technical Control OK
6 MONTH WARRANTY
As for the paperwork, do not worry because when the vehicle is presented to you and you have given your agreement to purchase it after trying it, you will proceed to the signing of the sale documents that I have pre-established before my departure.
To facilitate the transaction, the transporter will present you with the following documents:
- The vehicle registration certificate crossed out and signed (by myself)
- The 3 parts of the cession certificate with the sections concerning me filled out and signed by myself
- The non-pledge certificate corresponding
- The duplicate of the keys
- The valid technical control
- The up-to-date maintenance book
- All the invoices as support....
No repairs to be done, perfectly drivable. I'm letting it go for €3500 including tax, payable in cash upon receipt, and if my car no longer suits you, the transporter would take it back, which I highly doubt anyway. After receiving the additional photos of my car, please contact me if you are really interested or send me your contact details.
If you agree to purchase my car, there is no problem because the transporter is available every day from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. to deliver it to your home. Once your address is given, I will pass it on to the transporter who will be ready to deliver according to your availability. Even tomorrow if you want. Given my absence, I inform you that the transporter is in possession of all the papers, a copy of my ID and my power of attorney for the sales certificate established before my departure and certified by the prefecture.
NO PROBLEMS AND NO OTHER FEES TO EXPECT
I can be reached at 002 29 98 18 53 32 or 002 29 96 39 33 38.
No phone number, just an email. I replied yesterday asking for more information. Below you will find the response email I received.
Is there a way to prevent these unscrupulous scammers? In any case, thank you for your messages on the site because they confirmed to me that this story really smelled like a scam!
For your information, here is the email received:
HELLO
I also remind you that I am currently absent for professional reasons and I will not be back right away, which is why it is being sold on the sale site.
My car is currently in NANTES in the 44 with a carrier to whom I have entrusted its maintenance and custody and to whom I have already settled all the possible details since my departure to facilitate the sale. I would ask you to please send me your contact details as follows if you are really interested:
So that I can communicate this to my carrier who is responsible for delivering it to your home; it is in perfect working condition
Complete characteristics
307 XT PREMIUM HDI 2L 110HP DIESEL
5 DOORS
METALLIC GREY
80000 KM
(March 2003)
ALL OPTIONS: ABS, ESP, power steering, side airbags, cruise control, automatic air conditioning, electric windows front and rear, central locking, radio and 6 CD changer on the front with steering wheel controls, automatic headlights, automatic rain sensor, front armrests and central armrest in the back, 1 drawer under the passenger seat.
Technical Control OK
6 MONTH WARRANTY
As for the paperwork, do not worry because when the vehicle is presented to you and you have given your agreement to purchase it after trying it, you will proceed to the signing of the sale documents that I have pre-established before my departure.
To facilitate the transaction, the transporter will present you with the following documents:
- The vehicle registration certificate crossed out and signed (by myself)
- The 3 parts of the cession certificate with the sections concerning me filled out and signed by myself
- The non-pledge certificate corresponding
- The duplicate of the keys
- The valid technical control
- The up-to-date maintenance book
- All the invoices as support....
No repairs to be done, perfectly drivable. I'm letting it go for €3500 including tax, payable in cash upon receipt, and if my car no longer suits you, the transporter would take it back, which I highly doubt anyway. After receiving the additional photos of my car, please contact me if you are really interested or send me your contact details.
If you agree to purchase my car, there is no problem because the transporter is available every day from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. to deliver it to your home. Once your address is given, I will pass it on to the transporter who will be ready to deliver according to your availability. Even tomorrow if you want. Given my absence, I inform you that the transporter is in possession of all the papers, a copy of my ID and my power of attorney for the sales certificate established before my departure and certified by the prefecture.
NO PROBLEMS AND NO OTHER FEES TO EXPECT
I can be reached at 002 29 98 18 53 32 or 002 29 96 39 33 38.
Hello,
Here’s something I wasn’t familiar with; not a seller but a buyer for my car:
Hello to you, I acknowledge receipt of your response and I agree to buy it, but first I must tell you that I am currently abroad (Abidjan) for work reasons. I am ready to send you the money to reserve it for me since I will be returning soon in a month, and I will come to your address to pick up the item. If you agree with me, please let me know because for the payment
I will send you an instant cash transfer so you can pick it up in cash at your post office
to ensure it is reserved for me.
I need the following:
-your full address.
-full name.
-landline and mobile numbers.
-fixed price
But I’m counting on your good faith since you will have the money well before the pickup
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Mr. Nolet
00225 60 88 37 52
So, what could they really do with my address?
Here’s something I wasn’t familiar with; not a seller but a buyer for my car:
Hello to you, I acknowledge receipt of your response and I agree to buy it, but first I must tell you that I am currently abroad (Abidjan) for work reasons. I am ready to send you the money to reserve it for me since I will be returning soon in a month, and I will come to your address to pick up the item. If you agree with me, please let me know because for the payment
I will send you an instant cash transfer so you can pick it up in cash at your post office
to ensure it is reserved for me.
I need the following:
-your full address.
-full name.
-landline and mobile numbers.
-fixed price
But I’m counting on your good faith since you will have the money well before the pickup
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Mr. Nolet
00225 60 88 37 52
So, what could they really do with my address?
Here it is, my turn, I almost fell victim to an identical scam
No offers on Le Bon Coin, but on my side, I posted an ad saying that I was looking for a space, response:
Mr. Nestor Leclair (nestorleclair@yahoo.fr), 2002 Privilege space, 102,000 km, technical control done in November 2009, maintenance booklet available, all options 1500 euros firm price!!!
I am sending you a copy of the email
Good evening
I sincerely apologize for the delay in my response
but it's because I was on a trip and I didn't have internet access where I went
so if you are still interested please let me know because I have already registered you and you will be delivered on WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 8, 2009 AT 5 PM
but first you will need to do the URGENT CASH MANDATE I told you about and keep the receipt and as soon as the delivery person arrives with the car after the inspection, you give him the receipt and he will have you sign the papers
so if this suits you please reply and I will send you the details of where the payment of 1500€ will be made
thank you for keeping me informed
Following this, I took a look at this site, and I saw your email, I hope no one will ever be taken in again. He called me tonight with a number that I am giving you
00.22.99.82.30.98.9
There you go, good luck to all
No offers on Le Bon Coin, but on my side, I posted an ad saying that I was looking for a space, response:
Mr. Nestor Leclair (nestorleclair@yahoo.fr), 2002 Privilege space, 102,000 km, technical control done in November 2009, maintenance booklet available, all options 1500 euros firm price!!!
I am sending you a copy of the email
Good evening
I sincerely apologize for the delay in my response
but it's because I was on a trip and I didn't have internet access where I went
so if you are still interested please let me know because I have already registered you and you will be delivered on WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 8, 2009 AT 5 PM
but first you will need to do the URGENT CASH MANDATE I told you about and keep the receipt and as soon as the delivery person arrives with the car after the inspection, you give him the receipt and he will have you sign the papers
so if this suits you please reply and I will send you the details of where the payment of 1500€ will be made
thank you for keeping me informed
Following this, I took a look at this site, and I saw your email, I hope no one will ever be taken in again. He called me tonight with a number that I am giving you
00.22.99.82.30.98.9
There you go, good luck to all
The scam is still ongoing.
This time it's Jean Claude THIODET 002 29 98 18 53 62 or 002 29 96 39 33 38, whom I contacted by phone, and he is in BENIN or a neighboring country selling me a 2006 C4 HDI for €4500.
I'll spare you the nonsense, the empty promises, the photos, and the emails... all intended to lure in the client.
The car is supposedly in Nantes, and he claimed that his transporter, whom he contacted, could deliver it to me as early as tomorrow to ..... in the 974xx ... in front of the gendarmerie or the prefecture if I didn't trust him.
The catch is that there’s an ocean to cross!!!
I confirm that the trap closes when you provide a number, for example to track the cash mandate; you enter the number on a fake site.
The Post Office and the Postal Bank confirm that there is no tracking for the cash mandate.
The sales ad is on other sites. We are lured in by the low price for a relatively recent vehicle with low mileage.
Let’s be clear.... greed will be our downfall. Fortunately, communication and acts of solidarity save us!!
This time it's Jean Claude THIODET 002 29 98 18 53 62 or 002 29 96 39 33 38, whom I contacted by phone, and he is in BENIN or a neighboring country selling me a 2006 C4 HDI for €4500.
I'll spare you the nonsense, the empty promises, the photos, and the emails... all intended to lure in the client.
The car is supposedly in Nantes, and he claimed that his transporter, whom he contacted, could deliver it to me as early as tomorrow to ..... in the 974xx ... in front of the gendarmerie or the prefecture if I didn't trust him.
The catch is that there’s an ocean to cross!!!
I confirm that the trap closes when you provide a number, for example to track the cash mandate; you enter the number on a fake site.
The Post Office and the Postal Bank confirm that there is no tracking for the cash mandate.
The sales ad is on other sites. We are lured in by the low price for a relatively recent vehicle with low mileage.
Let’s be clear.... greed will be our downfall. Fortunately, communication and acts of solidarity save us!!
Article to read regarding cash mandate scams: https://www.paris-normandie.fr/
One must file a complaint and report that the SRPJ of Rouen has investigated.
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PLEASE MENTION THE EMAIL ADDRESSES AND PHONE NUMBERS OF THESE SCAMMERS
We will make good use of them (blacklists)
One must file a complaint and report that the SRPJ of Rouen has investigated.
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PLEASE MENTION THE EMAIL ADDRESSES AND PHONE NUMBERS OF THESE SCAMMERS
We will make good use of them (blacklists)
HELLO;
WHY CASH MANDATES OR WESTERN UNIONS?
BECAUSE THESE THIEVES HAVE FOUND A TRICK BY ASKING YOU TO GO TO FAKE SITES OF THE POST OFFICE JUST FOR VERIFICATION BEFORE DELIVERY (guarantee?) AND THERE THEY COLLECT THE CODES.
THESE SITES ARE CREATED FOR FREE ON, www.ulimit, mediadots, tipdots ...etc
CONCERNING WESTERNS.U, WITHDRAWAL CAN BE DONE JUST WITH THE NAME OF THE SENDER, REASON WHY YOUR DETAILS ARE REQUESTED AT THE START.
BE VIGILANT, NEVER ACCEPT THIS TYPE OF PAYMENT.
THANK YOU
WHY CASH MANDATES OR WESTERN UNIONS?
BECAUSE THESE THIEVES HAVE FOUND A TRICK BY ASKING YOU TO GO TO FAKE SITES OF THE POST OFFICE JUST FOR VERIFICATION BEFORE DELIVERY (guarantee?) AND THERE THEY COLLECT THE CODES.
THESE SITES ARE CREATED FOR FREE ON, www.ulimit, mediadots, tipdots ...etc
CONCERNING WESTERNS.U, WITHDRAWAL CAN BE DONE JUST WITH THE NAME OF THE SENDER, REASON WHY YOUR DETAILS ARE REQUESTED AT THE START.
BE VIGILANT, NEVER ACCEPT THIS TYPE OF PAYMENT.
THANK YOU
Here I would like to report a recent SCAM that I almost fell victim to,
and it is thanks to this kind of forum that I stopped everything and fortunately did not make any transfer. So first of all, THANK YOU to everyone and all the testimonies you leave. Without you, I would have been fooled like a BEGINNER and I am even ashamed to have almost fallen for it: he still has my personal information and my ID. WHAT A FOOL I AM.
THE SCAM:
- Patrol gr 3.2 TD 4500€ (IN ADDITION I KNEW that the 3.2 did not exist but I thought it must be a mistake on his part, not a big deal it must be 2.8) the ad is circulating on several sites: paru vendu..le bon coin...and others that I forget.
(However, it is actually for sale on patrol-gr.net for a minimum of 7500€ and I talked to the real owner on the phone (very nice by the way) but he is powerless in the face of such actions)
- The scammer operated from the United Kingdom:
- Under the name: DORIAN BROOKE email: doverala@gmx.com phone: 00(44)7879308864
(excuses: driving on the left, bought 2 months ago in Strasbourg at his own company’s auction...)
- The shipment would be handled by: daecher-logistics.com (if you see the site, it's crazy I almost got duped)
- The money was supposed to be transferred to: BARCLAY LONDON (I even have the bank details) so it is surely one of their many ghost accounts like everything else by the way "GHOST"
- I thought: HMM BARCLAY is still well-known plus it's not WESTERN UNION
So here it is, I hope that through this message I can help prevent the worst for some.
Especially since I was 2 clicks away from the transfer (what a GULLIBLE person) I still thought at one point "something is wrong, this is moving too fast" indeed they respond to you practically instantly by email and on the phone PLEASE and especially too good to be TRUE, I live in CORSICA and they were going to deliver with a platform in my little lost village...lol...!
I tried to contact him again but you can imagine he has vanished into thin air...
Please be vigilant and thank you again to everyone for sharing your testimonies.
P.S.: He may use my identity to try to trap someone else
My name is Occhioni Daniel
and it is thanks to this kind of forum that I stopped everything and fortunately did not make any transfer. So first of all, THANK YOU to everyone and all the testimonies you leave. Without you, I would have been fooled like a BEGINNER and I am even ashamed to have almost fallen for it: he still has my personal information and my ID. WHAT A FOOL I AM.
THE SCAM:
- Patrol gr 3.2 TD 4500€ (IN ADDITION I KNEW that the 3.2 did not exist but I thought it must be a mistake on his part, not a big deal it must be 2.8) the ad is circulating on several sites: paru vendu..le bon coin...and others that I forget.
(However, it is actually for sale on patrol-gr.net for a minimum of 7500€ and I talked to the real owner on the phone (very nice by the way) but he is powerless in the face of such actions)
- The scammer operated from the United Kingdom:
- Under the name: DORIAN BROOKE email: doverala@gmx.com phone: 00(44)7879308864
(excuses: driving on the left, bought 2 months ago in Strasbourg at his own company’s auction...)
- The shipment would be handled by: daecher-logistics.com (if you see the site, it's crazy I almost got duped)
- The money was supposed to be transferred to: BARCLAY LONDON (I even have the bank details) so it is surely one of their many ghost accounts like everything else by the way "GHOST"
- I thought: HMM BARCLAY is still well-known plus it's not WESTERN UNION
So here it is, I hope that through this message I can help prevent the worst for some.
Especially since I was 2 clicks away from the transfer (what a GULLIBLE person) I still thought at one point "something is wrong, this is moving too fast" indeed they respond to you practically instantly by email and on the phone PLEASE and especially too good to be TRUE, I live in CORSICA and they were going to deliver with a platform in my little lost village...lol...!
I tried to contact him again but you can imagine he has vanished into thin air...
Please be vigilant and thank you again to everyone for sharing your testimonies.
P.S.: He may use my identity to try to trap someone else
My name is Occhioni Daniel
Good evening everyone!
Currently I am looking for a car and like everyone else, in good condition and with low mileage. So I'm going to the topannonces website. I found some great ads like:
- Peugeot 307 -> 27,000 km -> €3,400 (the problem is that Cédric Chenavas is in the UK with his car, and the transaction will take place via europa-escrow)
- Peugeot 207 -> 100,500 km -> €2,000 (Raphael Bove lost his wife, this car reminds him of bad memories, he went on vacation and payment is to be made in cash through a carrier)
- Peugeot 206 -> 101,200 km -> €1,600 (Régis Roux, math professor at the university, his administration has decided to transfer him abroad, he wanted to take his car with him, but the airport fees were too high, this car is with a carrier that he cannot meet because he has been robbed several times)
Of course, I didn't fall for it, but I continue to search...
Currently, I am in contact with someone selling their Clio III -> 88,000 km -> €3,000, they are selling it because they are disabled. Like all the other ads, it goes through a delivery/transport service. They are asking for my address [etc...], if the car doesn’t suit me, apparently I won't have any costs, if it suits me I will have to send them the money urgently by cash mandate.
Excerpt from their email:
I understand you and it’s normal to see something before buying it, and if I believe correctly I'm not asking you to pay me in advance but when you have the car at your place and all the papers are in your name but what I am asking of you is your address so that the delivery person can contact you.
I’m not sure if I should trust them, on one hand because the car could be stolen, and on the other hand the cash mandate scares me, I would feel more secure with a bank check.
What do you think?
In any case, thank you very much, as this forum is really very clear!
Have a good evening ;)
Currently I am looking for a car and like everyone else, in good condition and with low mileage. So I'm going to the topannonces website. I found some great ads like:
- Peugeot 307 -> 27,000 km -> €3,400 (the problem is that Cédric Chenavas is in the UK with his car, and the transaction will take place via europa-escrow)
- Peugeot 207 -> 100,500 km -> €2,000 (Raphael Bove lost his wife, this car reminds him of bad memories, he went on vacation and payment is to be made in cash through a carrier)
- Peugeot 206 -> 101,200 km -> €1,600 (Régis Roux, math professor at the university, his administration has decided to transfer him abroad, he wanted to take his car with him, but the airport fees were too high, this car is with a carrier that he cannot meet because he has been robbed several times)
Of course, I didn't fall for it, but I continue to search...
Currently, I am in contact with someone selling their Clio III -> 88,000 km -> €3,000, they are selling it because they are disabled. Like all the other ads, it goes through a delivery/transport service. They are asking for my address [etc...], if the car doesn’t suit me, apparently I won't have any costs, if it suits me I will have to send them the money urgently by cash mandate.
Excerpt from their email:
I understand you and it’s normal to see something before buying it, and if I believe correctly I'm not asking you to pay me in advance but when you have the car at your place and all the papers are in your name but what I am asking of you is your address so that the delivery person can contact you.
I’m not sure if I should trust them, on one hand because the car could be stolen, and on the other hand the cash mandate scares me, I would feel more secure with a bank check.
What do you think?
In any case, thank you very much, as this forum is really very clear!
Have a good evening ;)
Hello,
You absolutely need to file a complaint with the gendarmerie or the police; bring them all the messages you may have had with them, and on your side, gather all the information you can have. I did all that; they were found near Rouen, now I'm waiting, I hope to recover the money but ....... you can't be in a hurry. You always need to file a complaint, the more you do, the better it will be! Stay strong.
You absolutely need to file a complaint with the gendarmerie or the police; bring them all the messages you may have had with them, and on your side, gather all the information you can have. I did all that; they were found near Rouen, now I'm waiting, I hope to recover the money but ....... you can't be in a hurry. You always need to file a complaint, the more you do, the better it will be! Stay strong.
Max,
I think your scammer is in West Africa. He must have given you a phone number starting with 0044 70 xxx xxx (roaming number... meaning call forwarding).
Yes, of course, you need to file a complaint. It's the only way we have to make these scams known.
Also, give us everything you have on this guy: email address, phone number, and even the emails you received, the site where you found the ad...
That way, he will be easily traceable on search engines.
Sorry for you, but you were indeed naive to send the money without having the car...
Isis
I think your scammer is in West Africa. He must have given you a phone number starting with 0044 70 xxx xxx (roaming number... meaning call forwarding).
Yes, of course, you need to file a complaint. It's the only way we have to make these scams known.
Also, give us everything you have on this guy: email address, phone number, and even the emails you received, the site where you found the ad...
That way, he will be easily traceable on search engines.
Sorry for you, but you were indeed naive to send the money without having the car...
Isis
Still a beautiful scam from what I see, these crooks never stop... don’t fall for it, just make them walk to drive them a little crazy. Good luck to you.
Hello, scams on the internet have been multiplying lately. Indeed, scammers are well protected abroad to avoid issues with French justice, but here lies the catch: their IP address can lead back to them. However, it is very rare for our services to trace these scammers since very few people file complaints, and those who do have little interest because online cases are often dismissed by law enforcement due to lack of time and motivation.
However, it remains that if an individual finds a fraudulent ad or if it is a pure scam, they can report it online! It’s quick and efficient: internet-signalement.gouv.fr
In this case, a judicial investigation will be conducted by the national gendarmerie, the judicial police, customs, and INTERPOL for cases abroad.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING YOUR TIME TO VISIT THIS MINISTRY SITE TO REPORT THESE SCAMS!
SINCERELY
captain of gendarmerie in communication
75 000 PARIS FRANCE
NATIONAL GENDARMERIE
However, it remains that if an individual finds a fraudulent ad or if it is a pure scam, they can report it online! It’s quick and efficient: internet-signalement.gouv.fr
In this case, a judicial investigation will be conducted by the national gendarmerie, the judicial police, customs, and INTERPOL for cases abroad.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING YOUR TIME TO VISIT THIS MINISTRY SITE TO REPORT THESE SCAMS!
SINCERELY
captain of gendarmerie in communication
75 000 PARIS FRANCE
NATIONAL GENDARMERIE
Hello,
there's exactly the same scam for apartments; my partner and I were looking for an apartment for rent in Brest.
A superb 110 m2 apartment, fireplace, shower and bathtub, etc... the best, all for a monthly rent of €500 including charges.
The same gibberish, I'm not in France but in England for work for at least 9 years.
So we ask him how to proceed for a visit, etc...
He replies, "Well, it's simple, you make an urgent cash mandate of €500 so that I know you will take the apartment, and you will give me the secret number once I'm in front of you!"
So I refused to do it, and since then, I've heard nothing; he removed his ad right after we first contacted him.
This Mr. is apparently named Coland Jeremy, so be wary of Le Bon Coin.
With that, good luck to you; be careful, we don't know who is hiding behind their computer...
there's exactly the same scam for apartments; my partner and I were looking for an apartment for rent in Brest.
A superb 110 m2 apartment, fireplace, shower and bathtub, etc... the best, all for a monthly rent of €500 including charges.
The same gibberish, I'm not in France but in England for work for at least 9 years.
So we ask him how to proceed for a visit, etc...
He replies, "Well, it's simple, you make an urgent cash mandate of €500 so that I know you will take the apartment, and you will give me the secret number once I'm in front of you!"
So I refused to do it, and since then, I've heard nothing; he removed his ad right after we first contacted him.
This Mr. is apparently named Coland Jeremy, so be wary of Le Bon Coin.
With that, good luck to you; be careful, we don't know who is hiding behind their computer...
Hello,
I just had exactly the same story with a Piaggio X8 scooter for €800 that had run 4600 km, anyway, a very good deal!!
I replied, and the guy responded the same thing, that he is not in France and that his brother (Fabien Jurie Lavergne) will take care of the delivery.
I asked him if I could make a bank cheque, and he said no. So I made a cash mandate of 800 euros, scanned the mandate while hiding the number and sent it to him!
He sent me an email with a link to check that my cash mandate is indeed online: http://www.laposte-mandats-services.tk. When you go to this site, you see a fake La Poste site since no link works except for the one to fill in the cash mandate information.
The recipient's details are, coincidentally, Mrs. Nicole Lavergne again (his wife) while he goes by David Gourcuff!! Odd.
Anyway, I did not fill in the information on this site and went to the post office to check if this site was actually owned by them and if it was legal!! They had no knowledge of this site at all, so I quickly got my money back!!
At 4:55 PM (5 minutes before delivery) he called me to tell me to fill out the document online, and I replied that I would not do it because this site is fraudulent, he tried to sweet-talk me but it didn’t work and then the communication cut off.
The number he called me from: +22998237406!
So if you come across this person, don't get taken in!!
Adrien
I just had exactly the same story with a Piaggio X8 scooter for €800 that had run 4600 km, anyway, a very good deal!!
I replied, and the guy responded the same thing, that he is not in France and that his brother (Fabien Jurie Lavergne) will take care of the delivery.
I asked him if I could make a bank cheque, and he said no. So I made a cash mandate of 800 euros, scanned the mandate while hiding the number and sent it to him!
He sent me an email with a link to check that my cash mandate is indeed online: http://www.laposte-mandats-services.tk. When you go to this site, you see a fake La Poste site since no link works except for the one to fill in the cash mandate information.
The recipient's details are, coincidentally, Mrs. Nicole Lavergne again (his wife) while he goes by David Gourcuff!! Odd.
Anyway, I did not fill in the information on this site and went to the post office to check if this site was actually owned by them and if it was legal!! They had no knowledge of this site at all, so I quickly got my money back!!
At 4:55 PM (5 minutes before delivery) he called me to tell me to fill out the document online, and I replied that I would not do it because this site is fraudulent, he tried to sweet-talk me but it didn’t work and then the communication cut off.
The number he called me from: +22998237406!
So if you come across this person, don't get taken in!!
Adrien
Hello, I am currently corresponding with him by email and I'm leading him on (he must be disgusted!!!)
She is great, his famous Golf, look at the emails he sends: the first one:
Hello
I have just read your message and I would like to thank you for the interest you showed in my ad. The car is still available for €2000. Now I will provide you with some information about my car, it's a Golf 4 Tdi 100 Wembley in very good condition with 5 doors and a mileage of 102,000 km, registered in April 1997, Power 110 hp (DIN), has a manual transmission, non-smoker, from the year 1997, Diesel fuel with a maintenance booklet available and in metallic silver color with equipment including ABS, Driver Airbag, Passenger Airbag, Alarm, ESP, Alloy Wheels, Fog Lights, Electric Mirrors, Cassette Radio, Air Conditioning, Split-folding Rear Seat, Power Steering, Central Locking, Fabric Seats, Floor Mats, Electric Windows, Updated maintenance booklet, onboard computer, technical inspection okay and clean. I must also remind you that I am currently not in France but the car is in France, more specifically in Paris, and it will be delivered to your home by a courier without any delivery charge. The car is in perfect condition. If you are interested, the transporter will deliver it to your home.
Thank you for responding
And the second one:
Hello
Thank you for replying, therefore the delivery charges are on me in any city in France, and also from Belgium, and I have already settled all of that before this sudden relocation so there is no problem, you will need to send me your complete home address for the delivery as well as your landline and mobile phone numbers so that I can contact the transporter this evening to inform him of your delivery for tomorrow afternoon or in the evening if that is not a problem for you. I will also leave you his number so that you can contact him as well 06 - 75 - 71 - 99 - 58 but regarding the documents (registration card, deed of sale, technical control, certificate of non-pledge, and all original purchase invoices, of course) I also think that I have already settled all of that which means that I have already crossed out and signed the registration card and for the deed of sale, I have already signed it, it is only you who will need to put your signature in case of conclusion of the transaction all this in the presence of the transporter. For the payment, this will be done via urgent cash mandate to the address of the transporter. How will this go? You will try according to the transporter to do the urgent cash mandate before his arrival but it is of course after the delivery, after you have tried the car and finally after you have signed all the papers that you will give him the receipt of your executed mandate. I will leave you my personal phone number 0022 997 121 262.
Thank you for responding
WARNING ABOUT SCAM !!!!!
She is great, his famous Golf, look at the emails he sends: the first one:
Hello
I have just read your message and I would like to thank you for the interest you showed in my ad. The car is still available for €2000. Now I will provide you with some information about my car, it's a Golf 4 Tdi 100 Wembley in very good condition with 5 doors and a mileage of 102,000 km, registered in April 1997, Power 110 hp (DIN), has a manual transmission, non-smoker, from the year 1997, Diesel fuel with a maintenance booklet available and in metallic silver color with equipment including ABS, Driver Airbag, Passenger Airbag, Alarm, ESP, Alloy Wheels, Fog Lights, Electric Mirrors, Cassette Radio, Air Conditioning, Split-folding Rear Seat, Power Steering, Central Locking, Fabric Seats, Floor Mats, Electric Windows, Updated maintenance booklet, onboard computer, technical inspection okay and clean. I must also remind you that I am currently not in France but the car is in France, more specifically in Paris, and it will be delivered to your home by a courier without any delivery charge. The car is in perfect condition. If you are interested, the transporter will deliver it to your home.
Thank you for responding
And the second one:
Hello
Thank you for replying, therefore the delivery charges are on me in any city in France, and also from Belgium, and I have already settled all of that before this sudden relocation so there is no problem, you will need to send me your complete home address for the delivery as well as your landline and mobile phone numbers so that I can contact the transporter this evening to inform him of your delivery for tomorrow afternoon or in the evening if that is not a problem for you. I will also leave you his number so that you can contact him as well 06 - 75 - 71 - 99 - 58 but regarding the documents (registration card, deed of sale, technical control, certificate of non-pledge, and all original purchase invoices, of course) I also think that I have already settled all of that which means that I have already crossed out and signed the registration card and for the deed of sale, I have already signed it, it is only you who will need to put your signature in case of conclusion of the transaction all this in the presence of the transporter. For the payment, this will be done via urgent cash mandate to the address of the transporter. How will this go? You will try according to the transporter to do the urgent cash mandate before his arrival but it is of course after the delivery, after you have tried the car and finally after you have signed all the papers that you will give him the receipt of your executed mandate. I will leave you my personal phone number 0022 997 121 262.
Thank you for responding
WARNING ABOUT SCAM !!!!!
Hello,
a presumed wine seller on the site leboncoin.fr just tried to scam me out of 1000 euros with an URGENT CASH MANDATE from the post office. He then asked me to fill out a form on a fake site of the postal bank. BE VERY CAREFUL WITH ADS ON leboncoin.fr, it is a den of scammers, the site absolutely controls nothing.
So a golden rule if you buy on the Internet, NO CASH MANDATE, NO WESTERN UNION, and no transactions on the site leboncoin.fr which should be called scammer_paradise.fr unless you carry out the transaction with the article handed over in person.
a presumed wine seller on the site leboncoin.fr just tried to scam me out of 1000 euros with an URGENT CASH MANDATE from the post office. He then asked me to fill out a form on a fake site of the postal bank. BE VERY CAREFUL WITH ADS ON leboncoin.fr, it is a den of scammers, the site absolutely controls nothing.
So a golden rule if you buy on the Internet, NO CASH MANDATE, NO WESTERN UNION, and no transactions on the site leboncoin.fr which should be called scammer_paradise.fr unless you carry out the transaction with the article handed over in person.
Thank you for signing this petition
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HELLO,
MY BROTHER IS LOOKING FOR A 7-SEATER VEHICLE AND SAW A FIAT ULYSSE 2.1 TD IN TOULON (83) ON THE SITE LEBONCOIN.FR. LIVING IN THE AREA, I SUGGESTED HE GO SEE THE VEHICLE FOR HIM AND THEREFORE SENT AN EMAIL TO THIS PERSON (IRENE LACROUTE).
A MONTH LATER, HERE IS THE EMAIL I RECEIVED:
Hello
I acknowledge receipt of your email, please excuse me for the delay as I am really unwell due to my health
My car is still available and has no problems, it has never been in any accidents and is fully functional; you will have time to check everything.
Currently, I am in the private hospital La Louvière - Lille
my health condition is not good at all and I need funding, which is why I would like to sell it quickly.
The car is in a private transport facility with a courier who will take care of the delivery to your home address in case you are interested and ready to take it. My price is indeed 1500€
Regarding the updating of documents, registration certificate, non-gage certificate, and the CT certificate which is up to date, as well as the sales agreement with all the invoices, which I have pre-signed before my hospitalization.
You can call a mechanic on the day of delivery to verify the condition of the car, you can also go to a prefecture to check the vehicle documents
You have no costs to anticipate
If you are interested, please start by giving me the following information so that I can pass it on to the carrier who will ensure delivery to your home, as he has already been paid for this:
Your home address in the following order:
LAST NAME .............................. ..........................
FIRST NAME ................................. ..................
COUNTRY .............................. ...............
CITY OR VILLAGE ..................................
ZIP CODE ..............................
Mobile phone number:....................
Landline number:..... .......................
day of delivery..................................
PS: Payment will be made on delivery, meaning upon receipt of the vehicle by postal mandate on the day of delivery, PHOTOS ON REQUEST.
Thank you for quickly sending me this information, as the sale is urgent for me. YOU CAN CONTACT THE CARRIER AT 0977195623 FOR MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE SALE. PS: I do not wish to make an exchange; the documents for my car are available
I AM REACHABLE by email. Looking forward to hearing from you again
Please contact me to confirm the delivery
thank you
TODAY I TRIED TO CALL THE CARRIER AND THE NUMBER IS NOT ASSIGNED.
I THEREFORE SENT ANOTHER EMAIL TO THIS PERSON ASKING IF SHE MIGHT HAVE MADE A MISTAKE WITH THE NUMBER.
IN RESPONSE, SHE GAVE ME ANOTHER NUMBER TO CONTACT HER AT 0022996551214.
I SENT HER AN EMAIL ASKING HER TO PROVIDE ME WITH THE VEHICLE INFORMATION SO THAT I COULD SEE THE NON-GAGE CERTIFICATE ONLINE AND HAVE THE ADDRESS IN
THE VAR WHERE I CAN SEE THE VEHICLE BEFORE ANY TRANSACTION.
FINDING THIS EMAIL STRANGE, I DID SOME RESEARCH ON THE INTERNET AND CAME ACROSS YOUR SITE.
APPARENTLY, THIS AD FALLS WITHIN YOUR SCAM PROFILE!!!.
THIS AD IS STILL AVAILABLE ON LEBONCOIN.FR, SO I AM REPORTING IT.
MY BROTHER IS LOOKING FOR A 7-SEATER VEHICLE AND SAW A FIAT ULYSSE 2.1 TD IN TOULON (83) ON THE SITE LEBONCOIN.FR. LIVING IN THE AREA, I SUGGESTED HE GO SEE THE VEHICLE FOR HIM AND THEREFORE SENT AN EMAIL TO THIS PERSON (IRENE LACROUTE).
A MONTH LATER, HERE IS THE EMAIL I RECEIVED:
Hello
I acknowledge receipt of your email, please excuse me for the delay as I am really unwell due to my health
My car is still available and has no problems, it has never been in any accidents and is fully functional; you will have time to check everything.
Currently, I am in the private hospital La Louvière - Lille
my health condition is not good at all and I need funding, which is why I would like to sell it quickly.
The car is in a private transport facility with a courier who will take care of the delivery to your home address in case you are interested and ready to take it. My price is indeed 1500€
Regarding the updating of documents, registration certificate, non-gage certificate, and the CT certificate which is up to date, as well as the sales agreement with all the invoices, which I have pre-signed before my hospitalization.
You can call a mechanic on the day of delivery to verify the condition of the car, you can also go to a prefecture to check the vehicle documents
You have no costs to anticipate
If you are interested, please start by giving me the following information so that I can pass it on to the carrier who will ensure delivery to your home, as he has already been paid for this:
Your home address in the following order:
LAST NAME .............................. ..........................
FIRST NAME ................................. ..................
COUNTRY .............................. ...............
CITY OR VILLAGE ..................................
ZIP CODE ..............................
Mobile phone number:....................
Landline number:..... .......................
day of delivery..................................
PS: Payment will be made on delivery, meaning upon receipt of the vehicle by postal mandate on the day of delivery, PHOTOS ON REQUEST.
Thank you for quickly sending me this information, as the sale is urgent for me. YOU CAN CONTACT THE CARRIER AT 0977195623 FOR MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE SALE. PS: I do not wish to make an exchange; the documents for my car are available
I AM REACHABLE by email. Looking forward to hearing from you again
Please contact me to confirm the delivery
thank you
TODAY I TRIED TO CALL THE CARRIER AND THE NUMBER IS NOT ASSIGNED.
I THEREFORE SENT ANOTHER EMAIL TO THIS PERSON ASKING IF SHE MIGHT HAVE MADE A MISTAKE WITH THE NUMBER.
IN RESPONSE, SHE GAVE ME ANOTHER NUMBER TO CONTACT HER AT 0022996551214.
I SENT HER AN EMAIL ASKING HER TO PROVIDE ME WITH THE VEHICLE INFORMATION SO THAT I COULD SEE THE NON-GAGE CERTIFICATE ONLINE AND HAVE THE ADDRESS IN
THE VAR WHERE I CAN SEE THE VEHICLE BEFORE ANY TRANSACTION.
FINDING THIS EMAIL STRANGE, I DID SOME RESEARCH ON THE INTERNET AND CAME ACROSS YOUR SITE.
APPARENTLY, THIS AD FALLS WITHIN YOUR SCAM PROFILE!!!.
THIS AD IS STILL AVAILABLE ON LEBONCOIN.FR, SO I AM REPORTING IT.
Beware of England, which serves as a cover for West African scammers...
Be cautious of phone numbers +44 70 XXX XXX: these are numbers obtained from the Flextel site and redirect calls to the subscriber's mobile phone (in this case, West Africa)
These numbers can be obtained remotely, and the fortunate callers pay a premium financing the Service...
Be cautious of phone numbers +44 70 XXX XXX: these are numbers obtained from the Flextel site and redirect calls to the subscriber's mobile phone (in this case, West Africa)
These numbers can be obtained remotely, and the fortunate callers pay a premium financing the Service...
After consulting camper van ads, I came across a very tempting advertisement. I wanted to know more, so I sent an email to the indicated address. After exchanging 3 emails, they offered me to pay by cash mandate. Then I went to this forum which only confirmed my doubts. Of course, I will not follow up. Chausson Flash 10 camper van, beware of scams.
Personally, I make good deals on leboncoin. Just that I’m careful...
leboncoin.fr is a hotspot for scammers, the site doesn't control anything at all
I find that a bit easy... A site can’t control everything (even though it has a duty to do its best to protect users). Why do scammers use this site? Simply because it’s free (of course, scammers don’t want to pay for anything...) So, simple solution, either we stop offering anything for free (but other sites will be used) or we just have to be careful. These sites (leboncoin, vivastreet, ebay, etc...) are aware that scams use their site and clearly state warnings. Take 2 minutes to read them instead of complaining that someone tried to steal from you. In all these stories, there are glaring common points: the mega super good deal. Waiting for a Golf IV at €2000, come on, that’s an exaggeration, it’s worth more than triple... Either the car is suspicious (stolen for example) or it doesn’t exist. The other common point is sending cash (money orders, western union, whatever). This should only be used for sending to close ones that you know. If you don’t know the person, forget that payment method. And you only pay after you’ve tried the vehicle and checked the paperwork (to see if it’s not encumbered or stolen).
On the other hand, the story about the €20 is nice. At least, the scammer had a hard time, paying for phone calls and their internet café.
leboncoin.fr is a hotspot for scammers, the site doesn't control anything at all
I find that a bit easy... A site can’t control everything (even though it has a duty to do its best to protect users). Why do scammers use this site? Simply because it’s free (of course, scammers don’t want to pay for anything...) So, simple solution, either we stop offering anything for free (but other sites will be used) or we just have to be careful. These sites (leboncoin, vivastreet, ebay, etc...) are aware that scams use their site and clearly state warnings. Take 2 minutes to read them instead of complaining that someone tried to steal from you. In all these stories, there are glaring common points: the mega super good deal. Waiting for a Golf IV at €2000, come on, that’s an exaggeration, it’s worth more than triple... Either the car is suspicious (stolen for example) or it doesn’t exist. The other common point is sending cash (money orders, western union, whatever). This should only be used for sending to close ones that you know. If you don’t know the person, forget that payment method. And you only pay after you’ve tried the vehicle and checked the paperwork (to see if it’s not encumbered or stolen).
On the other hand, the story about the €20 is nice. At least, the scammer had a hard time, paying for phone calls and their internet café.
I noticed that none of these ads have a phone number. I'm also looking for a vehicle, and for a few days now, I've been receiving the same messages. All these people are either sick, on vacation, or living abroad, and all these vehicles are priced interestingly—actually, many good deals smell like a scam. Good luck to everyone.
If charging for ads can keep scammers away, then they should be charged; that would be the least they could do. I hope leboncoin.fr will do this or disappear.
Well, don't use it if it doesn't suit you...
Just be careful... Oh dear, you always have to be led by the hand when knowing a few simple basic rules can prevent many inconveniences. I do plenty of business without a problem. If you encounter an idiot, just move on instead of hoping for a car that’s three times cheaper than its value...
And charging fees does limit this phenomenon a bit, but it bothers honest people more... Meetic charges, yet there are still scammers on it...
Just be careful... Oh dear, you always have to be led by the hand when knowing a few simple basic rules can prevent many inconveniences. I do plenty of business without a problem. If you encounter an idiot, just move on instead of hoping for a car that’s three times cheaper than its value...
And charging fees does limit this phenomenon a bit, but it bothers honest people more... Meetic charges, yet there are still scammers on it...
I have never looked for a car on leboncoin... I was scammed on ink cartridges and bottles of wine. These sellers provided me with fake identities, just enough to cash in the money. You can register on the site leboncoin.fr using the identity of other people, which is against the law. It's a great opportunity for scammers to find a site that allows them to do that. Either this site changes its rules or it will disappear. As for the site Meetic, which I have never had to visit, I don't see what connection it has with leboncoin and its product listings... let's compare what is comparable!
Meetic is for illustrating that even when paid, there are scammers (who come from Benin, Nigeria, or elsewhere). On any site, one can impersonate someone else. Technically, it is very difficult to verify if a person matches the registration. Now, you've been taken in; it's unfortunate, but you should have been more careful. There are techniques to secure transactions (insurance like PayPal, or recognized third-party payers, cash on delivery, etc.). Even though there is no zero risk, it helps to avoid inconveniences. What you are questioning are free classifieds (eBay, Le Bon Coin, Vivastreet, etc.). So according to you, should we remove everything? The world would be better off? Just because the internet facilitates transactions doesn't mean we should forget basic security rules. "Don't send cash to strangers" seems simple, but many people fall for it. So, if you are not satisfied, stop the person-to-person transactions and stay in the wonderful world of new products.
Paid sites are not more protected against scammers than free ones. I just posted and paid for an ad on Paru Vendu and Le Bon Coin to sell my car. I have three African buyers on Paru Vendu and one on Le Bon Coin! 4 scammers using the same methods already explained.
The important thing is not the site but to have a coherent approach as a buyer or seller! The internet doesn't change anything about gullibility...
The important thing is not the site but to have a coherent approach as a buyer or seller! The internet doesn't change anything about gullibility...
Hello
Leboncoin.fr and other similar sites are based on a simple idea:
a good deal is right around the corner!
To post or search for ads, click on the region of your choice and
find the good deal among over 3,000,000 ads.
So there's no need to look further than you can go see the good deal
and figure out how to get it
or find a transporter of your choice, not the seller's
There's no point in looking for a good deal in Brest (or worse, in Africa) if you live in Nice.
On sites where ads are paid for, there are far fewer scams, but they're not nonexistent
Recommended for searching for a car or camper van.
Leboncoin.fr and other similar sites are based on a simple idea:
a good deal is right around the corner!
To post or search for ads, click on the region of your choice and
find the good deal among over 3,000,000 ads.
So there's no need to look further than you can go see the good deal
and figure out how to get it
or find a transporter of your choice, not the seller's
There's no point in looking for a good deal in Brest (or worse, in Africa) if you live in Nice.
On sites where ads are paid for, there are far fewer scams, but they're not nonexistent
Recommended for searching for a car or camper van.
I cannot let you continue to make these remarks.
We know perfectly well that these scammers post their ads in French departments, claim to be French, living in the department corresponding to the ad, and are even capable of sending a real French ID card, albeit fraudulent.
It is only after that they announce they are in West Africa.
So yes, internet users are looking for ads in their region, yes the advertiser is indeed in their region, at least that’s what we see on leboncoin.fr which is filled with fraudulent ads, which in itself becomes organized gang fraud as long as these fraudulent ads continue to be validated without control by this site.
One word of command: STOP ALL PAYMENTS BY WESTERN UNION, MONEYGRAM, COINSTAR, or express cash orders or not.
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We know perfectly well that these scammers post their ads in French departments, claim to be French, living in the department corresponding to the ad, and are even capable of sending a real French ID card, albeit fraudulent.
It is only after that they announce they are in West Africa.
So yes, internet users are looking for ads in their region, yes the advertiser is indeed in their region, at least that’s what we see on leboncoin.fr which is filled with fraudulent ads, which in itself becomes organized gang fraud as long as these fraudulent ads continue to be validated without control by this site.
One word of command: STOP ALL PAYMENTS BY WESTERN UNION, MONEYGRAM, COINSTAR, or express cash orders or not.
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